• HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion...updated

    From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Apr 16 18:26:15 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...UPDATED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    226 PM EDT Tue Apr 16 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 1830Z Tue Apr 16 2024 - 12Z Wed Apr 17 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS EASTERN
    PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS SOUTHWARD THROUGH MUCH OF THE
    MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...1815Z Special Excessive Rainfall Discussion...
    Slow-moving convection had evolved into a complex that was
    producing 1 to 2.5 inch rainfall per hour rates over portions of
    northeast Nebraska into far western Iowa as of early this
    afternoon. The rates...combined with the fact that the convection
    has already persisted for a couple of hours and the proximity to
    mid/upper level cold temperatures...has raised the potential for
    flash flooding in the area. Have issued a Slight Risk area to cover
    that potential. Refer to Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0159
    for additional details.

    Bann

    ...16Z Update...

    Previous forecast was maintained with only minor modifications to
    the expansive MRGL risk area extending from the northern Plains
    into the Mississippi Valley over into the central Appalachians.
    Current radar/sat composite shows our broad surface reflection with
    SLP center located over central NE. Convective points of interest
    include the current convective bands located over SD/NE and MO/IA
    that are producing efficient rates of 1-2"/hr within the banded
    structures (More info in MPD #0158). This trend will continue as
    warm front progression lifts north and portions of the central
    Midwest see an increase in convective coverage after 18z with a
    progressive propagation to the northeast. The previous discussion
    outlines the reasoning perfectly as the combo of progressive storm
    motions and drier antecedent conditions over the impacted area will
    limit flooding in an areal extent and lean more locally within one
    or two cells that could over perform given the favorably evolving
    environment. Generally max QPF of 3-3.5" is the top end forecast
    given the latest probability fields from both NBM and HREF with
    majority seeing closer to 1.25-2.25" as per the latest mean(s).

    Over the south, increased diffluent pattern downstream of the mean
    trough will initiate a line of convection beginning in the Lower
    Mississippi Valley over AR, spreading northeast into the Ohio Valley
    by later in the period. This line will not have as favored an ascent
    pattern as areas in the Midwest, so the threat for flash flooding
    leans more on the lower end of MRGL comparatively, but certainly
    non-zero. Another smaller area over WV has a low-end probability
    for flash flood concerns as an area of mid-level vorticity advects
    northward into the region during the time of peak diurnal
    instability. MLCAPE around 1000-1500 J/kg are forecast in-of
    central and eastern WV which is enough to spur some local
    thunderstorm activity within the terrain. Chances again are low,
    but non-zero with some CAMs being more aggressive with the
    opportunity, so maintained continuity.

    Kleebauer

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Showers and thunderstorm are expected to align near and north of
    an east-west orientated warm frontal boundary that is stretched
    across the eastern portions of the Plains and the Ohio Valley. The
    highest rainfall rates and accumulation will likely be concentrated
    along the Minnesota/Iowa border where instability will be most
    supportive to produce 1-2"/hr rainfall over this area, which will
    likely exceed 1hr FFG in spots. One limiting factor for flash
    flooding will be the swift movement of cells, limiting the duration
    of heavy rates. Training/backbuilding near the warm front could
    help accumulations to reach or exceed 5 inches.

    Although there may be some 1hr and 3hr FFG exceedance, the
    coverage and magnitude of impacts are expected to remain below
    Slight risk levels. The main threat will be to urban areas, where
    the intense rates may lead to localized flash flooding. Outside of
    urban areas the dry ground and limited green vegetation may allow
    for some excess runoff, however these impacts are expected to
    remain isolated as well. A Marginal Risk area spans from the
    eastern Dakotas, Upper/Central Mississippi Valley and across parts
    of the Mid-Mississippi Valley.

    Campbell

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Apr 17 2024 - 12Z Thu Apr 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT LAKES, OHIO VALLEY AND WESTERN PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST...

