• Carry Pistols

    From Limawhiskey@VERT/FRUGALBB to All on Mon Dec 5 17:35:12 2022
    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my G19 Gen5 is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd mags and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for the G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    What is your carry of choice fellow DOVE Net users?

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Limawhiskey on Mon Dec 5 18:25:29 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiskey to All on Mon Dec 05 2022 05:35 pm

    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my G19 Gen5 is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd mags and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for the G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    I have an H&K VP9. I'll be honest, it's a bit heavy to carry, but with the giant meathooks I call hands, I fumble around with anything smaller.

    I had an alien holster for the VP9, but the thing fell apart on me.

    It's honestly been a few years since I've actually carried, mostly because I don't go anywhere.

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  • From Mickey@VERT/BADPOET to Limawhiskey on Mon Dec 5 20:12:37 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiskey to All on Mon Dec 05 2022 05:35 pm

    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my G19 Gen5 is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd mags and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for the G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    Up here in Canada, you can get life for carrying a photo of a handgun. So much more errrr... civilized down there.

    Mickey

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Limawhiskey on Tue Dec 6 13:21:28 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiskey to All on Mon Dec 05 2022 05:35 pm

    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my G19 G is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd mags and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for th G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    What is your carry of choice fellow DOVE Net users?

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    If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on a public forum, I would go with a Llama .38 revolver. I am tired of semi-autos because I see so many get stuck in the shooting range.

    This brings the question: how is people carrying single action semis these days? Do they holster it with a chambered round and the safety on?

    BTW I think a bowie knife is also a great carry if you are big enough to pack it. A regular person spends more time cutting and chopping things than shooting at stuff anyway. If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on a public forum, I'd carry a Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie in a custom sheath (because the one it comes with is lame).

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  • From Limawhiskey@VERT/CHOICE to Arelor on Wed Dec 7 10:44:11 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Arelor to Limawhiskey on Tue Dec 06 2022 01:21 pm

    In regards to single action semi autos, (such as my 1911) I carry one in the chamber, hammer back and on safe. Now, it is not an old 1911 so it also features a firing pin block as well. Some people are not comfortable with that, however, the gun will not go off unless I do the following

    1. Release the manual saftey
    2. Activate the grip saftey
    3. Pull the trigger

    Personaly in my experience and time as a cavalry scout in the US Army, it takes way to long to rack a slide when you need to draw and use/point that pistol quickly. Opinons and mileage for the same may vary...

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Limawhiskey on Wed Dec 7 13:51:25 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiskey to Arelor on Wed Dec 07 2022 10:44 am

    In regards to single action semi autos, (such as my 1911) I carry on
    will not go off unless I do the following

    1. Release the manual saftey
    2. Activate the grip saftey
    3. Pull the trigger


    That sounds safer than my .38. It has no safety. It has one of those firing-pin blockers designed to prevent it from going off if something hits the hammer accidentally, and that is it. Maybe the manufacturer thought making the trigger hard as heck counted as a safety measure.

    But hey, the guy that sold it to me warned me that it was only good for putting cattle reustlers on their knees and executing them point blank, because it is too junky for anything else. I guess I can't complain XD

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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Limawhiskey on Wed Dec 7 13:46:00 2022
    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my G19 Gen5 is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd mags and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for the G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    What is your carry of choice fellow DOVE Net users?

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    Kinda depends. I prefer a full-sized platform, my SW model 645 is my preferred. Same basic size as the 1911, but with DA/SA action, ambidextrous safety and a decocker when safety is engaged.

    Problem is, I'm a fairly big guy and while the 645 works well for me when I'm getting in and out of my Tahoe, if I'm driving my Grand Prix or Fusion, ingress and egress is a bit tighter, so I need to go with a smaller platform. On those days, I go with the Taurus PT-145, .45 ACP like the 645, but with a 10 round mag, so I carry only one spare rather than the two with the SW.

