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I'm looking for something I could use from within an ssh connection in an internal network, to keep security.
Linux and forcecommand, but in windows, the telnet command isn't very well supported. Is there any alternative?
from ssh is ezstream, and there is a windows app for that, I believe.
Shurato wrote to All <=-
I'm looking for something I could use from within an ssh connection in
an internal network, to keep security. Right now, I'm doing that with Debian Linux and forcecommand, but in windows, the telnet command isn't very well supported. Is there any alternative? I'm trying to get rid
of my linux vm and move everything to Windows. The only thing I'm
running in Linux aside from ssh is ezstream, and there is a windows app for that, I believe.
I'm looking for something I could use from within an ssh connection in an internal network, to keep security. Right now, I'm doing that with Debian Linux and forcecommand, but in windows, the telnet command isn't very well supported. Is there any alternative? I'm trying to get rid of my linux vm
To: Shurato Re: Alternative Win32 Telnet Client? By: Shurato to All
on Mon Jan 08 2024 09:09 pm
From Newsgroup: micronet.comp
I'm looking for something I could use from within an ssh connection inan
internal network, to keep security.
keep security how? from what? doing what? huh?
Linux and forcecommand, but in windows, the telnet command isn't verywell
supported. Is there any alternative?
telnet is a protocol.
from ssh is ezstream, and there is a windows app for that, I believe.
okay internet says ezstream is a command line source client for icecast.
and your subject line says " Alternative Win32 Telnet Client? "
just about everything is wrong with your posting. you said you dont
want to use telnet anymore right?
anyways, install a ssh server and login that way.
Shurato wrote to All <=-
I'm looking for something I could use from within an ssh connectionin
an internal network, to keep security. Right now, I'm doing thatwith
Debian Linux and forcecommand, but in windows, the telnet commandisn't
very well supported. Is there any alternative? I'm trying to getrid
of my linux vm and move everything to Windows. The only thing I'm running in Linux aside from ssh is ezstream, and there is a windowsapp
for that, I believe.
Windows 10/11 and Windows Terminal seem pretty good, the new console
lets you copy and paste more easily to/from windows apps, and the SSH
client looks/feels like the Linux client.
It may kill Putty for most of my SSH use.
There are a lot of third party SSH apps out there, but I used Putty for years (still do, in fact) and it's got some issues but it's second
nature now.
My biggest pet peeve - I'd like to be able to export my settings. I
suppose I could run the portable version and copy the folder to/from
other systems...
... Remove specifics and convert to ambiguities
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On 08 Jan 24 21:09:00, Shurato said the following to All:
I'm looking for something I could use from within an ssh connection inan
internal network, to keep security. Right now, I'm doing that withDebian
Linux and forcecommand, but in windows, the telnet command isn't verywell
supported. Is there any alternative? I'm trying to get rid of mylinux vm
I'm not quite sure I understand why you are doing SSH in an internal network, but Mtelnet is my favorite - one executable... others like using Syncterm, Net runner etc.
Windows 10/11 and Windows Terminal seem pretty good, the new console
lets you copy and paste more easily to/from windows apps, and the SSH
client looks/feels like the Linux client.
Windows 10/11 and Windows Terminal seem pretty good, the new console
lets you copy and paste more easily to/from windows apps, and the SSH client looks/feels like the Linux client.
Mann's TelnetDoor works from a cmd line and you can do locals from it.
Windows 10/11 and Windows Terminal seem pretty good, the new console lets you copy and paste more easily to/from windows apps, and the SSH client looks/feels like the Linux client.
Mann's TelnetDoor works from a cmd line and you can do locals from it.
consoleWindows 10/11 and Windows Terminal seem pretty good, the new
SSHlets you copy and paste more easily to/from windows apps, and the
client looks/feels like the Linux client.
Mann's TelnetDoor works from a cmd line and you can do locals fromit.
Requires a dropfile or username input if -L is used. I tried running it from ForceCommand but got access denied. Thanks, though! I've seen
some mentions of plink, which is a putty command line. I'll look
into that.
My BBS software doesn't support ssh. I'm using a linux shell with an ssh server that telnets to the bbs internally, so the telnet session isn't leaked.
telnet is a protocol.
It's also an application. The windows 10 telnet application is a command
okay internet says ezstream is a command line source client for icecast.
ezstream is relevant as I'm running that from Linux like I am ssh and telnet and want to switch everything to windows.
client looks/feels like the Linux client.
It may kill Putty for most of my SSH use.
I need something that is commandline based that could be started from an ssh Forcecommand statement, like I do in linux with the linux telnet client. I tried that with the windows telnet client, but it looks horrible. I guess I'll have to stick with doing this from linux.
