• Leaving US? Where to?

    From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 9 09:56:00 2024
    If you follow any news about Canada, just as an example, they seem to b
    having issues, too. Russia is certainly out. So is Brazil. We have a Spanish poster on some of the networks who makes it sound like Spain is also out.

    That must be me.

    tiny is the guy that shits on canada.

    He meant "Spanish poster" and he is correct, I did mean him. ;)

    Tiny does, but so does Nick and several others. I only know of one
    Canadian on the BBS nets who likes to crap on the US but won't discuss
    anything going on in his own country. He does not post here.

    Mike

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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 9 16:58:04 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to JAS HUD <=-

    Tiny does, but so does Nick and several others. I only know of one Canadian on the BBS nets who likes to crap on the US but won't discuss anything going on in his own country. He does not post here.

    He used to be a member of Micronet but ghosted it when I stepped on his
    peepee because I ripped the Canadian gimmement. He also doesn't have the testicular fortitude to tel me to my face that this happened.

    (Funny how I know exactly who it is that you're talking about...)

    I think a majority of Canada's people are good-hardworking folks. Like the
    US, a minority thinks it's a majority.

    -- Sean

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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 9 21:09:54 2024
    To: Mike Powell
    Re: Leaving US? Where to?
    By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 09 2024 09:56 am

    Canadian on the BBS nets who likes to crap on the US but won't discuss anything going on in his own country. He does not post here.


    he probably lives off assistance and does drugs.
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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Digimaus on Wed Apr 10 07:10:00 2024
    Digimaus wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    I think a majority of Canada's people are good-hardworking folks. Like the US, a minority thinks it's a majority.

    Every time I go to Canada, I want to stay there - the people are
    friendly and the countryside is beautiful. Last time, I was in Port
    Hardy, BC and was in awe of the scenery.

    Great maple lattes, too. :)



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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Sat Apr 13 10:11:00 2024
    I think a majority of Canada's people are good-hardworking folks. Like the US, a minority thinks it's a majority.

    Every time I go to Canada, I want to stay there - the people are
    friendly and the countryside is beautiful. Last time, I was in Port
    Hardy, BC and was in awe of the scenery.

    Great maple lattes, too. :)

    I like it there, too, but if I was thinking of leaving the US for *political reasons* I don't think that would be the place to go. If you keep up with anything Canadian politics they have lots of issues there, too, re: free speech, what the government spends their money on, and some other things.

    The people I ran into were super friendly also but in part because I was
    from the states (but not states that border Canada) and so they knew from
    my accent right away that I wasn't from there. I am not sure how friendly
    they are to each other. ;) Also I seemed to be visiting areas that didn't
    get too many visitors from outside Canada (and especially not from a state
    that didn't border them). It was mostly rural Canada, from Thunder Bay
    across to the Soo, and then down around the southern shore of Lake Huron.

    I think I was the first person from Kentucky that most of them had ever met.

    The few that got to talking politics were either not happy because (1) they thought corporations had too much pull or (2) they thought their government
    was too far left and their health care system sucked. In other words, they sounded a lot like Americans.

    I am guessing after you lived there a few years, if you went there for political reasons, you'd then be looking for another somewhere else.

    Mike


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  • From Ross Branham@618:100/42 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Apr 13 11:36:53 2024
    Every time I go to Canada, I want to stay there - the people are
    friendly and the countryside is beautiful. Last time, I was in Port
    Hardy, BC and was in awe of the scenery.
    Great maple lattes, too. :)

    YEah Canadians are very friendy. I live in Buffalo which is right on the US/Candian Border. I'm like 10 minutes away. People here in Buffalo are also very friendy. It's a great community to live in. Could be because of some of the Canadian influence. It's like there is no border.

    Oh yeah. They also gave us Tim Hortons :)

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Mike Powell on Sat Apr 13 15:46:20 2024
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Mike Powell to KURT WEISKE on Sat Apr 13 2024 10:11 am

    I like it there, too, but if I was thinking of leaving the US for *political reasons* I don't think that would be the place to go. If you keep up with anything Canadian politics they have lots of issues there,

    We're most likely going to head to England - cash out our overinflated California real estate, buy a nice small place in a village where people know everyone. My wife is a citizen and her family is there, so thought it might be nice to retire to a place with a more civilized healthcare system.
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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Apr 13 21:53:37 2024
    To: Kurt Weiske
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Kurt Weiske to Mike Powell on Sat Apr 13 2024 03:46 pm

    know everyone. My wife is a citizen and her family is there, so thought it might be nice to retire to a place with a more civilized healthcare system.

    aka really high taxes.
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Sun Apr 14 08:35:00 2024
    We're most likely going to head to England - cash out our overinflated Californ
    a real estate, buy a nice small place in a village where people know everyone.

