• Re: Old News

    From Jimmy Anderson@618:250/24 to Rob Mccart on Tue Nov 25 22:47:02 2025
    Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Did something about the volcanic erruption prevent them from being
    dated properly? I had never heard that before.

    Quick correction on my part. I checked into that Mt. St. Helens
    >thing again, and I had it wrong. The "thousands of years old"
    >dates came from older wood the eruption kicked up, not the new
    >trees from 1980. Just wanting to be accurate, so I'll own that one.

    That was my first thought as well, materials from earlier eruptions,
    but there was some wild inaccuracy there. It sort of sounds like
    the numbers were thrown off when the organic materials rather than
    just dying normally were subjected to the super high heat of the
    lava flow there. There was talk about layers of charred bark from
    other eruptions too which added to the confusion.

    Interesting. So it might be hard for them to accurately date any of it...



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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Nov 27 09:18:49 2025
    That was my first thought as well, materials from earlier eruptions,
    but there was some wild inaccuracy there. It sort of sounds like
    the numbers were thrown off when the organic materials rather than
    just dying normally were subjected to the super high heat of the
    lava flow there. There was talk about layers of charred bark from
    other eruptions too which added to the confusion.

    Interesting. So it might be hard for them to accurately date any of it...

    I suppose things that 'died' in a normal way can be dated fairly
    accurately but if they end up in Lava or spend hundreds of years
    under water or something, it sounds like it could be a problem.
    Lava and fire contact is likely by far the worst.

    I think the most accurate results they've gotten were on plants
    and animals that died in the far north and have been frozen and
    buried under the ice for the last XX,000 years..

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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Rob Mccart on Thu Nov 27 17:39:36 2025
    Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I think the most accurate results they've gotten were on plants
    and animals that died in the far north and have been frozen and
    buried under the ice for the last XX,000 years..

    Carbon-14 dating is good for up to 60,000 years. There are other dating methods but they are expensive and hard to work with.

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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to DIGIMAUS on Sat Nov 29 08:58:02 2025
    I think the most accurate results they've gotten were on plants
    and animals that died in the far north and have been frozen and
    buried under the ice for the last XX,000 years..

    Carbon-14 dating is good for up to 60,000 years. There are other dating
    >methods but they are expensive and hard to work with.

    Yes, I'd read C-14 was good for up to 50,000 years.. and as you get
    closer to that age, the range it might be off by gets higher, often
    to plus or minus 4 or 5 thousand years.

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@618:250/24 to Rob Mccart on Wed Dec 3 22:10:57 2025
    Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    That was my first thought as well, materials from earlier eruptions,
    but there was some wild inaccuracy there. It sort of sounds like
    the numbers were thrown off when the organic materials rather than
    just dying normally were subjected to the super high heat of the
    lava flow there. There was talk about layers of charred bark from
    other eruptions too which added to the confusion.

    Interesting. So it might be hard for them to accurately date any of it...

    I suppose things that 'died' in a normal way can be dated fairly accurately but if they end up in Lava or spend hundreds of years
    under water or something, it sounds like it could be a problem.
    Lava and fire contact is likely by far the worst.

    I think the most accurate results they've gotten were on plants
    and animals that died in the far north and have been frozen and
    buried under the ice for the last XX,000 years..

    Well... Accurate based on current models. :-)



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  • From Jimmy Anderson@618:250/24 to digimaus on Wed Dec 3 22:10:57 2025
    digimaus wrote to Rob Mccart <=-

    Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I think the most accurate results they've gotten were on plants
    and animals that died in the far north and have been frozen and
    buried under the ice for the last XX,000 years..

    Carbon-14 dating is good for up to 60,000 years. There are other
    dating methods but they are expensive and hard to work with.

    Assuming something didn't artificially age it - or affect the half life.



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