Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.I'm curious as to what transpired that caused this posting! LOL!
Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse.
Nothing is as easy as it looks.
Everything takes longer than you think.
If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that
will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong.
Corollary: If there is a worse time for something to go wrong, it
will happen then.
If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will anyway.
If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which a procedure
can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for,
will promptly develop.
If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.
Whenever you set out to do something, something else must be done first.
Every solution breeds new problems.
ogg wrote to TheCivvie <=-
Whenever you set out to do something, something else must be done
first.
I'm curious as to what transpired that caused this posting! LOL!
Every solution breeds new problems.
Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse.> the most damage will be the one to go wrong.
Nothing is as easy as it looks.
Everything takes longer than you think.
If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will ca
If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will anyway.>ong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for, will promptly de
If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which a procedure can go
If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something
Whenever you set out to do something, something else must be done first.
Every solution breeds new problems.
Rob Mccart wrote to THECIVVIE <=-
Every solution breeds new problems.
One similar thing that I ran across a long time ago..
(When you are confronted with a life changing choice)
Whatever you do (choose), you'll regret it.. B)
One similar thing that I ran across a long time ago..
(When you are confronted with a life changing choice)
Whatever you do (choose), you'll regret it.. B)
That I like, a true one that
One similar thing that I ran across a long time ago..
(When you are confronted with a life changing choice)
Whatever you do (choose), you'll regret it.. B)
That I like, a true one that
I think so.. Some people question that but the truth is that most
people when placed in a new situation tend to take notice of the
negative things a lot more than the positive things, especially
after a bit of time has passed.
Take marriage for example.. B)
TheCivvie wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
One similar thing that I ran across a long time ago..
(When you are confronted with a life changing choice)
Whatever you do (choose), you'll regret it.. B)
That I like, a true one that
I think so.. Some people question that but the truth is that most
people when placed in a new situation tend to take notice of the
negative things a lot more than the positive things, especially
after a bit of time has passed.
That sasdly is very true
Take marriage for example.. B)
married twice and divorced twice. Second time was a DIY job :)
I see the humor here, but again... Married once here and had the 41st
anniversary last month... :-)
TheCivvie wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
One similar thing that I ran across a long time ago..
(When you are confronted with a life changing choice)
Whatever you do (choose), you'll regret it.. B)
That I like, a true one that
I think so.. Some people question that but the truth is that most
people when placed in a new situation tend to take notice of the
negative things a lot more than the positive things, especially
after a bit of time has passed.
That sasdly is very true
I'm not so sure about that... I've made a few life-changing choices
over the years, and would have to say that the big majority of those
were absolutely the right choices.
Take marriage for example.. B)
married twice and divorced twice. Second time was a DIY job :)
I see the humor here, but again... Married once here and had the 41st
anniversary last month... :-)
TheCivvie wrote to Gamgee <=-
I'm not so sure about that... I've made a few life-changing choices
over the years, and would have to say that the big majority of those
were absolutely the right choices.
I tend to always make the wrong one :) I have had so many knocks in
life that I no longer trust my decisions
Take marriage for example.. B)
married twice and divorced twice. Second time was a DIY job :)
I see the humor here, but again... Married once here and had the 41st
anniversary last month... :-)
I went into the first marriage expecting it to last. Until she tried to burn the house down with the children in the house. Second marriage, I
was not over the first and had trust issues
One similar thing that I ran across a long time ago..
(When you are confronted with a life changing choice)
Whatever you do (choose), you'll regret it.. B)
Some people question that but the truth is that most
people when placed in a new situation tend to take notice of the
negative things a lot more than the positive things, especially
after a bit of time has passed.
Take marriage for example.. B)
married twice and divorced twice. Second time was a DIY job :)
>the years, and would have to say that the big majority of those were(When you are confronted with a life changing choice)
Whatever you do (choose), you'll regret it.. B)
I'm not so sure about that... I've made a few life-changing choices over
I see the humor here, but again... Married once here and had the 41st>anniversary last month... :-)
I think what was meant was you Notice the negative things more strongly.