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Windows 10/11 and Windows Terminal seem pretty good, the new console
lets you copy and paste more easily to/from windows apps, and the SSH client looks/feels like the Linux client.
Mann's TelnetDoor works from a cmd line and you can do locals from it.
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syncterm can also be ran as a door.
i still dont get what this dude is doing.
is he trying to create a telnet out door?
To: Shurato
Re: Alternative Win32 Telnet Client? By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Tue
Jan 09 2024 11:06 am
My BBS software doesn't support ssh. I'm using a linux shell with anssh
server that telnets to the bbs internally, so the telnet session isn't leaked.
so you are only asking what telnet client you can use? just so you
know, telnet isnt what people would call secure.
telnet is a protocol.
It's also an application. The windows 10 telnet application is acommand
telnet = protocol telnet client = application that uses protocol.
icecast.okay internet says ezstream is a command line source client for
ezstream is relevant as I'm running that from Linux like I am ssh andtelnet
and want to switch everything to windows.
dude, speak english. so now you are looking for an icecast client alternative?
also your bbs tagline says you support ssh
https://i.imgur.com/wRFM6wX.png
if you want security you could run a synchronet bbs and have ssh only access. then it could forward to your local telnet port on your elebbs bbs.
To: Shurato
Re: Re: Alternative Win32 Telnet Client? By: Shurato to Kurt Weiske
on Tue Jan 09 2024 11:09 am
client looks/feels like the Linux client.
It may kill Putty for most of my SSH use.
I need something that is commandline based that could be started froman ssh
Forcecommand statement, like I do in linux with the linux telnetclient. I
tried that with the windows telnet client, but it looks horrible. Iguess
I'll have to stick with doing this from linux.
so why do you need to do this?
syncterm can also be ran as a door.
i still dont get what this dude is doing. is he trying to create
a telnet out door?
no idea
so why do you need to do this?
I don't, I want to for my users who are paranoid and want to use ssh instead of telnet. Everything I do is for users I don't have, not me. I'd just like to be able to do this from windows and get rid of my linux vm.
To: Shurato Re: Re: Alternative Win32 Telnet Client? By: Shurato
to Jas Hud on Wed Jan 10 2024 07:55 pm
so why do you need to do this?
I don't, I want to for my users who are paranoid and want to use sshinstead
of telnet. Everything I do is for users I don't have, not me. I'djust
like to be able to do this from windows and get rid of my linux vm.
use a program to pick up on ssh and forward to telnet.
I don't, I want to for my users who are paranoid and want to use ssh instead of telnet. Everything I do is for users I don't have, not me. I'd just lik to be able to do this from windows and get rid of my linux vm.
In 25 years of offering telnet access I've never had one that ever wanted SSH.
yeah it's pretty rare but it does happen. It's usually when a semi tech sa who doesn't know much about bbses is invited onto a bbs. those are the guys that ask why no ssh access.
aaaaand linux generally runs servers well, and bbses are now servers. so
On 10 Jan 24 19:55:00, Shurato said the following to Jas Hud:
I don't, I want to for my users who are paranoid and want to use sshinstead
of telnet. Everything I do is for users I don't have, not me. I'djust lik
to be able to do this from windows and get rid of my linux vm.
In 25 years of offering telnet access I've never had one that ever wanted SSH.
I really don't understand the fascination of any Sysop that wants to offer that. All of the convoluted Rube Goldberg in-betweenisms needed for a type of user that simply does not exist. Note that I said user... because what I do understand is the topic began on Fsx which itself is a Net
almost entirely comprised of insufferable Linux Sysops. Not users... Sysops.
When the idea was challenged on the merit the rebuttal was tech. Because Linux. Because we can, we must... offering something really only understood by another insufferable Linux Sysop. These are people
who I guarantee they have never ran a board before, never had
thousands of users or multiline systems in the 90's. But they're
here now, they're Linux, and they know it all.
No user calling a board prefers or even tries connecting via SSH. Only the insufferable Linux Sysop prefers this. And no, they are not paranoid users. Far from it... That "user" has a level of expectation
and mannerism an average caller does not have.
I wouldn't want such a user on my board anyway as right off the bat he feels a sense of techno-entitlement. Not ever realising that I could
be watching at the console. So much for the "security" for
mister-paranoid who probably would call once and vanish anyway.