    I watch some British shows and have always thought that Yorkshire looks
    pretty. It looks a lot like parts of Kentucky so, for me, it might not be
    much of a change. ;)

    Mike

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Mike Powell on Sun Apr 14 08:47:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

    I watch some British shows and have always thought that Yorkshire looks pretty. It looks a lot like parts of Kentucky so, for me, it might not
    be much of a change. ;)

    There's a show called "Escape to the Country" where brits living in
    cities move out to country villages. There are a lot to choose from.

    It'd be nice to find a small village with a market town nearby,
    neighbors who know each other, and a pub that's a social center to the
    town.



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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to Jas Hud on Mon Apr 15 10:09:18 2024
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Jas Hud to Kurt Weiske on Sat Apr 13 2024 21:53:37

    know everyone. My wife is a citizen and her family is there, so thought i might be nice to retire to a place with a more civilized healthcare syste

    aka really high taxes.

    The complaint I have heard about their system is that, while it is not expensive to get care, you might have to wait a while especially if you are older. "A while" = longer than you would here, provided you have insurance here.

    Kurt's wife's family may have different experiences.
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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Apr 19 19:23:16 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    We're most likely going to head to England - cash out our overinflated California real estate, buy a nice small place in a village where
    people know everyone. My wife is a citizen and her family is there, so thought it might be nice to retire to a place with a more civilized healthcare system.

    My friend's mom was from London. Died of cancer waiting for treatment from
    the NHS. It ain't as good as you think it is. However, with your wife
    being a Bri'ish subject, I can understand wanting to move there.

    Me, after having lived abroad in a few places, will stay where I'm at,
    batshit crazy government and all.

    -- Sean

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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Jas Hud on Fri Apr 19 19:24:42 2024
    Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    aka really high taxes.

    "Free" healthcare ain't. Like Margaret Thatcher once said, "socialism is
    great until you run out of someone else's money."

    -- Sean

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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Mike Powell on Fri Apr 19 19:25:54 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

    I watch some British shows and have always thought that Yorkshire looks pretty. It looks a lot like parts of Kentucky so, for me, it might not
    be much of a change. ;)

    It's all pretty on the surface until you realize paying 40% (or more) tax on your income isn't so fun.

    -- Sean

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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Mike Powell on Fri Apr 19 19:27:40 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to Jas Hud <=-

    The complaint I have heard about their system is that, while it is not expensive to get care, you might have to wait a while especially if you are older. "A while" = longer than you would here, provided you have insurance here.

    As I said earlier, my friend's mom died of cancer while waiting for treatment...treatment that is readily available in the US. It may be
    expensive here but at least you have options.

    -- Sean

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to DIGIMAUS on Sat Apr 20 10:54:00 2024
    I watch some British shows and have always thought that Yorkshire looks pretty. It looks a lot like parts of Kentucky so, for me, it might not be much of a change. ;)

    It's all pretty on the surface until you realize paying 40% (or more) tax on your income isn't so fun.

    I sometimes get the impression that you are better off not having any
    income if you live there. ;)

    Mike


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Digimaus on Sat Apr 20 12:02:00 2024
    Digimaus wrote to Jas Hud <=-

    "Free" healthcare ain't. Like Margaret Thatcher once said, "socialism
    is great until you run out of someone else's money."

    I just finished my taxes and saw how much I paid for health insurance -
    I don't expect health insurance to be free, whether paid for out of
    taxes or paid to a for-profit enterprise that could concievably bankrupt
    me over what should be an inalienable right.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Digimaus on Sat Apr 20 12:06:00 2024
    Digimaus wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    It's all pretty on the surface until you realize paying 40% (or more)
    tax on your income isn't so fun.

    I see it as a wash - not paying property tax or paying for insurance, deductibles, out of pocket expenses, etc.

    We need to talk to a tax attorney, as we're going to be retiring there,
    not making anywhere near the income we make now. My wife's doing that,
    finding immigration attorneys for all of the fine print, getting my
    daughter's dual citizenship straightened out...



