What little I have read of President Donald Trump He isn't interested in being a King.
Ifeel like He wants to be a Dictator .

You should start by getting some help for your TDS.

If you think he's acting like a dictator, you must have missed most of the Biden Regime.

Does He know He was elected to Serve The People of the USA?

This is a question you should be asking the Democrats. They are the ones who have been acting like they are our rulers.

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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to jimmylogan <=-

jimmylogan wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

I think it elections that Donald wants to do away with.

I haven't found proof that he has a plan to eliminate elections
entirely. What is clear: he has stated he wants major changes
to how elections are run (for example, new citizenship proof
requirements, ending mail-in ballots, tighter controls).

The fact that he didn't respect the 2020 election results and incited
an insurrection to overturn the election was our first clue.

You're right that he didn't respect the 2020 results - but that's
not new in politics. We've had candidates dispute outcomes before
(think "hanging chads"), so it's not unique to him.


As for "inciting an insurrection," I'm not personally convinced
he intended for anything violent to happen. I wasn't there,
and none of us really know the mindset of every person who showed
up or what pushed them individually. That part is still debated
and may be for a long time.

Trump telling people before the 2024 election "vote for me and you'll
never have to vote again" was the second clue.

I took that the same way I did when he said it: campaign rhetoric.
Every candidate exaggerates during election season. He doesn't have
the power to end elections any more than any other president would.





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Re: Re: Our President doesn't
By: jimmylogan to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 20 2025 13:15:41

You're right that he didn't respect the 2020 results - but that's
not new in politics. We've had candidates dispute outcomes before
(think "hanging chads"), so it's not unique to him.

As for "inciting an insurrection," I'm not personally convinced
he intended for anything violent to happen. I wasn't there,
and none of us really know the mindset of every person who showed
up or what pushed them individually. That part is still debated
and may be for a long time.

He respected them as much as HRC did in 2016. While he was *much* more vocal about it, she did just as much to undermine the process by introducing the "collusion" boogey-man into the public mind.

The issue I have with him and 1/6 is real simple. It really doesn't matter what he told the crowd. The fact that he decided to hold a "loser's rally" on the day that the votes were being certified, in the same city, *and* supposedly (by his own admission) asked for more police because he thought it might get
violent, is more than enough for me. The fact that he continues to deny any culpability for what happened is just icing.

If he'd held his rally at Mara Lago and the violence in DC still happened, maybe it isn't his fault. If he'd dome *nothing* on that day, as some of his adivisors were suggesting he should do, maybe it isn't his fault. Holding a rally on the same day, in the same city -- something that even sore losers HRC and Gore didn't do -- makes it something he at the very least shares blame for. ---
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Re: Re: Our President doesn't
By: Dumas Walker to jimmylogan on Fri Nov 21 2025 09:26 am

The issue I have with him and 1/6 is real simple. It really doesn't
matter what he told the crowd.

it absolutely does matter what he told the crowd. and it's important what
he wasn't allowed to do when things got out of hand.

The fact that he decided to hold
a "loser's rally" on the day that the votes were being certified,
in the same city,

why wouldn't he hold it there? that's the best place to have it.

*and* supposedly (by his own admission) asked
for more police because he thought it might get violent, is more
than enough for me. The fact that he continues to deny any
culpability for what happened is just icing.

i guess you forgot about everything that was happening. people liked to
riot. antifa members were all over. one guy got 70k for a video he shot and
he was a big antifa guy. pretending to be a maga. they say there's no proof but there's video and photo proof. also fbi agents were in the crowd causing problems. trump's speeches were edited by the media.

democrats were playing dirty.

if trump wanted a insurrection he could have done it and done it well.
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Dumas Walker wrote to jimmylogan <=-

He respected them as much as HRC did in 2016. While he was *much* more vocal about it, she did just as much to undermine the process by introducing the "collusion" boogey-man into the public mind.