    And if I need more concealment than the PT-145 Pro offers, there's always the J-frame .38 or even a compact .380 LCP.

    Backup is LCP in a pocket holster....

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  • From IB Joe@VERT/JOESBBS to Limawhiskey on Wed Dec 7 19:00:00 2022
    On 05 Dec 2022, Limawhiskey said the following...

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    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my
    G19 Gen5 is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd mags and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for the G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    What is your carry of choice fellow DOVE Net users?
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    I use DA/SA hammer fire handguns for carry. I see that you use, at times, a 1911. The only reason I wouldn't carry a 1911 is that it's a single action trigger. You'd either have to carry it fully cocked or cock it before you need to use it.

    I will be getting a Beretta PX4 Storm. It comes in 3 sizes, full, compact and sub-compact. You can have one in the chamber and use the de-cocker to relax the hammer back on to the pistol. De-cocking the gun will make it less likely that you don't shoot your own cock while you carry it around.

    I've heard all the arguments about how striker fire guns are safe when they are holstered ... I just can't bring myself to carrying anything other than what I described above.

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  • From somedude@VERT/ABINARY to Limawhiskey on Thu Dec 8 01:06:00 2022
    A Smith & Wesson model 10 with either 2" or 4" barrel in an appendix holster. Whichever barrel length fits better for the day's plan gets the nod. As for the holster, I baked the kydex myself.

    While totally different than a single-action automatic, I lopped both hammer spurs off so they are double-action-only.

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  • From Limawhiksey@VERT/TIABBS to Arelor on Wed Dec 7 20:44:08 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Arelor to Limawhiskey on Wed Dec 07 2022 01:51 pm

    Arelor,

    Those double action revolver triggers, (particularly on snubs) can be stiff as the devil himself. I will say, something that goes bang is better than nothing. There are a lot of different loads in .38 and many can be handloaded with a kit that is less than $90. (It may be cheaper, my memory is lacking.)

    Take a look at some defensive loads in .38. It is a very adaptable caliber for what it is. I shoot it some in my Single Action Army revolver in .38 / .357. Hopefully, you never need it and it just weighs down the belt and sits on the bedstand.

    - Your American Friend, Limawhiskey

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Limawhiksey on Sun Dec 11 13:32:03 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiksey to Arelor on Wed Dec 07 2022 08:44 pm

    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Arelor to Limawhiskey on Wed Dec 07 2022 01:51 pm

    Arelor,

    Those double action revolver triggers, (particularly on snubs) can b less than $90. (It may be cheaper, my memory is lacking.)

    Take a look at some defensive loads in .38. It is a very adaptable c

    - Your American Friend, Limawhiskey

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    About half of the ammo I have around are paper cutters for target shooting because that is what stores around have. They are nice for the range because they don't kick that much, but I'd rather have something else if the Nazi Communists Martians come down one day and try to invade my house. I also have some regular ammo - aka. security guard ammo - and that is it.

    Handloading here is kind of restricted. You need to take a certification from the local Target Shooting gov-sanctioned club, but I dislike those guys enough that I' d rather tear a tooth off rather than pay them a penny if I don't have to. I am sure I could get a reloading kit anyway but I spend so little ammo I can't be bothered.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Mon Dec 12 13:35:00 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Arelor to Limawhiskey on Tue Dec 06 2022 01:21 pm

    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiskey to All on Mon Dec 05 2022 05:35 pm

    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my G1 is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd m and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    What is your carry of choice fellow DOVE Net users?

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    If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on a public forum, I would go with a Llama .38 revolver. I am tired of semi-autos because I see so many get stuck in the shooting range.

    This brings the question: how is people carrying single action semis these days? Do they holster it with a chambered round and the safety on?

    BTW I think a bowie knife is also a great carry if you are big enough to pac it. A regular person spends more time cutting and chopping things than shoot at stuff anyway. If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on a public forum, I'd carry a Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie in a custom sheat (because the one it comes with is lame).