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  • From Jas Hud@618:250/1 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Apr 20 16:45:55 2024
    To: Kurt Weiske
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Kurt Weiske to Digimaus on Sat Apr 20 2024 12:02 pm

    From Newsgroup: micronet.debate

    Digimaus wrote to Jas Hud <=-

    "Free" healthcare ain't. Like Margaret Thatcher once said, "socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money."

    I just finished my taxes and saw how much I paid for health insurance -
    I don't expect health insurance to be free, whether paid for out of

    i had great heath insurance last year and i didn't pay much.
    but i also didn't use it.
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  • From Gamgee@618:250/24 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Apr 20 20:46:00 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Digimaus <=-

    "Free" healthcare ain't. Like Margaret Thatcher once said, "socialism
    is great until you run out of someone else's money."

    I just finished my taxes and saw how much I paid for health
    insurance - I don't expect health insurance to be free, whether
    paid for out of taxes or paid to a for-profit enterprise that
    could concievably bankrupt me over what should be an inalienable
    right.

    An inalienable right? Why would it be? Healthcare is a commodity, just
    like anything else that we buy.

    Should food be a guaranteed "right"? How about housing/shelter?


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  • From Gamgee@618:250/24 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Apr 20 20:49:00 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Digimaus <=-

    It's all pretty on the surface until you realize paying 40% (or more)
    tax on your income isn't so fun.

    I see it as a wash - not paying property tax or paying for
    insurance, deductibles, out of pocket expenses, etc.

    It's only a wash if you are *currently* paying 40% tax on your income. I kinda doubt you are doing that, even in Kalifornia.


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Sun Apr 21 09:37:00 2024
    I just finished my taxes and saw how much I paid for health insurance -
    I don't expect health insurance to be free, whether paid for out of
    taxes or paid to a for-profit enterprise that could concievably bankrupt
    me over what should be an inalienable right.

    If it is an inalienable right, and paying high premiums is a violation of
    that right, isn't waiting in queue for your turn for something your taxes
    pay for until you pass away also a violation of that right?

    Ideally it would be a right and you would also receive treatment in a
    timely manner.

    Mike


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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Mike Powell on Mon Apr 22 13:50:17 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DIGIMAUS <=-

    I sometimes get the impression that you are better off not having any income if you live there. ;)

    Like here in the US asd nearly all illegal aliens get better treatment than
    its citizens do.

    -- Sean

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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Apr 22 14:07:54 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Digimaus <=-

    I just finished my taxes and saw how much I paid for health insurance -
    I don't expect health insurance to be free, whether paid for out of
    taxes or paid to a for-profit enterprise that could concievably
    bankrupt me over what should be an inalienable right.

    I paid for my heathcare by losing my health due to government service and I
    did pay taxes for 40+ years until I couldn't work anymore. Now I am being forced to lose 14% of my monthly income to Medicare--something I don't want
    or need.

    The government is a for-profit enterprise but it has the power to jail you
    if you don't pay what it thinks you owe it. So "paid for out of taxes or
    paid to a for-profit enterprise" doesn't mean much of a difference in the US but the sole difference compared to single-payer healthcare is that in the
    US you have a choice so you don't die waiting to get tratment for cancer.

    I don't expect you to understand since you've not dealt with the VA or had
    to live off Social Security but, in my experience, both types of healthcare
    are identical.

    -- Sean


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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Apr 22 14:10:39 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Digimaus <=-

    We need to talk to a tax attorney, as we're going to be retiring there, not making anywhere near the income we make now. My wife's doing that, finding immigration attorneys for all of the fine print, getting my daughter's dual citizenship straightened out...

    I hope that you and your family find happiness no matter what may come.

    I never had a chance to have children or a family and that is one of the
    very few regrets I have in my life.

    -- Sean

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 23 09:30:08 2024
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Mike Powell to DIGIMAUS on Sat Apr 20 2024 10:54 am

    I sometimes get the impression that you are better off not having any
    income if you live there. ;)

    The no-income strategy is a viable one in socialist(ic) countries. For example, in Spain you can get a number of administrations to boot your bills if you are poor enough.

    What people does is to have some low paying underground job (so the money cannot be demonstrated to belong to them) and then they ensure they have no property legally attatched to them. This means they have no car or house or whatever that belongs to them. They use their aunt's car and their father's gardening tools and live in a social protection house or something.

    You don't get a luxurious life this way but you get to live working a couple of months a year. You get to make as many babies as you want since the government will cover for them too.