Who wants that?
no idea
No! It's simple, I want to do ssh > telnet > bbs from within windows. Righ
I wouldn't want such a user on my board anyway as right off the bat he feel a sense of techno-entitlement. Not ever realising that I could be watching the console. So much for the "security" for mister-paranoid who probably wo call once and vanish anyway. Who wants that?
another insufferable Linux Sysop. These are people who I guarantee they hav never ran a board before, never had thousands of users or multiline systems
no idea
No! It's simple, I want to do ssh > telnet > bbs from within windows.Righ
I honestly didn't care, I just wanted to write something. <G>
Honestly I have very little in my life other than my BBS. It gives me something to do, when otherwise I would have nothing. Even for users I don't have, I would go that extra mile. Like adding email or a web interface or my own proxy (when the ftelnet proxy wouldn't work). It gives me something to
do, even though it's not for me.
That's what I've been looking for, but have been unable to find such a beast for Win32. I can do that flawlessly under Linux, but not Windows. I'm looking for something lean; not having to install yet another BBS software. I'm already running a session of mystic for MRC support.
To: Shurato
Re: Re: Alternative Win32 Telnet Client? By: Shurato to Jas Hud on
Wed Jan 10 2024 10:29 pm
That's what I've been looking for, but have been unable to find such abeast
for Win32. I can do that flawlessly under Linux, but not Windows. I'm looking for something lean; not having to install yet another BBSsoftware.
I'm already running a session of mystic for MRC support.
you're going to have to run another program. you dont want to 'install' another bbs software. that's holding you back.
you'll find something to use if you look. see if netserial does it.
i havent used it in years, though.
anyways, open up your mind.
Then they go and complain there is nothing native door wise to run, well no shit, everything that was done, HAS been done. Why do it for some stupid other OS .... while we're at it, why not be cool and run a MAC too .... don't even get me started on apple pile of shit phones and computers.
I most likely am the only person here that really liked his Windows phone.
I most likely am the only person here that really liked his Windows phone.
anyways, open up your mind.
Thanks. Linux does it so easily... I was just hoping there was a windows command line telnet client that would handle ansi well; that's all I need. It's working now, I won't mess with it much further.
I most likely am the only person here that really liked his Windows phone.
Being Iphone is nothing more a spyware device I may at long last look for
no Apple or Google phones.
I most likely am the only person here that really liked his Windows phone. Being Iphone is nothing more a spyware device I may at long
last look for no Apple or Google phones.
Surprisingly you're note alone. I absolute adored Windows Phone when I used it heavily 10 years ago. Eventually did go iPhone myself after brief stints with Android, but if Windows Phone had grown (and the phone build quality from Nokia was a little better, had 2 for 2 on power button failures) I'd still be using it I'm sure.
i know a guy that enjoyed his windows phone. it was jay hodges aka thorox. he did the backalley igms for lord.
I'm not quite sure I understand why you are doing SSH in an internal network, but Mtelnet is my favorite - one executable... others like using Syncterm, Net runner etc.
No user calling a board prefers or even tries connecting via SSH. Only the insufferable Linux Sysop prefers this. And no, they are not paranoid users. Far from it... That "user" has a level of expectation and mannerism an avera caller does not have.
Arelor wrote to Nick Andre <=-
If you are connecting a board over Tor, SSH is much safer to torify
(and less hackish). I often connect to boards over SSH myself.
If you are connecting a board over Tor, SSH is much safer to torify (and les hackish). I often connect to boards over SSH myself.
Captain paranoia speaking: with so much IoT crap running in homes right now, is often easier to ensure your chinesse light bulbs don't spy on you by usin encrypted tunnels within your LAN than by any other method (say, static ARP over a wired switched network).
To: Shurato Re: Re: Alternative Win32 Telnet Client? By: Shurato
to Jas Hud on Sat Jan 13 2024 02:17 pm
anyways, open up your mind.
Thanks. Linux does it so easily... I was just hoping there was awindows
command line telnet client that would handle ansi well; that's all Ineed.
It's working now, I won't mess with it much further.
uh, okay dude. pretty sure you wanted more than a telnet client that handles ansi.
If one uses IoT lightbulbs, sure...
Sad fact is that in a regular home today, the Captain Paranoias of the world must share their networks with people who purchases all sort of useless IoT crap.
I tend to place all the suspicious stuff in their own network segments or LA I even have two wireless networks at home: one for regular clients and one f suspicious clients. THe suspicious clients don't even get access to the Internet.
uh, okay dude. pretty sure you wanted more than a telnet client that handles ansi.
Nope, that's all I wanted. It has to be a command line based one, though. I've already got the ssh part figured out, but I can't get a telnet client started from that session that handles ansi.
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Re: Re: Alternative Win32 Telnet Client?
By: Nick Andre to Arelor on Mon Jan 15 2024 09:45 am
If one uses IoT lightbulbs, sure...
Sad fact is that in a regular home today, the Captain Paranoias of the world must share their networks with people who purchases all sort of useless IoT crap.
