Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I had an Epiphone Expedition. The sound didn't hold up well. I

>gave it to my grandson as a 'beginner' guitar when I replaced it
>with an Alvarez.

You'd think an Epiphone would stand up. They are made by Gibson
but are a somewhat lower model, but I can't really talk having
never owned or played one.

Well, all instruments are individual, so just not one that
aged well. I'm sure others are great. :-)

The store in Chattanooga had TWO just alike - one had a GREAT

>sound and the other was kinda flat. I bought the former. :-)

My Shiro (Martin made in Japan) I got at a good price after a
music store owner brought it in for his son who decided he
didn't want to learn how to play guitar after all..

He also felt he owed me a favour since I bought a new guitar
from him and soon decided that it was not all that good.
It was supposed to be a good medium quality guitar but I'd
been spoiled with learning and later buying used high end
guitars and I didn't realize how much difference there was
between the makes.

Yeah. :-) I feel spoiled when I walk into a store and pick one
up... I still play my Takamine I bought in 91 or so. It has
REALLY aged well for sure!


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I had an Epiphone Expedition. The sound didn't hold up well.

You'd think an Epiphone would stand up. They are made by Gibson
but are a somewhat lower model, but I can't really talk having
never owned or played one.

Well, all instruments are individual, so just not one that

>aged well. I'm sure others are great. :-)

Plus other factors come into it. In some places these wooden
instruments have to cope with high humidity or wild variances
in temperature, and that takes a toll on them. Assuming it
wasn't standing up because you were kicking it around.. B)

It was supposed to be a good medium quality guitar but I'd
been spoiled with learning and later buying used high end
guitars and I didn't realize how much difference there was
between the makes.

Yeah. :-) I feel spoiled when I walk into a store and pick one

>up... I still play my Takamine I bought in 91 or so. It has
>REALLY aged well for sure!

Yes, that's a decent medium level make and you can't complain
about that. I have a Japanese very good copy of a Gibson which
I bought quite used in about 1980, at least 15 or 20 years old.
Back about 2005 I brought it to a repair place and they changed
the angle of the main bridge a bit to change the tone that was
very slightly off from day 1, and there were a couple of internal
ribs where the glue had let go and were causing some other sound
issues, and it was much better after that. Last year it started
to get a bit flat again and I figured the ribs were causing a
problem again, but this time I dug out my much more expensive
guitar which I use daily now rather than keep 'saving it for good'
until I die without ever playing it...

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Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I had an Epiphone Expedition. The sound didn't hold up well.

You'd think an Epiphone would stand up. They are made by Gibson
but are a somewhat lower model, but I can't really talk having
never owned or played one.

Well, all instruments are individual, so just not one that

>aged well. I'm sure others are great. :-)

Plus other factors come into it. In some places these wooden
instruments have to cope with high humidity or wild variances
in temperature, and that takes a toll on them. Assuming it
wasn't standing up because you were kicking it around.. B)

LOL - no, wasn't kicking it around or abusing it. :-)

I did buy it 'new' but damaged. Was in the Gibson store. Was
asking for a travel and the guy pulled it from the back. Said
it had been knocked off the rack. There was a crack in the top
at the heel - not terrible but they couldn't sell it as
new.

Anyway - the manager said they had to scrap it. I offered to
buy it AS IS - no warranty - etc. That was about 16 years
ago, so it held up for over a decade! :-)

Yes, that's a decent medium level make and you can't complain
about that. I have a Japanese very good copy of a Gibson which
I bought quite used in about 1980, at least 15 or 20 years old.
Back about 2005 I brought it to a repair place and they changed
the angle of the main bridge a bit to change the tone that was
very slightly off from day 1, and there were a couple of internal
ribs where the glue had let go and were causing some other sound
issues, and it was much better after that.

Very cool! I've never gone in for a big repair like that. I figure
my Takamine will need a fret job eventually, and that's something
I will NOT do on my own!

Last year it started
to get a bit flat again and I figured the ribs were causing a
problem again, but this time I dug out my much more expensive
guitar which I use daily now rather than keep 'saving it for good'
until I die without ever playing it...

Good call! Enjoy it!!!


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Anyway - the manager said they had to scrap it. I offered to

>buy it AS IS - no warranty - etc. That was about 16 years
>ago, so it held up for over a decade! :-)

That's not bad if you get it cheap enough.. B)

My Japanese Gibson copy I bought at a guitar store used when
I as looking for a guitar to leave at the cottage. The owner
said he had a trade-in he didn't want to sell but I could buy
it cheap if I wanted it. It seemed okay other than a sticker
it had on it near the bottom front, but he said if I gave him
$15 I could have it.