    Showers and thunderstorms will track eastward across the Ohio
    Valley and some of these storms will be strong and capable of
    producing high rainfall rates. Overall, the storm motion will be
    but should generally be progressive in nature. There is less
    instability with eastward extent, which should result in lower
    rainfall rates. But given the above average soil saturation and
    streamflows over portions of Pennsylvania and New York the
    Marginal looks good.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Apr 18 2024 - 12Z Fri Apr 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    Another low pressure system will develop across the
    Southern/Central Plains and tap into the return flow from the Gulf
    of Mexico. Convection is expected to fire up ahead of the
    approaching cold front with areal averages of 1 to 2+ inches across
    the Missouri Ozarks/Mid-Mississippi Valley and trailing southwest
    to central Texas. Recent rains will have lowered some of the FFG
    across this region and may have an increased sensitivity to
    additional rain/heavy rain. A Marginal Risk area covers part of
    northeast Texas to southern Missouri and western Kentucky.


    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-iYjDA3XHM7ymKEJ0wma2cde-oxszA61ALa1U_aZD-Y3= Zv4mBcv9jlldJSjiRQUxzqeq3kZYqM9K2OEdSvuGf9Vzrjg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-iYjDA3XHM7ymKEJ0wma2cde-oxszA61ALa1U_aZD-Y3= Zv4mBcv9jlldJSjiRQUxzqeq3kZYqM9K2OEdSvuGLf-N4M0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-iYjDA3XHM7ymKEJ0wma2cde-oxszA61ALa1U_aZD-Y3= Zv4mBcv9jlldJSjiRQUxzqeq3kZYqM9K2OEdSvuGOi_7CaU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Apr 29 02:28:49 2024
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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion...UPDATED
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1028 PM EDT Sun Apr 28 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 0221Z Mon Apr 29 2024 - 12Z Mon Apr 29 2024

    ...A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    EAST TEXAS INTO FAR WESTERN LOUISIANA...

    ...0230z Special Update...

    A line of slow-moving thunderstorms will continue to train over
    portions of east TX with the primary line situated from
    Bryan/College Station, east-northeast to the LA border. Rainfall
    rates in excess of 3"/hr have been reported with 2-3 hr totals
    approaching 6" in places within the line. A strong convergent
    signature is noted on radar with light returns feeding up from the
    south against the band of heavy rainfall. Until cold pool
    propagation can occur, significant totals in excess of 8-12"+ will
    be plausible as indicated via the latest HRRR which has the best=20
    short-term handle on the convection. A targeted Moderate Risk has=20
    been added to the D1 update to reflect the increasingly likelihood=20
    of flash flooding, as well as locally significant impacts likely=20
    within the next 3-6 hours.=20

    Kleebauer

    ...01Z update...

    00Z radar imagery and surface observations showed convection
    becoming more numerous and more intense from parts of Southern
    Plains into the Lower and Middle Mississippi Valley. High=20
    resolution CAM guidance latched on to that idea...building=20
    confidence in their solutions showing activity persisting into the=20
    overnight night hours before the intensity wanes. The primary=20
    concern for flash flooding appears to be from southern Arkansas=20
    into southeast Texas and nearby portions of Louisiana where=20
    rainfall rates appear to be sufficient to result in excessive=20
    rainfall in the event of training/repeat convection. Farther north=20
    in the mid-Mississippi Valley there is a potential for flash=20
    flooding from a second area of convection due to soils having=20
    become saturated by recent heavy rainfall and therefore more prone=20
    for flash flooding even with lower rainfall rates/amounts=20
    (especially from eastern Oklahoma into southwest Missouri). Not=20
    entirely sold on the latest HRRR idea of bridging the two areas=20
    with rainfall amounts/rates on the order of that produced by=20
    convection to the south...with a corresponding degree of excessive=20
    rainfall threat...but certainly not going to rule it out entirely=20
    while not ruling out the risk of flash flooding there overnight.

    Bann

    ...Previous Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    Expect to see additional convective development along the
    front/dryline across TX into eastern OK, with this activity pushing
    eastward into AR and southern MO by this evening. This will be
    supported by strong and persistent upper level divergence, and
    increasing 850mb moisture transport/convergence into the
    front/dryline. The 850mb moisture transport axis is a bit more
    progressive compared to Saturday, which combined with cold pool
    generation from the organized convection, should result in an
    eastward propagation of convection. Maybe just enough of an
    eastward motion to prevent a more widespread flash flood event.
    However, with the orientation of convection likely to match mean
    steering flow from the southwest at times...there will still likely
    be some brief training of cells. This will support rainfall rates
    as high as 1-3"/hr at times, and do expect we will at least see
    isolated to scattered flash flooding over a fairly large swath from
    eastern TX into southern MO.