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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Apr 23 09:36:16 2024
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Kurt Weiske to Digimaus on Sat Apr 20 2024 12:02 pm

    I just finished my taxes and saw how much I paid for health insurance -
    I don't expect health insurance to be free, whether paid for out of
    taxes or paid to a for-profit enterprise that could concievably bankrupt
    me over what should be an inalienable right.

    Full disclosure, I work in the industry.

    The man difference between social healthcare and private healthcare is that social healthcare forces you to buy it whether it is shit or not. I could argue the orthopedia units from local social healthcare suck and that I want to buy a private plan instead. The authorities would tell me that is great, and then tell me to keep paying the social healthcare related taxes. In effect, social healthcare is a tool for the rich and powerful because it allows the rich to pick the private provider of their choosing, while the people who can't pay both the private and the social clog the latter (freeing the former).

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to DIGIMAUS on Tue Apr 23 09:42:00 2024
    I sometimes get the impression that you are better off not having any income if you live there. ;)

    Like here in the US asd nearly all illegal aliens get better treatment than its citizens do.

    Unfortunately.

    After watching the first 3 episodes of "Mr. Bates vs. the Post Office," I
    am not sure I would trust any British government run programs. They
    treated their subpostmasters horribly, and all in order to save face
    because they deployed a very broken computer system.

    Granted, I don't trust many of our federal programs, either.

    Mike


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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 23 19:05:16 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DIGIMAUS <=-

    Granted, I don't trust many of our federal programs, either.

    Two of my favorite quotes concerning government:

    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.'" -- Ronald Reagan

    "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when
    it deserves it." -- Mark Twain

    -- Sean
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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Arelor on Tue Apr 23 20:10:59 2024
    Arelor wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    The man difference between social healthcare and private healthcare is that social healthcare forces you to buy it whether it is shit or not.

    I'm paying $174--14% of my monthly income--a month for Medicare I don't actually need since I have VA benefits.

    -- Sean

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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Arelor on Tue Apr 23 20:14:36 2024
    Arelor wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    The no-income strategy is a viable one in socialist(ic) countries. For example, in Spain you can get a number of administrations to boot your bills if you are poor enough.

    In the US, if you're a disabled single white childless male, you get discriminated against. I'm losing 14% of my monthly income to Medicare (something I don't need since I have medical benefits from my Army service).
    I am not allowed to get SNAP benefits ("food stamps") because I make about
    $500 a year too much.

    Thankfully there are two churches within a short mobility scooter ride that
    I can pick up monthly food boxes from.

    If I was popping out kids shacking up with my girlfriend and of other
    ethnic groups, the world would be my oyster with free food, free healthcare, free, free, free...all paid for by honest American citizens, of course.

    -- Sean

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to DIGIMAUS on Wed Apr 24 09:43:00 2024
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.'" -- Ronald Reagan

    Here, depending on what group your working with, I think parts of our state government actually do a pretty good job considering the lack of resources
    they have.

    "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain

    Here, here!

    Mike

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to ARELOR on Wed Apr 24 09:44:00 2024
    You don't get a luxurious life this way but you get to live working a couple of
    months a year. You get to make as many babies as you want since the government >ill cover for them too.

    If I were trying this grift, I'd want to stay away from the babies. More
    dirty money for myself. ;)

    Mike


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Mike Powell on Wed Apr 24 10:02:18 2024
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Mike Powell to DIGIMAUS on Wed Apr 24 2024 09:43 am

    Here, depending on what group your working with, I think parts of our state government actually do a pretty good job considering the lack of resources they have.

    If they do good, I think it's in spite of themselves. I did a stint in local government and was amazed at the lack of concern over performance. Yes, the mission is good and true in most cases, but when it comes to execution it seems to fall apart more times than not.

    My experience with local government was that most people want to keep their heads down, don't make waves, do as little as possible, and retire with a pension. Don't do anything that could jeopardize that pension. The less you do, the less you're noticed, the better.

    Your mileage may very. I hope it does.
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Wed Apr 24 15:55:00 2024
    Here, depending on what group your working with, I think parts of our state
    government actually do a pretty good job considering the lack of resources they have.

    If they do good, I think it's in spite of themselves. I did a stint in local g
    ernment and was amazed at the lack of concern over performance. Yes, the missi
    is good and true in most cases, but when it comes to execution it seems to fa
    apart more times than not.