I did that, and when I got it home the first thing I did was
peel the sticker off of it and under it there was a hole..
I ended up cutting a wedge out of that area and gluing in
a piece of similar spruce to seal it up and stabilize the
sound (it was much improved). I couldn't match the patch to
the rest, so I painted it black and got a small brass plate
with my initials burned into the brass in black and it came
out pretty well, and it worked well for a lot of years before
I finally had to do more repairs as the original glue started
to fail, by then about 50 years old..

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Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Anyway - the manager said they had to scrap it. I offered to

>buy it AS IS - no warranty - etc. That was about 16 years
>ago, so it held up for over a decade! :-)

That's not bad if you get it cheap enough.. B)

$100 plus tax. Came with the gig bag too.

My Japanese Gibson copy I bought at a guitar store used when
I as looking for a guitar to leave at the cottage. The owner
said he had a trade-in he didn't want to sell but I could buy
it cheap if I wanted it. It seemed okay other than a sticker
it had on it near the bottom front, but he said if I gave him
$15 I could have it.

Can't beat that price!!!

I did that, and when I got it home the first thing I did was
peel the sticker off of it and under it there was a hole..
I ended up cutting a wedge out of that area and gluing in
a piece of similar spruce to seal it up and stabilize the
sound (it was much improved). I couldn't match the patch to
the rest, so I painted it black and got a small brass plate
with my initials burned into the brass in black and it came
out pretty well, and it worked well for a lot of years before
I finally had to do more repairs as the original glue started
to fail, by then about 50 years old..

WOW! So the 'hole' was covered by an improvement. :-) Like putting
a picture over a hole in the wall... Looks planned. :-)


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Hello Rob!

** On Thursday 27.11.25 - 09:18, Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON:

...the first thing I did was
peel the sticker off of it and under it there was a hole..

Speaking of guitars...


https://exclaim.ca/music/article/toronto-s-junction-guitars-is- moving-to-a-new-neighbourhood


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said he had a trade-in he didn't want to sell but I could buy
it cheap if I wanted it. It seemed okay other than a sticker
it had on it near the bottom front, but he said if I gave him
$15 I could have it.

Can't beat that price!!!

I did that, and when I got it home the first thing I did was
peel the sticker off of it and under it there was a hole..

WOW! So the 'hole' was covered by an improvement. :-) Like putting

>a picture over a hole in the wall... Looks planned. :-)

The sticker looked old enough I'm sure the last owner, who likely
traded it in on a new guitar, had done it. But I'd also wager that
the sales guy knew it was there or they never would have let it go
so cheap. I couldn't complain though since it was a fairly good
quality guitar and I was able to do the repair on it.

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Speaking of guitars...

https://exclaim.ca/music/article/toronto-s-junction-guitars-is-

>moving-to-a-new-neighbourhood

I don't think I was ever in that shop.. I was trying to remember the
big place I used to go to in Toronto and I think it was Steve's Music.

They had so much stock there it was unbelieveable..
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Nice weather we're having. Glad it's finally calming down some.

I hate the wind more than the cold since that helps it penetrate.
I usually leave one baseboard heater on overnight set at about 68f
and, if it's fairly cold, it's usually about 60f in here when I
wake up..

On Thursday it was relatively cold but 'shake the house' windy
and when I woke up it was only 41f in here.. My bigger blower
heater was running non stop for the next 12 hours or so trying
to get it up anything close to normal room temperature...

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Rob Mccart wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

said he had a trade-in he didn't want to sell but I could buy
it cheap if I wanted it. It seemed okay other than a sticker
it had on it near the bottom front, but he said if I gave him
$15 I could have it.

Can't beat that price!!!

I did that, and when I got it home the first thing I did was
peel the sticker off of it and under it there was a hole..

WOW! So the 'hole' was covered by an improvement. :-) Like putting

>a picture over a hole in the wall... Looks planned. :-)

The sticker looked old enough I'm sure the last owner, who likely
traded it in on a new guitar, had done it. But I'd also wager that
the sales guy knew it was there or they never would have let it go
so cheap. I couldn't complain though since it was a fairly good
quality guitar and I was able to do the repair on it.

I never 'grade' an instrument by the price or the brand. If you
gave that for it and it's a good instrument, then you got a
BARGAIN! :-)





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said he had a trade-in he didn't want to sell but I could buy
it cheap if I wanted it. It seemed okay other than a sticker
it had on it near the bottom front, but he said if I gave him
$15 I could have it.

I couldn't complain though since it was a fairly good
quality guitar and I was able to do the repair on it.

I never 'grade' an instrument by the price or the brand. If you

>gave that for it and it's a good instrument, then you got a
>BARGAIN! :-)

It was fine for a long time after I fixed it but, eventually, it
was getting old and I had to have it repaired properly, new glue
on a lot of internal braces and some bridge work and such.

That cost me about $100, so I eventually did pay a closer to
fair price for it.. B)

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