Most people, day to day, may be happy but they don't stop and say,
Gee, I'm so happy today!.. But when something goes wrong, you might
seriously hate the world for a while..
Rob Mccart wrote to GAMGEE <=->the years, and would have to say that the big majority of those were
(When you are confronted with a life changing choice)
Whatever you do (choose), you'll regret it.. B)
I'm not so sure about that... I've made a few life-changing choices over
I think what was meant was you Notice the negative things more
strongly. Most people, day to day, may be happy but they don't stop and say, Gee, I'm so happy today!.. But when something goes wrong, you
might seriously hate the world for a while..
I've been asked if I regret dropping out of 'normal' society and
if I'm happy and my reply was that I'm virtually never UN-happy,
and I don't know how many people can really say that..
I'm not so sure about that... I've made a few life-changing
choices over the years, and would have to say that the big
majority of those were absolutely the right choices.
I tend to always make the wrong one :) I have had so many knocks
in life that I no longer trust my decisions
Sorry to hear. I guess I've been somewhat lucky.
Take marriage for example.. B)
married twice and divorced twice. Second time was a DIY job :)
I see the humor here, but again... Married once here and had the
41st
anniversary last month... :-)
I went into the first marriage expecting it to last. Until she
tried to burn the house down with the children in the house.
Second marriage, I was not over the first and had trust issues
Ugh, well that sucks. Hope things are well now.
Some people question that but the truth is that most
people when placed in a new situation tend to take notice of the
negative things a lot more than the positive things, especially
after a bit of time has passed.
Take marriage for example.. B)
married twice and divorced twice. Second time was a DIY job :)
Married once.. long ago for 5 years. I learn from my mistakes.. B)
I think what was meant was you Notice the negative things more>whatever life-changing choices were made.
strongly. Most people, day to day, may be happy but they don't stop and say, Gee, I'm so happy today!.. But when something goes wrong, you
might seriously hate the world for a while..
Well, as I said, I don't think I have any negative things as a result of
I've been asked if I regret dropping out of 'normal' society and
if I'm happy and my reply was that I'm virtually never UN-happy,
and I don't know how many people can really say that..
Not sure what "dropping out of normal society" means..., but OK.
Rob Mccart wrote to GAMGEE <=-
I've been asked if I regret dropping out of 'normal' society and
if I'm happy and my reply was that I'm virtually never UN-happy,
and I don't know how many people can really say that..
Not sure what "dropping out of normal society" means..., but OK.
I gave up living in the city and working 'normal' type jobs almost
40 years ago and moved into a small cabin in the woods on the shores
of Georgian Bay where I'm alone 90% of the time.
I go shopping for things I need usually just one day every 2 weeks.
I normally don't even start my car during that 2 week period.
I have seasonal neighbours in summer but, other than the odd quick
hello and how are you doing if I pass them walking or biking out
for mail, I usually have very little contact with them.
I go shopping for things I need usually just one day every
2 weeks. I normally don't even start my car during that 2
week period.
I gave up living in the city and working 'normal' type jobs almost
40 years ago and moved into a small cabin in the woods on the shores
of Georgian Bay where I'm alone 90% of the time.
I go shopping for things I need usually just one day every 2 weeks.
I normally don't even start my car during that 2 week period.
I have seasonal neighbours in summer but, other than the odd quick
hello and how are you doing if I pass them walking or biking out
for mail, I usually have very little contact with them.
Hello Rob!
Married once.. long ago for 5 years. I learn from my mistakes.. B)> been partners for longer than both of my 2 marriages so that is a good sign
I am attempting to marry again, glutton for punishment or something. But we h
Hello Rob Mccart!
** On Sunday 20.04.25 - 01:23, Rob Mccart wrote to GAMGEE:
I go shopping for things I need usually just one day every 2 weeks.
I normally don't even start my car during that 2 week period.
A car should get more regular use than that. For one thing, it
helps to maintain the life of the battery. Also, parked that long,
I bet the rotors develop quite a layer of corrosion.
I gave up living in the city and working 'normal' type jobs almost>well enough to have continued it for that long. Most people would not
40 years ago and moved into a small cabin in the woods on the shores
of Georgian Bay where I'm alone 90% of the time.