I tend to place all the suspicious stuff in their own network segments or LANs. I even have two wireless networks at home: one for regular clients and one for suspicious clients. THe suspicious clients don't even get access to the Internet.
and why do you have wifi access with no internet access? whats the point.
Same idea applies to NAS appliances, power inverters and other cheap chiness junk. You may need to connect to them from your computer, but you surely don need them to connect over the Internet.
and why do you have wifi access with no internet access? whats the point.
and why do you have wifi access with no internet access? whats the point.
Say you have a network printer you want to connect to your LAN over wifi, so people can sent print jobs to it from their computers, but the manufacturer is known for bullshit firmware upgrades which happen automatically over the Internet. If you connect it to its own Network behind a firewall that denies WLAN access to it, you will be able to use the printer withoutn risking it calling home.
Well i mean for your customers. i suggest you post an email address that they can email files for printing.
Well i mean for your customers. i suggest you post an email address that they can email files for printing.
I wouldn't let any outsider access any network.
Well i mean for your customers. i suggest you post an email address that they can email files for printing.
I wouldn't let any outsider access any network.
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On 16 Jan 24 05:11:30, Jas Hud said the following to Arelor:
and why do you have wifi access with no internet access? whats the point.
Wifi IP cameras that talk to a local DVR do not ever require Internet.
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On 16 Jan 24 07:54:29, Jas Hud said the following to Arelor:
Well i mean for your customers. i suggest you post an email address that they can email files for printing.
If this thread were actually about his company with customers - which it was
If this thread were actually about his company with customers - which it was not - and if he didn't care about security or confidentiality or he hired a very lazy tech with no cert flying by the seat of his pants... sure, why not.
I'm sure he wouldn't need me to tell him that at any company valuing security where a central printer/copier is involved, the employee's printed document
is spooled encrypted to the copier. The employee may only retrieve the job by actually going over to the copier keypad; sometimes with 2FA.
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Re: Re: Alternative Win32 Telnet Client?
By: Jas Hud to Arelor on Tue Jan 16 2024 07:54 am
Well i mean for your customers. i suggest you post an email address that they can email files for printing.
I wouldn't let any outsider access any network.
Oh, I was speaking about my home network here.
And now i know i can rob your house and just burn it down because your came dont record off site!
he says he provides network access to suspicious clients but they don't hav internet access on their wifi.
And now i know i can rob your house and just burn it down because your came
dont record off site!
Please read carefully.
The cameras do not have Internet access. I didn't say my DVR didn't.
Arelor wrote to Jas Hud <=-
Say you have a network printer you want to connect to your LAN over
wifi, so people can sent print jobs to it from their computers, but the manufacturer is known for bullshit firmware upgrades which happen automatically over the Internet.
Mike Powell wrote to NICK ANDRE <=-
I hope Jas re-read that before he took off for Canada with the matches
and gasoline. :D
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And now i know i can rob your house and just burn it down because your came
dont record off site!
Please read carefully.
The cameras do not have Internet access. I didn't say my DVR didn't.
I hope Jas re-read that before he took off for Canada with the matches and gasoline. :D
he says he provides network access to suspicious clients but they don't have internet access on their wifi.
https://i.imgur.com/EfJFU2d.png
when you say suspicious customers do you mean actual hardware and not customers? i thought you ran a store?
Nick Andre wrote to Jas Hud <=-
I'm sure he wouldn't need me to tell him that at any company valuing security where a central printer/copier is involved, the employee's printed document is spooled encrypted to the copier. The employee may
only retrieve the job by actually going over to the copier keypad; sometimes with 2FA.
Digimaus wrote to Arelor <=-
Say you have a network printer you want to connect to your LAN over
wifi, so people can sent print jobs to it from their computers, but the manufacturer is known for bullshit firmware upgrades which happen automatically over the Internet.
*cough*HP*cough*
At one of my last gigs, we had something called "follow me" printing.
You'd use your security badge to badge into any printer and the print
job would show up there. I managed a dozen offices around the country
(and 5 in the local area), being able to print with just a badge from anywhere was pretty damn cool.
Mike Powell wrote to NICK ANDRE <=-
I hope Jas re-read that before he took off for Canada with the matches and gasoline. :D
Obligatory video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U
XD
printer I did was an HP inkjet 500, which is still running somewhere
to this day. When they were Hewlett-Packard, and built printers like tanks.
LOL, the Talking Heads were something while they lasted.
I had a DeskJet 500 and I regret getting rid of it. Built like a tank and very reliable.
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printer I did was an HP inkjet 500, which is still running somewhere
to this day. When they were Hewlett-Packard, and built printers like tanks.
I had a DeskJet 500 and I regret getting rid of it. Built like a tank and very reliable.
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