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    Most modern firearms can be carried cocked and loaded. With pistols like the Glock and M&P, they have the two piece trigger that acts like a safety until
    it is properly pulled. When seconds count, cycling a slide will take too long .

    Regardless of double action or single action, a hammer can be pulled back as the pistol is removed from the holster. Same applies with the safety.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Mon Dec 12 13:53:00 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Arelor to Limawhiksey on Sun Dec 11 2022 01:32 pm

    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiksey to Arelor on Wed Dec 07 2022 08:44 pm

    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Arelor to Limawhiskey on Wed Dec 07 2022 01:51 pm

    Arelor,

    Those double action revolver triggers, (particularly on snubs) ca less than $90. (It may be cheaper, my memory is lacking.)

    Take a look at some defensive loads in .38. It is a very adaptabl

    - Your American Friend, Limawhiskey

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    About half of the ammo I have around are paper cutters for target shooting because that is what stores around have. They are nice for the range because they don't kick that much, but I'd rather have something else if the Nazi Communists Martians come down one day and try to invade my house. I also hav some regular ammo - aka. security guard ammo - and that is it.

    Handloading here is kind of restricted. You need to take a certification fro the local Target Shooting gov-sanctioned club, but I dislike those guys enou that I' d rather tear a tooth off rather than pay them a penny if I don't ha to. I am sure I could get a reloading kit anyway but I spend so little ammo can't be bothered.


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    Handloading is hobby that feeds another hobby, and doesn't save much money. You spend the same money, but you soot more with it. I run a couple single stage presses, but if I got into shooting competitively, I would have to inves t in a progressive press to keep up with empty brass to loaded ammo ratio. I am what you call a rainy day reloader. If it is too cold or wet outside,
    I'll be down in my basement sizing and trimming brass or loading cases.

    I only recommend reloading for those who are willing to make the time, since
    it is a hobby in itself.

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  • From Ragnar0k@VERT/THEEAGLE to Limawhiskey on Sun Dec 18 18:35:05 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiskey to All on Mon Dec 05 2022 17:35:12

    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my

    I carry a Berreta PX4 Storm .40 in a shoulder holster when it's cold and on my kidney when it's warm. I also carry a Springfield XDS 9mm on my ankle.

    I like to be prepared.


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  • From Nuke@VERT/NUKE to Limawhiskey on Fri Dec 30 16:36:18 2022
    Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Limawhiskey to All on Mon Dec 05 2022 17:35:12

    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my G19 G is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd mags and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for th G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    What is your carry of choice fellow DOVE Net users?

    I love my Kimber Ultra Carry II. Just fits like a glove. Close runner and my goto alternative is Sig Sauer P938.

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/FINALZON to Limawhiskey on Thu Jan 5 13:22:00 2023
    Limawhiskey wrote to All <=-

    Those of you that carry, what do you carry or prefer? I find my
    G19 Gen5 is comfortable, however, somtimes I will carry a 1911 platform with 8rd mags and one round chambered. Only issue I have is finding a good holster for the G19. I still debate putting a light on it though.

    What is your carry of choice fellow DOVE Net users?

    .40 Shield first gen

    wife carries a P365 XL w/Romeo Zero. Shoots GREAT, but is just a TOUCH
    small for my hand... Love the flat trigger though, and the red dot!

    If I ever invest in a replacement will likely be a Shield Plus. I do
    like sticking with .40, but much more 9mm (or .30SC) sounds good too...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/FINALZON to Arelor on Thu Jan 5 13:24:00 2023
    Arelor wrote to Limawhiskey <=-

    If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on
    a public forum, I would go with a Llama .38 revolver. I am tired of semi-autos because I see so many get stuck in the shooting range.

    Is it the airplane or the pilot? :-)

    This brings the question: how is people carrying single action semis
    these days? Do they holster it with a chambered round and the safety
    on?