Wow, that's very interesting. Seems a little extreme, but must suit you
I'm assuming you subsist (at least somewhat) "off the land"? Such as>growing some vegetables and hunting some animals? I guess you have
I go shopping for things I need usually just one day every>helps to maintain the life of the battery. Also, parked that
2 weeks. I normally don't even start my car during that 2
week period.
A car should get more regular use than that. For one thing, it
I only shop once a month. I go to the Doctor's office every two weeks. That's as much as I drive as well. My battery has to be recharged every winter, but lasts its normal life. I don't know about my tires. I drive less than 500 miles a year, so didn't see any advantage of getting more than 50k mile tires. That would theoretically last me 100 years... I absolutely hate driving and almost die each time I'm behind the wheel. It's too dangerous for me to be out on the road more than I need to be. When I do visit friends, I take an Uber pet and bring my cat with me.
Rob Mccart wrote to GAMGEE <=->well enough to have continued it for that long. Most people would not
I gave up living in the city and working 'normal' type jobs almost
40 years ago and moved into a small cabin in the woods on the shores
of Georgian Bay where I'm alone 90% of the time.
Wow, that's very interesting. Seems a little extreme, but must suit you
I'm assuming you subsist (at least somewhat) "off the land"? Such as>growing some vegetables and hunting some animals? I guess you have
I have a land line and a cell phone with Internet through the cell
and regular electricity and mostly electric heat since the insurance people got unreasonable about having a wood stove. Apparently the
one I used just fine for over 30 years was 'unsafe'..
I know my lifestyle wouldn't be for everyone. I enjoy eMail and
such as a form of contact with others and in summer I have family
that comes up for several days at a time a 4 or 5 times a year.
Winters are pretty long and quiet with almost no one around for
miles.. This is more a summer vacation area than used for winter
sports around here.
I'm afraid I buy my food which tarnishes my Mountain Man image.. B)
I was never a hunter and don't own a gun and most would not believe
living on the shore, I don't even fish.. and the only boat I own is
a canoe. I had a small sailboat at one time too. The land here is
mostly thin soil in places and exposed bedrock for the most part.
It would be possible to have a small garden built up, a few people
down the road do that, but I always found the amount of work to
grow food is a lot more than it is maybe worth in dollars by the
end of the season. My sister and niece often bring me up a few
veggies they grew at their homes when they are up here. My sister
has a similar cabin beside mine. We share the property ownership
but she is only up here for maybe 2 to 3 weeks a year these days.
I only shop once a month. I go to the Doctor's office every two weeks.>That's as much as I drive as well. My battery has to be recharged every
> > 40 years ago and moved into a small cabin in the woods on the shoresI gave up living in the city and working 'normal' type jobs almost
Wise move. Welcome to the club.>for half the week because of $job, but within 5 to 10 years I will be able
I am not fully there yet because I still have to move to the next province
I don't hate being around other people, and when it does
happen I often talk a fair amount, and most who meet me
tend to like me, but I've never felt the need to seek out
others because I was lonely..
It would be possible to have a small garden built up, a few people>food, especially if the local land isn't that hospitable for growing.
down the road do that, but I always found the amount of work to
grow food is a lot more than it is maybe worth in dollars by the
end of the season.
Excellent. Agreed on the value of time/effort versus a few dollars for
Sounds like you have a good thing going there.
>> year, so didn't see any advantage of getting more than 50kI don't know about my tires. I drive less than 500 miles a
Have you tried taking an uber to the doctor? That would be several less>times you would have to drive.
Tires do eventually wear out, even if never driven on. They eventually>start to rot and lose air... or at least they used to. Maybe they've
I don't hate being around other people, and when it does>martins? wild turkeys?
happen I often talk a fair amount, and most who meet me
tend to like me, but I've never felt the need to seek out
others because I was lonely..
Do you have nature's animals as "pets"? ;) Chickadees?