Yeah - glad we agree it's not just a "Trump thing." :-)

The issue I have with him and 1/6 is real simple. It really doesn't matter what he told the crowd. The fact that he decided to hold a "loser's rally" on the day that the votes were being certified, in the same city, *and* supposedly (by his own admission) asked for more
police because he thought it might get violent, is more than enough for me. The fact that he continues to deny any culpability for what
happened is just icing.

On the 1/6 point, I get what you're saying. I've never been, but I'd
think there's enough room in D.C. for different groups to hold rallies
at the same time. It might not have been the smartest move, but I don't
think that alone makes him automatically guilty. People still have to
be responsible for their own actions.

And who knows - maybe he really did think the Dems would bail out anyone arrested, like other cities. LOL

If he'd held his rally at Mara Lago and the violence in DC still
happened, maybe it isn't his fault. If he'd dome *nothing* on that
day, as some of his adivisors were suggesting he should do, maybe it
isn't his fault. Holding a rally on the same day, in the same city -- something that even sore losers HRC and Gore didn't do -- makes it something he at the very least shares blame for. ---

As for the timing and location: fair point. If he'd stayed at Mar-a-Lago
or done nothing that day, his level of blame would look different.
Holding a rally in the same city on the same day certainly looks bad,
and I can see why folks think he shares some blame for the
environment it created.

I can only say that I wouldn't have done it. I've avoided cities
where protests were planned - that['s just not something I want
to be around. :-)




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Re: Re: Our President doesn't
By: jimmylogan to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 20 2025 01:15 pm

You're right that he didn't respect the 2020 results - but that's
not new in politics. We've had candidates dispute outcomes before
(think "hanging chads"), so it's not unique to him.

As for "inciting an insurrection," I'm not personally convinced
he intended for anything violent to happen. I wasn't there,
and none of us really know the mindset of every person who showed
up or what pushed them individually. That part is still debated
and may be for a long time.

2020 is a weird case because the left spent all year burning down the streets, politicians were exercising open insubordination towards the Federal government, and when a small bunch of dudes assaulted the Capitol everybody was freaking about them because "domestic terrorists" and "OMG insurrection".

I mean, by that point you don't get to complain about insurrection because you are as much of an insurrector. Probably bigger.


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Re: Re: Our President doesn't
By: Arelor to jimmylogan on Wed Nov 26 2025 06:09 am

2020 is a weird case because the left spent all year burning down
the streets, politicians were exercising open insubordination
towards the Federal government, and when a small bunch of dudes
assaulted the Capitol everybody was freaking about them because
"domestic terrorists" and "OMG insurrection".

I mean, by that point you don't get to complain about insurrection
because you are as much of an insurrector. Probably bigger.

also at our jan 6th thing there was a lot of trouble makers that were batting for the other team and also fbi agents. i've seen some weird videos where i think it's either antifa or a gov agent trying to make people break laws or go further with what they were doing.
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jimmylogan wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

On the 1/6 point, I get what you're saying. I've never been, but I'd
think there's enough room in D.C. for different groups to hold rallies
at the same time. It might not have been the smartest move, but I don't think that alone makes him automatically guilty. People still have to
be responsible for their own actions.

On 1/6, Trump said, "I think right here, we're
going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our
brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going
to be cheering so much for some of them."

Before that, he'd said "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like
hell, you're not going to have a country anymore," he said.


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Re: Re: Our President doesn't
By: poindexter FORTRAN to jimmylogan on Wed Nov 26 2025 07:16 am

to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators
and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be
cheering so much for some of them."

Before that, he'd said "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight
like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore," he said.

so what?
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Re: Re: Our President doesn't
By: jimmylogan to Dumas Walker on Tue Nov 25 2025 20:37:23

I can only say that I wouldn't have done it. I've avoided cities
where protests were planned - that['s just not something I want
to be around. :-)

Indeed! I would also try avoiding them.
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