    Mine is not a SA, but is a striker fired. It has NO manual safety, but
    there is a trigger safety. I carry it chambered and 'hot.'

    BTW I think a bowie knife is also a great carry if you are big enough
    to pack it. A regular person spends more time cutting and chopping
    things than shooting at stuff anyway. If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on a public forum, I'd carry a Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie in a custom sheath (because the one it comes with is lame).

    My backup is a tactical pen. I can carry it where a gun is not legal, and
    it makes for a great 'poker!'




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/FINALZON to Arelor on Thu Jan 5 13:25:00 2023
    Arelor wrote to Limawhiskey <=-

    That sounds safer than my .38. It has no safety. It has one of those firing-pin blockers designed to prevent it from going off if something hits the hammer accidentally, and that is it. Maybe the manufacturer thought making the trigger hard as heck counted as a safety measure.

    Like the police safety on the Glocks? :-)




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/FINALZON to Moondog on Thu Jan 5 13:28:00 2023
    Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-


    Handloading is hobby that feeds another hobby, and doesn't save much money. You spend the same money, but you soot more with it. I run a couple single stage presses, but if I got into shooting competitively,
    I would have to inves t in a progressive press to keep up with empty
    brass to loaded ammo ratio. I am what you call a rainy day reloader.
    If it is too cold or wet outside, I'll be down in my basement sizing
    and trimming brass or loading cases.

    I only recommend reloading for those who are willing to make the time, since it is a hobby in itself.

    I have thought about it before, but I have hobbies already that take
    time, that I'd rather be doing. :-)

    My youngest son has talked about it, and if it was something we could
    do TOGETHER? That's another story!




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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Jimmy Anderson on Fri Jan 6 16:23:02 2023
    Re: Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Arelor on Thu Jan 05 2023 01:24 pm

    If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on a public forum, I would go with a Llama .38 revolver. I am tired of semi-autos because I see so many get stuck in the shooting range.

    Is it the airplane or the pilot? :-)


    The old Astra semi-autos in my regular shooting range, which they have for lending to
    new shooters, certainly count as defective crap. There were a couple of them I have
    never seen discharge a whole magazine without getting jammed.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Jimmy Anderson on Fri Jan 6 16:28:59 2023
    Re: Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Arelor on Thu Jan 05 2023 01:24 pm

    BTW I think a bowie knife is also a great carry if you are big enough to pack it. A regular person spends more time cutting and chopping things than shooting at stuff anyway. If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on a public forum, I'd carry a Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie in a custom sheath (because the one it comes with is lame).

    My backup is a tactical pen. I can carry it where a gun is not legal, and
    it makes for a great 'poker!'


    I am not a fan of so called tactical pens. For one thing, they don't cut. Knives don't
    write, but if you need to write something you are more likely to find a pen lying
    around than a good knife. ie. if I am at home and need to pick a pen for taking a
    note, I will find one in a drawer. If I am in the horseyard and one of the horses gets
    entangled with a rope, I won't have a knife unless I pack one myself.

    There is also the fact that no LEO is getting fooled by a tactical pen. It is gonna be
    classified as a weapon. If you are going to carry something that will be classified as
    a weapon with the intention of using it as a weapon, you may as well pack the real
    deal.

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/FINALZON to Arelor on Sat Jan 7 21:56:00 2023
    Arelor wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Re: Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Arelor on Thu Jan 05 2023 01:24 pm

    If it was legal here or I were willing to break the law and admit it on a public forum, I would go with a Llama .38 revolver. I am tired of semi-autos because I see so many get stuck in the shooting range.

    Is it the airplane or the pilot? :-)


    The old Astra semi-autos in my regular shooting range, which they have
    for lending to new shooters, certainly count as defective crap. There
    were a couple of them I have never seen discharge a whole magazine
    without getting jammed.

    Ah - so a GOOD QUALITY semi-auto would be fine then?