Once again, a fairly large jack rabbit has decided to hang>around my property. I think it steals the food that I leave out
The odd Canada goose might like to hang out in some open areas>close to the lake and house. Deer make frequent appearances.
I only shop once a month. I go to the Doctor's office every two weeks.drive
That's as much as I drive as well. My battery has to be recharged every
winter, but lasts its normal life. I don't know about my tires. I
less than 500 miles a year, so didn't see any advantage of getting morethan
50k mile tires. That would theoretically last me 100 years... Iabsolutely
hate driving and almost die each time I'm behind the wheel. It's toodo
dangerous for me to be out on the road more than I need to be. When I
visit friends, I take an Uber pet and bring my cat with me.
Have you tried taking an uber to the doctor? That would be several less times you would have to drive.
Tires do eventually wear out, even if never driven on. They eventually start to rot and lose air... or at least they used to. Maybe they've figured out a solution to that by now.
I don't know about my tires. I drive less than 500 miles a
year, so didn't see any advantage of getting more than 50k mile
tires.
Have you tried taking an uber to the doctor? That would be severalless
times you would have to drive.
Actually if you're driving that little it would probably be a lot
cheaper to not have a car and pay for rides everywhere if possible.
I'm so far from town that that isn't really an option for me. I'd
hate to spend $100 for transport to buy $50 worth of groceries.
Shurato wrote to Mike Powell <=-
My insurance is a lot less than 4 uber rides would be... I'm still
poor at the end of the day. Thanks, though!
I'm afraid I buy my food which tarnishes my Mountain Man image.. B)
I was never a hunter and don't own a gun and most would not believe
living on the shore, I don't even fish.
It would be possible to have a small garden built up, a few people
down the road do that, but I always found the amount of work to
grow food is a lot more than it is maybe worth in dollars by the
end of the season.
It's definitely not for everyone, and I suppose one could develop some pretty bad/unhealthy habits with no one around to comment on what
you're doing.
I don't hate being around other people, and when it does happen I
often talk a fair amount, and most who meet me tend to like me, but
I've never felt the need to seek out others because I was lonely..
Once again, a fairly large jack rabbit has decided to hang
around my property. I think it steals the food that I leave out
for my two cats. I think the rabbit is deaf because as once
while it was biding its time under my truck near the front and
I started up the truck and pulled back, the rabbit was still in
the same spot!
I've definitely had my share of critters here over the years.
I don't feed them to encourage them but about 4 days in a row
earlier this spring I've come out my front door in mid afternoon
and there was a deer eating the long grass left from last year
in a grassy low area about 30 feet from the house.
Actually if you're driving that little it would probably be a lot>additional uber rides would be. My ride to and fro the Doctor's office is
cheaper to not have a car and pay for rides everywhere if possible.
I'm so far from town that that isn't really an option for me. I'd
hate to spend $100 for transport to buy $50 worth of groceries.
The only car related expense I have is insurance, which is a LOT cheaper than
> > down the road do that, but I always found the amount of work toIt would be possible to have a small garden built up, a few people
I produce my own eggs and have a plentiful vegetable production.>save money if you are efficient, but that is not the point, only the advantag
The value of growing your own food is not in how much money you do save. You
Have you heard of that blackout we had in Spain? The whole country was busted>upermarkets closed, petrol stations didn't work, and since most cooking is do
Kind one is the one who usually buys food, and spent the day scrambling aroun>ike a beheaded chicken because water supplies weren't operational and there w
Kind two is the one who has a year worth of canned vegetables and a room wort>f water barrels and spent the morning doing accounting and the afternoon havi
Guess which kind of person used to laugh at which other kind of person for be> a dumb paranoid redneck :-)
So yeah, definitively there is reason to grow your own stuff. I think there i>reat value of becoming less dependant.
> > often talk a fair amount, and most who meet me tend to like me, butI don't hate being around other people, and when it does happen I
That is probably because you don't encounter much friction with the people>you run into. Everybody is nice when there is no conflict of interests.
Problems come when you are forced to exist within a tight society.
