• ai sucks

    From Arelor@618:250/24 to Jas Hud on Mon Apr 1 17:08:13 2024
    Re: ai sucks
    By: Jas Hud to All on Wed Mar 27 2024 11:40 pm

    i know i talked about this at another net that totally hates having me there


    I think it is a beta product they are hyping and rushing into production, for the most part.

    I have seen some impressive work done. For example, they created a full video with AI that featured the TV anchor Iker Jimenez reading a famous post from Forocoches (the largest Spanish web forum). You'd laugh your ass off watching this famous guy talking about hot Latinas in all seriousness. Still I think this sort of thing is still the exception rather than the rules for now.

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Mike Powell on Mon Apr 1 17:15:47 2024
    Re: ai sucks
    By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Thu Mar 28 2024 08:45 am

    I think it could be dangerous in the long (and even short) run. As you point out, many of the ai engines are scraping the net, which means they
    are probably getting some good data and a whole lot of noise. Soon, they will be just as good at spewing out misinformation as any human could imagine to be.

    Linux Magazine published a great article about deliberate data poisoning that could be used to mistrain an AI. It featured a practical example/tutorial. THey made the point that you can make it obey hidden data inputs.

    For example, if you are training the AI for recognicing handwritting, you usually give it multiple samples. Now imagine all the "Rs" you show to it have a hidden feature, like a particular ink color, or a small stain on the border of the sample. THe machine would learn that all the letters with that hidden feature are an "R". Then, in the wild, you could purposedly break the AI results by presenting it a "C" that displayed the hidden feature and it will be interpretated as an "R".

    Now imagine the AI system is used to process bank checks and you can make it mistake 0s and 1s for 9s.

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Jas Hud on Mon Apr 1 17:26:04 2024
    Re: Re: ai sucks
    By: Jas Hud to Mike Powell on Sun Mar 31 2024 11:41 am

    Anyways, apparently people are using this junk to write code.
    I hope they are getting what they paid for, or maybe they are just telling s


    A friend of mine works somewhere where his boss tries once and again and again to produce code from an AI and incorporate it into a product. It never works.

    THe company is doing very badly as a whole and I expect it to hit bankrupcy as soon as the next key employee leaves.

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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Arelor on Mon Apr 1 22:28:29 2024
    To: Arelor
    Re: ai sucks
    By: Arelor to Mike Powell on Mon Apr 01 2024 05:15 pm

    usually give it multiple samples. Now imagine all the "Rs" you show to it have a hidden feature, like a particular ink color, or a small stain on the border of the sample. THe machine would learn that all the letters with that hidden feature are an "R". Then, in the wild, you could purposedly break the AI results by presenting it a "C" that displayed the hidden feature and it will be interpretated as an "R".

    Now imagine the AI system is used to process bank checks and you can make it


    we're going to have to do some urban warfare on AI soon or just become slaves. I heard that people could get juggalo tattoos to confuse AI recognition systems.

    Also you can identify someone by their gait. I have a unique walk from just wrecking my body and because I am big and I move so fast. They had an example of gait detection on the punisher tv show.

    We'll have to wear 4 inch heels on one foot.

    did you ever see that shit where in china it reads your face and if you go against the crosswalk it detects who you are by facial recognition and does a little shame video of you on a screen?
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 2 08:43:00 2024
    did you ever see that shit where in china it reads your face and if you go agai
    st the crosswalk it detects who you are by facial recognition and does a little
    shame video of you on a screen?

    That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

    Mike

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 2 12:56:07 2024
    Re: ai sucks
    By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:43 am

    That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

    Mike

    I find this sort of stuff sends a chill down my spine.
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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 2 16:50:59 2024
    To: Mike Powell
    Re: ai sucks
    By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:43 am

    From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

    did you ever see that shit where in china it reads your face and if you go agai
    st the crosswalk it detects who you are by facial recognition and does a little
    shame video of you on a screen?

    That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

    Mike

    chinese people are all concerned about face, so i guess it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxMWn0kEEw
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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Arelor on Tue Apr 2 16:51:20 2024
    To: Arelor
    Re: ai sucks
    By: Arelor to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 02 2024 12:56 pm

    From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

    Re: ai sucks
    By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:43 am

    That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

    Mike

    I find this sort of stuff sends a chill down my spine.

    the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 3 07:11:00 2024
    Jas Hud wrote to Arelor <=-

    we're going to have to do some urban warfare on AI soon or just become slaves. I heard that people could get juggalo tattoos to confuse AI recognition systems.

    We should all go back to wearing surgical masks.

    Also you can identify someone by their gait. I have a unique walk from just wrecking my body and because I am big and I move so fast. They
    had an example of gait detection on the punisher tv show.