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/FINALZON to Arelor on Sat Jan 7 21:59:00 2023
    Arelor wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    My backup is a tactical pen. I can carry it where a gun is not legal, and
    it makes for a great 'poker!'


    I am not a fan of so called tactical pens. For one thing, they don't
    cut. Knives don't write, but if you need to write something you are
    more likely to find a pen lying around than a good knife. ie. if I am
    at home and need to pick a pen for taking a note, I will find one in a drawer. If I am in the horseyard and one of the horses gets entangled
    with a rope, I won't have a knife unless I pack one myself.

    I carry a pocketknife also, but even that is not allowed some places.

    There is also the fact that no LEO is getting fooled by a tactical pen.
    It is gonna be classified as a weapon. If you are going to carry
    something that will be classified as a weapon with the intention of
    using it as a weapon, you may as well pack the real deal.

    Not worrieda about LEO when it comes to a posted area like a movie
    theater, bank, school, etc.

    And I'm not trying to 'fool' any body with it. It's my backup in the
    event someone tries to wrestle with my gun hand, preventing a draw.
    The pen is in my shirt pocket and I can grab it with either hand, but
    it's also 'better than nothing' if I can't carry my gun...





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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Jimmy Anderson on Sun Jan 8 14:45:00 2023
    Re: Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Arelor on Sat Jan 07 2023 09:59 pm

    Arelor wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    My backup is a tactical pen. I can carry it where a gun is not legal, and it makes for a great 'poker!'


    I am not a fan of so called tactical pens. For one thing, they don't cut. Knives don't write, but if you need to write something you are more likely to find a pen lying around than a good knife. ie. if I am at home and need to pick a pen for taking a note, I will find one in a drawer. If I am in the horseyard and one of the horses gets entangled with a rope, I won't have a knife unless I pack one myself.

    I carry a pocketknife also, but even that is not allowed some places.

    There is also the fact that no LEO is getting fooled by a tactical pen. It is gonna be classified as a weapon. If you are going to carry something that will be classified as a weapon with the intention of using it as a weapon, you may as well pack the real deal.

    Not worrieda about LEO when it comes to a posted area like a movie
    theater, bank, school, etc.

    And I'm not trying to 'fool' any body with it. It's my backup in the
    event someone tries to wrestle with my gun hand, preventing a draw.
    The pen is in my shirt pocket and I can grab it with either hand, but
    it's also 'better than nothing' if I can't carry my gun...





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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Jimmy Anderson on Sun Jan 8 07:43:52 2023
    Arelor wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    My backup is a tactical pen. I can carry it where a gun is not legal, and it makes for a great 'poker!'


    I am not a fan of so called tactical pens. For one thing, they don't cut. Knives don't write, but if you need to write something you are more likely to find a pen lying around than a good knife. ie. if I am at home and need to pick a pen for taking a note, I will find one in a drawer. If I am in the horseyard and one of the horses gets entangled with a rope, I won't have a knife unless I pack one myself.

    I carry a pocketknife also, but even that is not allowed some places.

    There is also the fact that no LEO is getting fooled by a tactical pen. It is gonna be classified as a weapon. If you are going to carry something that will be classified as a weapon with the intention of using it as a weapon, you may as well pack the real deal.

    Not worrieda about LEO when it comes to a posted area like a movie
    theater, bank, school, etc.

    And I'm not trying to 'fool' any body with it. It's my backup in the
    event someone tries to wrestle with my gun hand, preventing a draw.
    The pen is in my shirt pocket and I can grab it with either hand, but
    it's also 'better than nothing' if I can't carry my gun...


    ... Every crowd has a silver lining - Phineas Taylor Barnum

    For that reason I always keep my pocket knife (which is a one hand open design) in my support hand pocket and I use the clip on the side so I don't have to dig deep. My primary backup is in the strong hand pocket, a .380 with 11 rounds loaded is a pretty decent backup, I think.