> > earlier this spring I've come out my front door in mid afternoon.. about 4 days in a row
How cute! There are deer around here too, but they don't let themselves be se
We also have foxes here. I like them, but they also force me to lock the hens> a safe place at night. We also have lots of sky predators (hawks et al) that
You haven't lived until you see a Seagull dive on and eat a live
snake that's twice as long as the gull is.. B)
We started off talking about gardens though and the other thing about
that, especially here where we probably have shorter and harsher
seasons than you do there, is that you do 3 or 4 months of work before
most of it is ready to eat, and then most of it gets picked fairly
quickly and you get 2 or 3 weeks of fresh meals while you figure out
some way to make the rest of your garden produce keep until you can
use it, so we're back to canned foods for lack of a better term for
most of that produce..
>> snake that's twice as long as the gull is.. B)You haven't lived until you see a Seagull dive on and eat a live
I have actually never seen a gull go after anything alive that wasn't in>the water. Most of the ones I have had contact with are hanging around
Speaking of.. First sign of spring. No, not a Robin. I
got the water system in so I have running water again. No
more carrying pails of water up the hill, although they
still show the odd night when it may drop a bit below
freezing so that could be an issue briefly. It's doubtful
it will freeze hard enough to damage anything but I might
have to wait several hours the next morning for the water
line to thaw out..
My only problem is I tend to maximize growing things that I
know grow well on my land, and then exploit those varieties
to death. I am not going to plant 20 tomato plants and 20
carrots if I know tomatoes give me a better yield: I'd
rather plant 40 tomato plants. And then try to figure out a
way to disguise the fact I am gonna be eating tomatoes all
year around XD
The length of harvesting seasons varies greatly among regions. A couple miles> North from here they have to do all their growing and harvesting in about 2
With the use of greenhouses I can plant stuff in autumn and pick it up next s>ng. We actually get some hail storms in march or april but greenhoused stuff
This is true.. Greenhouses also have a limited season in
Canada. It allows people to start growing things 4 or 5
weeks early..
I never got into growing veggies up here. The odd time my
sister has brought me up a tomato plant in a pot but I
learned in a hurry that as soon as they started to get
close to ripe some wild animal or other would eat them
before I got to them, so I'd need to build a greenhouse
here to protect them too..
Chipmunks love stealing cherry tomatoes.. B)
No major issues with fungus or pests on your plants?
but heating one through our winters would be
near impossible and horribly expensive. My sister has a small greenhouse
still show the odd night when it may drop a bit below
freezing so that could be an issue briefly. It's doubtful
it will freeze hard enough to damage anything but I might
have to wait several hours the next morning for the water
line to thaw out..
No hot water for the day or for washing?
Arelor wrote to August Abolins <=-
Bugs and birds will obviously have a go at fruits and plants but I
produce so much I don't care about it.
Weather is the great enemy. An early freeze or hailstorm will mass up
your fruit production of the year, for example.
This is true.. Greenhouses also have a limited season in>365 Days a Year, No Matter Where You Live | Paperback
Canada. It allows people to start growing things 4 or 5
weeks early..
Check this out:
The Year-Round Vegetable Gardener: How to Grow Your Own Food
Niki Jabbour | Joseph De Sciose
I learned in a hurry that as soon as they started to get>but smaller, and built with removeable tops.
close to ripe some wild animal or other would eat them
before I got to them, so I'd need to build a greenhouse
here to protect them too..
I have seen frame structures with wiring akin to chicken wiring
> > near impossible and horribly expensive.but heating a greenhouse through our winters would be
Yeah, that sounds very inefficient.>ile up horsepoop in a corner - it will ferment overnight, releasing some heat
There are lots of tricks to keep greenhouses stable under bad weather. You ca
Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS <=-
If I had a greater interest in this I'd look into it better but the
bottom line is you can't grow plants even in a greehhouse unless it
is heated up to a point where the plants can survive. That's less efficient to do on a small scale, especially when you don't have a
large house where you can play setup games to steal some of the heat
from the house to help with that.
Rob Mccart wrote to ARELOR <=-
Plus we are helped by the insulating value of a few feet of snow,
which maybe sounds funny but it's true. When I get a good layer of
snow on the roof it's a lot easier to heat the house..
