Hello esc!

** On Monday 20.02.23 - 14:57, esc wrote to Ogg:

This Privacy Ruling Against Facebook and Instagram Could
Spell the End of Targeted Ads

Man, this is actually something I'm not a huge fan of.
Sure, targeted ads and feeling as though you're being spied
on is lame. Totally. I get it. But facebook is an opt-in
platform. It's not a public utility like a library, it's a
business. I don't see how any government can force a
business to give away access to a commercial platform for
free.

One of the problems is that they use your activity data even
when you are not using FB. I've logged into FB for a few
minutes, check for some messages and then leave. But when I'd
visit another website, "targetted ads" based on what I was
reading on FB appear as ads on that other website! So,
clearly, FB is distributing my user activity/content info to
other parties.

The same ads would follow me when I visit other news sites, for
example.

So what's any company that relies on ad revenue to give
away services supposed to do? Charge for accounts? I guess?

I can live without FB, so I don't care what they do. I just
drop by to see if there are any new postings from friends. I
don't contribute content myself.

Maybe they could provide the option to turn OFF the
presentation of ads if I don't want to see them, meanwhile,
they could still collect and analyse my activity on FB.

But I don't like the way the ads keep following me from site to
site.

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Re: ..the End of Targeted
By: Ogg to esc on Thu Mar 02 2023 10:55 pm

drop by to see if there are any new postings from friends. I
don't contribute content myself.

Maybe they could provide the option to turn OFF the
presentation of ads if I don't want to see them, meanwhile,
they could still collect and analyse my activity on FB.

But I don't like the way the ads keep following me from site to
site.

dude i was at work at a meeting for a long time and i was complaining about my legs and knees hurting. fucking amazon was showing me some full leg heat and massager thing when i opened it

https://i.imgur.com/GE8tuNs.png

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Ogg wrote to esc <=-

One of the problems is that they use your activity data even
when you are not using FB. I've logged into FB for a few
minutes, check for some messages and then leave. But when I'd
visit another website, "targetted ads" based on what I was
reading on FB appear as ads on that other website! So,
clearly, FB is distributing my user activity/content info to
other parties.

I've seen people talking about a containerized browser for Facebook,
don't know if incognito mode would work. The mere fact that people need
to create a workaround to your company's privacy overreaches is a
serious issue that reflects the fact that you are their product, not
their customer.




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Re: Re: ..the End of Targeted
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Fri Mar 03 2023 06:19 am

I've seen people talking about a containerized browser for Facebook,
don't know if incognito mode would work. The mere fact that people need
to create a workaround to your company's privacy overreaches is a
serious issue that reflects the fact that you are their product, not
their customer.

There is the "Facebook Container" add-on for Firefox:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-container/

That does a good job of trying to isolate everything Facebook-related, including cookies and the trackers in embedded share buttons on other sites.

They do have kind of an insidious octopus of a service spread all around. Sounds like tinfoil hat territory to accurately describe what they do.

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Lmorchard wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

They do have kind of an insidious octopus of a service spread all
around. Sounds like tinfoil hat territory to accurately describe what
they do.

I especially bristled at them using Facebook for auth -- making it even
harder for people to disconnect from Facebook when other sites rely on
FB to authenticate you.

Spotify, at one point early on, required Facebook auth. They changed
after a while to allow other 3rd party auth like Google as well as email.




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