    Regards,
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Jimmy Anderson on Sun Jan 8 16:23:51 2023
    Re: Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Arelor on Sat Jan 07 2023 09:56 pm


    The old Astra semi-autos in my regular shooting range, which they have for lending to new shooters, certainly count as defective crap. There were a couple of them I have never seen discharge a whole magazine without getting jammed.

    Ah - so a GOOD QUALITY semi-auto would be fine then?

    Yes, it would be fine, but I got thrauma from those Astras so I'd rather stay with the Llama.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Weatherman on Mon Jan 9 22:08:00 2023
    Re: Re: Carry Pistols
    By: Weatherman to Jimmy Anderson on Sun Jan 08 2023 07:43 am

    Arelor wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    My backup is a tactical pen. I can carry it where a gun is not legal, it makes for a great 'poker!'


    I am not a fan of so called tactical pens. For one thing, they don't cut. Knives don't write, but if you need to write something you are more likely to find a pen lying around than a good knife. ie. if I a at home and need to pick a pen for taking a note, I will find one in drawer. If I am in the horseyard and one of the horses gets entangle with a rope, I won't have a knife unless I pack one myself.

    I carry a pocketknife also, but even that is not allowed some places.

    There is also the fact that no LEO is getting fooled by a tactical p It is gonna be classified as a weapon. If you are going to carry something that will be classified as a weapon with the intention of using it as a weapon, you may as well pack the real deal.

    Not worrieda about LEO when it comes to a posted area like a movie theater, bank, school, etc.

    And I'm not trying to 'fool' any body with it. It's my backup in the event someone tries to wrestle with my gun hand, preventing a draw.
    The pen is in my shirt pocket and I can grab it with either hand, but it's also 'better than nothing' if I can't carry my gun...


    ... Every crowd has a silver lining - Phineas Taylor Barnum

    For that reason I always keep my pocket knife (which is a one hand open desi in my support hand pocket and I use the clip on the side so I don't have to deep. My primary backup is in the strong hand pocket, a .380 with 11 rounds loaded is a pretty decent backup, I think.

    Regards,
    -==*>Weatherman<*==-

    Tactical pens and other pokey devices have value. A tactical pen or letter opener can pierce a lung or an artery in a neck. Your choice of attack
    points need to be critical in order for the other guy to rethink what he does next.

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/FINALZON to Moondog on Thu Jan 12 19:30:00 2023
    Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-


    Tactical pens and other pokey devices have value. A tactical pen or letter opener can pierce a lung or an artery in a neck. Your choice of attack points need to be critical in order for the other guy to rethink what he does next.

    Agreed! And in a situation where you only have a pointy thing and there's
    an active shooter or something... If you can't hide, go for the eyes!




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to MOONDOG on Tue Jan 10 13:37:00 2023
    MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Situational awareness is you greatest tool. Refuse to be a victim by avoiding becoming a victim. If someone is watching you as if something

    Agreed! 100%!

    The rest of your stuff is worth repeating too!


    is goi ng to happen, the chances are you casually pause and look around and see if someone else is looking suspicious. If you can walk on the opposite side of an obstacle and not forced to be in close proximity
    with a person is quick and
    easy. Look out for peple in parking lots, or if there were several
    open parking spots, but a van parked along side you. Then van
    situation is normally advised to women because an attacker can be
    waiting in the van, thne open the side door and grab the victim as they are trying to unlock their car. I knew a state policeman who gave that advice to everyone, because abduction by van was common when he was
    doing VIP protection working as an MP while deployed in Germany in the Army.




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to WEATHERMAN on Tue Jan 10 13:38:00 2023
    WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    For that reason I always keep my pocket knife (which is a one hand open design) in my support hand pocket and I use the clip on the side so I don't have to dig deep. My primary backup is in the strong hand
    pocket, a .380 with 11 rounds loaded is a pretty decent backup, I
    think.

    Yep! Great ideas!

    My wife has an LCP II in .380 that is a great little backup! I've
    thought of getting a MAX...




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