    HREF EAS probabilities of exceeding 2" get as high as 40-70% over
    the area, but 3" EAS probabilities drop to 15-30%. Meanwhile
    neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 3" are over 50% over a
    large area, but 5" probabilities drop more into the 15-30% range.
    With EAS probabilities more indicative of QPF coverage, and
    neighborhood probabilities higher end maximum potential...this all
    suggests that areal averaged rainfall will tend to stay in the
    1-3" range...with localized swaths of 3-5" likely as well. However
    5"+ totals are a bit more uncertain...and while I'm sure we will
    see a swath or two of over 5" of rain, exactly where remains
    unclear. Overall would like to have seen a more concentrated and
    higher 5" probabilities to upgrade to a MDT risk. From a hydrology
    perspective, soil saturation and streamflows are elevated over
    some of this area, and not as much of other locations. Thus not
    quite enough sensitivity to justify using this as a reason to do a
    categorical upgrade at this time.

    Thus, overall still think this event remains as a higher end
    Slight risk across eastern TX, western LA, southeast OK, central
    and western AR and southern MO. Both the 00z and 06z HRRR runs have
    been aggressive with convective training and QPF amounts on the
    southwest flank of the area of convection over southeast TX into
    far western LA. This is a typical favorable location for
    training/backbuilding, so the HRRR evolution is possible. However
    the HRRR is further south of the higher HREF probabilities...while
    the experimental NSSL MPAS runs are actually further south of the
    HRRR, and even indicate the possibility ongoing convection in the
    morning persists and propagates fairly quickly through the region.
    Thus think there is still a bit too much uncertainty to go with a
    MDT risk upgrade...although this appears to be the most likely
    location for one...and so will continue to monitor observational
    and model trends today.

    Across the Midwest into Wisconsin and Michigan, a broad Marginal
    Risk remained in place with minor adjustments from continuity. Not
    a much instability here, and convection should generally be moving
    along at a decent clip. Although like further south, some brief
    along track training is possible given steering flow parallel to
    the boundary.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Apr 29 2024 - 12Z Tue Apr 30 2024

    ...A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    The convective and heavy rain threat shifts eastward into the
    lower Mississippi Valley on Monday. Thunderstorms with heavy rain
    are likely to be ongoing at the start of the period Monday morning
    across portions of far southeast TX into portions of LA and
    MS...and the main flash flood threat looks to be focused in roughly
    the first 12 hours of the outlook period. An impressive combination
    of mid/upper forcing, low level convergence, instability and
    moisture should be present to support a flash flood risk across
    this region.

    The 12Z model consensus indicates about 1000-1500 J/kg MLCAPE
    ahead of what is expected to be a lingering nocturnal MCS from
    eastern TX into LA. Precipitable water values are forecast to be
    approaching 2 inches just ahead of the forecast leading edge of the
    MCS with southerly 850 mb winds of 30 to 40+ kt just ahead,
    advecting in moisture from the south. The region will also lie
    within the diffluent and divergent right-entrance region of 100 to
    130 kt upper level jet max. Timing and placement differences
    remain within the 12Z components of the 12Z HREF concerning
    placement of the expected MCS at 12Z Monday, but the best
    probabilities for rainfall rates in the 2-3 in/hr range exist from north-central LA into southwestern LA and southeastern TX where backbuilding/training are most probable. The southwestern flank of
    the MCS is expected to move offshore into the Gulf of Mexico
    during the day as the leading edge continues to advance eastward
    across the Lower MS Valley. The forecast evolution of the MCS has
    it weakening and/or moving offshore by 00Z which should end or at
    least significant decrease the flash flood threat for the region.