The Year-Round Vegetable Gardener: How to Grow Your Own
Food 365 Days a Year, No Matter Where You Live |
Paperback
Niki Jabbour | Joseph De Sciose
You always find a book for most things... B)
If I had a greater interest in this I'd look into it
better but the bottom line is you can't grow plants even
in a greehhouse unless it is heated up to a point where
the plants can survive. That's less efficient to do on a
small scale, especially when you don't have a large house
where you can play setup games to steal some of the heat
from the house to help with that.
I have seen frame structures with wiring akin to chicken
wiring but smaller, and built with removeable tops.
My sister uses something similar to that to keep rabbits
out of her garden, [...] She's just south of Peterborough
on a property that is 160 acres, much of it wooded..
..As in, she often has trouble getting up to enjoy her
cottage here because she's got to be at home to look after
her gardens at the hottest time of the year.
She's even set up automated watering systems but has found
them not as reliable as she'd hoped...
In recent years she's experimenting with growing some
plants inside holes in bales of straw. That was a new one
to me.. She had some success but I think had a problem
with some sort of plant infection last year and had to
burn a lot of material to clear that out..
Kurt Weiske wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
The "Greenhouse Mounted Homelab", or powering your garden with computer
waste heat...
Kurt Weiske wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
I brought a Mr. Heater up there - a heater head that screws onto a
propane tank. Crack a door open and run it, and I can get the cabin to
60 in 2 hours.
digimaus wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
The "Greenhouse Mounted Homelab", or powering your garden with computer
waste heat...
I could see that done fairly easioly if you have a couple of blade
servers running full-time in a date closet. Just poke a hole in a vertical wall at the top and have a fan blow the heat through insulated ducting.
Sean Dennis wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I don't need them now but they're good to have around in case the power goes out in the winter.
For those who don't know: https://www.mrheater.com/portable-buddy-heater.html
Kurt Weiske wrote to digimaus <=-
I saw the opposite - I work in renewable energy and went to a wind farm
in Texas to do a VM upgrade. The server room was outside the office
space and was 35 degrees inside. The metal tables were so cold you couldn't lean against them when typing. I asked if we could turn up the heat while we were working in there and they pointed to the louvered
vent letting outside air (which was also 35 degrees) into the shed!
I was surprised the humidity wouldn't have been a problem.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Definitely worth keeping around for emergencies.
Bottom line is you can't grow plants even in a greehhouse unless it> waste heat...
is heated up to a point where the plants can survive. That's less
efficient to do on a small scale, especially when you don't have a
large house where you can play setup games to steal some of the heat
from the house to help with that.
The "Greenhouse Mounted Homelab", or powering your garden with computer
Plus we are helped by the insulating value of a few feet of snow,>replaced a shingle roof that kept the snow on it with a metal roof, and
which maybe sounds funny but it's true. When I get a good layer of
snow on the roof it's a lot easier to heat the house..
That's true - I have a cabin up in the Sierra Nevada mountains. We
I brought a Mr. Heater up there - a heater head that screws onto a>propane tank. Crack a door open and run it, and I can get the cabin to
You always find a book for most things... B)
Operating a bookshop exposes me to such things. ;)
In recent years she's experimenting with growing some
plants inside holes in bales of straw. That was a new one
to me..
Raised beds with controlled drainage seems to be good solution.
But I hear ya.. a lot of resources goes into managing a garden.>And.. if you can't be onsight almost every day, the health of
digimaus wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Definitely worth keeping around for emergencies.
Absolutely. I paid $70 each for my heaters, now they're $130 each but still worth it. Better than freezing!
Now I'm thinking about getting into my parents' shed and grabbing one
to keep here with me in my apartment.
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-> waste heat...
The "Greenhouse Mounted Homelab", or powering your garden with computer
Not sure how much waste heat my Windows 7 Dual Core Laptop would
provide for such things... B)
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Wow.. 10 feet.. I get a little nervous here when I get 3 or 4 feet
of snow on the roof. I usually don't get that much on the house
since it's heated but the out buildings can get that much..
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