    One of the "how to attend a protest" guides I read suggested putting a
    pebble in one shoe to throw your gait off. That came in handy at the
    "Blood-drinking Tranny Pedophile Lives Matter" protest I went to in San
    Francisco, because, you know, they're everywhere.




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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to JAS HUD on Wed Apr 3 08:44:00 2024
    That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

    chinese people are all concerned about face, so i guess it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxMWn0kEEw

    I am generally for anything that would cut down on jay walkers, as well as several other traffic violators that cause accidents.


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to JAS HUD on Wed Apr 3 08:49:00 2024
    I find this sort of stuff sends a chill down my spine.

    the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

    Indeed it is.


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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Mike Powell on Wed Apr 3 18:21:50 2024
    To: Mike Powell
    Re: ai sucks
    By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:44 am

    chinese people are all concerned about face, so i guess it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxMWn0kEEw

    I am generally for anything that would cut down on jay walkers, as well as several other traffic violators that cause accidents.


    well in china if you report a bad driver and you show proof, you get a little bit of money. that might be helpful over here.
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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Apr 3 18:25:20 2024
    To: Kurt Weiske
    Re: Re: ai sucks
    By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 03 2024 07:11 am

    we're going to have to do some urban warfare on AI soon or just become slaves. I heard that people could get juggalo tattoos to confuse AI recognition systems.

    We should all go back to wearing surgical masks.


    they probably have computer programs that can accurately simulate what
    you look like under the mask.


    One of the "how to attend a protest" guides I read suggested putting a
    pebble in one shoe to throw your gait off. That came in handy at the
    "Blood-drinking Tranny Pedophile Lives Matter" protest I went to in San
    Francisco, because, you know, they're everywhere.


    in SF you will be walking funny on the street anyways. you are stepping in human shit, or stepping over it. also there's the drug users and needles you need to step over.

    SAD!
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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Jas Hud on Thu Apr 4 06:34:00 2024
    Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    in SF you will be walking funny on the street anyways. you are
    stepping in human shit, or stepping over it. also there's the drug
    users and needles you need to step over.

    Walking through the mounds of feces and medical waste are nothing
    compared to trying to get past the false narrative.

    All cities have their good areas and bad areas. Painting all of San
    Francisco with images of the bad areas is disingenuous at best and
    projecting at its worst, when meant to smear a political party and their policies.

    Go ahead, tell me when the last time you were in San Francisco was. I'm
    going into The City tomorrow.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 4 06:37:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to JAS HUD <=-

    the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

    Indeed it is.

    It was worthy of an eye-opening Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas
    Howard. I'll need to re-watch that one.



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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Apr 4 16:48:12 2024
    To: Kurt Weiske
    Re: Re: ai sucks
    By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Thu Apr 04 2024 06:34 am

    Walking through the mounds of feces and medical waste are nothing
    compared to trying to get past the false narrative.

    All cities have their good areas and bad areas. Painting all of San Francisco with images of the bad areas is disingenuous at best and projecting at its worst, when meant to smear a political party and their policies.


    you're just making excuses, dude.

    Go ahead, tell me when the last time you were in San Francisco was. I'm going into The City tomorrow.


    I'm NEVER going there. I know people who vacationed there and traveled through it. i'd rather go on the other side of the country.
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Fri Apr 5 10:13:00 2024
    the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

    Indeed it is.

    It was worthy of an eye-opening Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas
    Howard. I'll need to re-watch that one.

    I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about
    it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.

    Mike


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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Mike Powell on Fri Apr 5 19:04:17 2024
    To: Mike Powell
    Re: Re: ai sucks
    By: Mike Powell to KURT WEISKE on Fri Apr 05 2024 10:13 am

    From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

    the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

    Indeed it is.

    It was worthy of an eye-opening Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas
    Howard. I'll need to re-watch that one.

    I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about
    it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.


    sometimes it's hit or miss.
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to JAS HUD on Sat Apr 6 09:46:00 2024
    I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.

    sometimes it's hit or miss.

    Thanks, that is good to know.

    Mike


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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Mike Powell on Sat Apr 6 12:52:50 2024
    To: Mike Powell
    Re: Re: ai sucks
    By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Sat Apr 06 2024 09:46 am

    From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

    I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.

    sometimes it's hit or miss.

    Thanks, that is good to know.

    Mike

    crocodile in season 4 was one an upsetting one for me.
    I think they crossed the line with that episode.

    if you want to know why you can google it. it's also the
    way they pulled it off that got to me.

    whats strange is i watched all of the episodes but i can only remember
    maybe 4 of them out of six seasons.
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