    Farther north, a broad Marginal encompasses locations in the middle
    MS and lower OH Valley, eastward into the TN Valley. These
    locations will be within an anomalous moisture axis (standardized
    PWAT anomalies of +1 to +2) and at least weak instability, located
    ahead of a cold front approaching the lower OH Valley during the
    day. Convective coverage will expand with daytime heating and while
    most storms should stay progressive enough to limit flash flood
    concerns, a similar orientation/magnitude of the mean steering and
    850 mb flow suggests potential for localized training which may
    pose some flash flood concerns despite dry antecedent ground
    conditions.

    Otto

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Apr 30 2024 - 12Z Wed May 01 2024

    ...A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EXISTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...AND OVER
    THE UPPER TENNESSEE/OHIO VALLEYS INTO THE APPALACHIANS...

    ...Northeast...
    A lower end Marginal Risk was maintained for central PA into
    Upstate NY and portions of VT where localized 1 to 3 inch rainfall
    totals may occur. Guidance indicates the presence of a NW to SE
    oriented stationary front across this region on Tuesday, which
    will likely help enhance lower level convergence, along with the
    approach of a cold front from the west. Lift ahead of an
    approaching mid to upper-level shortwave and associated right
    entrance region of a jet max in southern Ontario/Quebec will aid in
    convective development. MLCAPE of ~500 to 1000+ J/kg is probable
    via the 12Z NAM (GFS tends to bias low with instability) over
    portions of PA and NY, although a bit less certain over VT. PWs are
    forecast to be quite high for late April/early May, with values
    from the 12Z NAM/GFS/ECMWF just over 1.25" (approaching
    climatological 99th percentile). Given the ingredients in place, it
    seems plausible that at least an isolated flash flood risk could
    evolve.

    ...Upper Ohio/Tennessee Valleys into the adjacent Appalachians...
    Some degree of overnight showers and thunderstorms is expected to
    continue into Tuesday morning from KY into TN, south and east of a
    cold front approaching from the west. It's not clear if storms
    lingering into Tuesday morning from the overnight will pose a flash
    flood concern but some redevelopment of convection is likely
    during the afternoon hours. Moisture anomalies are forecast to
    decrease during the day as an upper trough passes by overhead, but
    a small window for localized flash flooding appears possible prior
    to winds shifting around to the northwest near/after 00Z.


    ...Midwest to Upper Mississippi Valley...
    A broad Marginal risk extends from north central TX north into the
    Upper Midwest. The northern portion of this risk over IA and MN/WI
    will see the strongest forcing as a low pressure and a negatively
    tilted shortwave moves across the north-central U.S. The attendant
    cold front will be progressive, which suggests convection will be
    moving quick enough to prevent a higher flash flood threat. However
    do see enough instability and moisture to support briefly heavy
    rates, which could cause some localized urban flooding and/or
    isolated flash flood issues where ground conditions are more
    sensitive from recent rainfall.

    ...Southern to Central Plains...
    Further south the front is expected to become stationary over KS
    with a dryline extending southward from western OK into
    northwestern TX. Locations near the front could result in a training/backbuilding convective risk, although large scale forcing
    appears weak due to a lack of height falls across the region.
    Nonetheless, the presence of the stalling front and increasing low
    level flow into this boundary does suggest at least some flash
    flood risk could evolve.

    Even farther south into OK and TX, while there could be a weak
    perturbation aloft that helps to initiate convection, daytime
    heating and erosion of CIN might be the main driver of convective
    initiation along a dryline. 0-6 km bulk shear is forecast by the
    12Z GFS to be somewhat lackluster but seasonably moist airmass and
    recent heavy rain may be enough to support localized areas of flash
    flooding, especially if there is overlap with remaining
    hydrologically sensitive locations.

    Otto


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5G2FMs00mhhg1Gre3A3Htkrp3fkb_5ASYrCpvbQU8xUv= tAsVLe3jpKMtVftrRppKuWBBcLpvJTgJNw6xENPXtewOKWA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5G2FMs00mhhg1Gre3A3Htkrp3fkb_5ASYrCpvbQU8xUv= tAsVLe3jpKMtVftrRppKuWBBcLpvJTgJNw6xENPXgybBWLc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5G2FMs00mhhg1Gre3A3Htkrp3fkb_5ASYrCpvbQU8xUv= tAsVLe3jpKMtVftrRppKuWBBcLpvJTgJNw6xENPXA2HGYXo$=20

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