• Break-it-then-fix-it-crats

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to All on Wed Apr 2 18:12:22 2025
    Ask a New Yorker if they think marijuana should be legal, and they'll say "Yea, weed is pretty harmless, let the people smoke it."

    That's logical. But here's the problem: Democrats.

    They legalized marijuana (fixed a problem) then people started selling it illegally (caused a problem) and now Democrats have allocated $5 million dollars to crack down on illegal sales (fix a problem they created.)

    Weed is too expensive in the recreational stores. It's like $40 an 1/8th, and they charge a whopping 15% excise tax on it. Who's gonna pay that much for weed? Not me! And not anybody else who is accustomed to paying $10 a gram.

    To me it's insanely contradictory to hear news of the state "cracking down on illegal marijuana sales." What's illegal about it? It's marijuana and it's
    legal. No license? Big f'n deal. Who cares? Why don't they spend $5 million dollars cracking down on illegal immigrants instead?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Apr 3 14:35:00 2025
    illegally (caused a problem) and now Democrats have allocated $5
    illio
    dollars to crack down on illegal sales (fix a problem they created.)

    Weren't all sales illegal, and therefore a problem, before they
    egalized
    it? Not sure about NY but here illegal sales have always been illegal and have always been a problem with money allocated to combat it.

    Don't you mean "drugs" in general though? Or do they have a focused approach

    marijuana enforcement?

    Marijuana in particular because it can be grown here. Other drugs were
    also enforced against. Also, other elicit drugs were not taxable, where Marijuana was (and still is).

    The whole purpose of legalizing it in most states was to make money on taxes (if they didn't already have one like us), license fees, and application fees, which here I think are not refundable if your appication is rejected.

    That's a good point and that should be made clear to everyone, but it's being promoted as "We're no longer putting black people in jail for marijuana" instead of "We're doing this to put more money and power at Democrats' disposal."

    It isn't just Democrats disposal. Here, while our governor is a Democrat,
    it was the Republican-lead legislature that eventually made it legal. They like money, too.

    Weed has always been a part of culture in New York. For anyone to say "We're going to crack down on illegal sales," they're omitting the fact nobody has ever been able to crack down on illegal sales before, and they're delusional

    they think that they're going to start now.

    Could be, but it was a part of some culture here also. Going back to what
    I said above, it has always been grown here. It grows wild if you let it,
    just like any other weed.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 3 13:32:04 2025
    Marijuana in particular because it can be grown here. Other drugs were also enforced against. Also, other elicit drugs were not taxable, where Marijuana was (and still is).

    Is recreational weed legal in Kentucky now? Or just medical?

    In NY they have medical and recreational dispensaries, but only the recreational dispensaries charge tax (15% I think.)

    I've heard people say that "weed grows in the wild," but I don't think it's
    as true as it sounds. You can grow it outdoors, but the plants are typically killed during the fall harvest because they won't go dormant and won't survive winter temperatures or winter aridness.

    It isn't just Democrats disposal. Here, while our governor is a
    Democrat, it was the Republican-lead legislature that eventually made it legal. They like money, too.

    I'm surprised to hear that first part, but yea, most Republicans are whores.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Apr 4 07:52:29 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Another option they should consider: If marijuana legalization is such
    a "big problem" and they need to "allocate 5 million dollars to crack
    down on illegal marijuana sales," then why not just re-illegalize it
    then?

    Because this is all smoke and mirrors to hide the control and graft.

    Back in the 1920's weed was legal. Other than problems with some people (like we have with drunks today), it was fine.

    Then they made it illegal - but mostly to harass some ethnic groups. That didn't do anything but drive its use underground. But the Elitists made money to "enforce the law". Kinda hard to control a substance that is literally a weed that grows just about anywhere.

    Then they decided to "legalize" it. This just meant that the Elitists wanted to control its sale and get their cut of the profits. So they added more laws (More laws = less freedom) which means that they needed more money to launder... er... "enforce the law".

    Legalizing it is simple:
    1. Get rid of all the laws surrounding it.
    2. Make 1 law: Use of it is not an excuse for breaking the law. Just like drinking isn't excuse for breaking the law.

    But the Elitists don't get to make more laws to hamstring us and don't have an income from it. So they don't want that.


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