    My experience with local government was that most people want to keep their he
    s down, don't make waves, do as little as possible, and retire with a pension.
    on't do anything that could jeopardize that pension. The less you do, the less
    ou're noticed, the better.

    Your mileage may very. I hope it does.

    Maybe it is an issue with the local government you worked for. Also, I am guessing you worked in IT maybe, which made a difference for me.

    I worked for one cabinet that dealt specifically with IT for the rest of
    the state. My experiences there were not necessarily reflective of what I
    said above. They had the lack of resources bit, but the "ground troops"
    were often (but not always!) eager to engage. Management was usually the obstacle... wanting to do what they wanted to do rather than what the
    customer (another cabinet) had asked for.

    On some occassions, they'd get it lucky and get it right, i.e. what the
    cabinet was asking for really wasn't in their best interests. Usually,
    they just wanted to sell them whatever new stuff that had, in turn, been
    sold to them by some less than reputable salesperson.

    My experiences in two other cabinets leads me to believe that, while ther
    are a few "heads down" types, there are a lot who really want to do the
    best they can for the taxpayers and/or their other customers. The "heads
    down" and "do nothing" types found their opportunities to be even fewer and
    far between than the other employees, which either discouraged them out of government or forced them to pick up the pace.

    I never worked in Education. I will throw that out there as, in my state,
    many of their employees are unionized, they get different (usually better) benefits, and, based on our school systems, many are not using the money
    given to them wisely.

    Mike

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Mike Powell on Wed Apr 24 17:19:21 2024
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Mike Powell to ARELOR on Wed Apr 24 2024 09:44 am

    If I were trying this grift, I'd want to stay away from the babies. More dirty money for myself. ;)


    What Latinos tend to do is to grab the handouts for child raising materials (diapers and such) and then spend it all on something else. Often they don't buy diapers at all or anything.

    Also, having kids has lots of tax benefits. Many state services with limitted capacity (such as schools) are assigned first to big famiies and then to everybody else.

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to ARELOR on Thu Apr 25 08:49:00 2024
    Also, having kids has lots of tax benefits. Many state services with limitted c
    pacity (such as schools) are assigned first to big famiies and then to everybod
    else.

    Tax benefits I can (sort of) understand although I don't think they offset
    the cost of maintaining the kids. Then again, I have never tried living
    the "no income" lifestyle so maybe it works out at that level.

    To my knowledge, here the schools are not assigned that way.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 25 06:38:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

    Maybe it is an issue with the local government you worked for. Also, I
    am guessing you worked in IT maybe, which made a difference for me.

    I did work in local IT - I managed departments that ran the server infrastructure, desktop support, purchasing and service desk for 3,000
    county employees. The attitudes extended way beyond IT to the customers
    that we supported.

    I worked for one cabinet that dealt specifically with IT for the rest
    of the state. My experiences there were not necessarily reflective of what I said above. They had the lack of resources bit, but the "ground troops" were often (but not always!) eager to engage. Management was usually the obstacle... wanting to do what they wanted to do rather
    than what the customer (another cabinet) had asked for.

    The other oddity of my situation I didn't mention - IT didn't have much
    of a budget per se. Most of their budget came from cross-charging for
    services. Run into a shortfall? It's time for a department refresh of
    120 PCs.

    It all left a bad taste in my mouth, I'm used to using my skills to
    provide value to the people that work for me and the customers we
    support.




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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 25 08:34:24 2024
    Re: Re: Leaving US? Where to
    By: Mike Powell to ARELOR on Thu Apr 25 2024 08:49 am

    Tax benefits I can (sort of) understand although I don't think they offset the cost of maintaining the kids. Then again, I have never tried living the "no income" lifestyle so maybe it works out at that level.

    My daughter turned 13 in 2022, which meant none of the childcare expenses in 2023 were deductible. Maybe that's why they want to repeal child labor laws -- once they're no longer tax-deductible, some want to put them to work?

    I loved the photo op of Governer Sanders of Arkansas signing a bill relaxing child labor laws, surrounded by slightly confused-looking children.
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Thu Apr 25 18:47:00 2024
    The other oddity of my situation I didn't mention - IT didn't have much
    of a budget per se. Most of their budget came from cross-charging for services. Run into a shortfall? It's time for a department refresh of
    120 PCs.

    Same here, which is probably why I enjoyed it less than working directly in
    the cabinets. People seemed to care more about the job at hand there.

    Mike


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to KURT WEISKE on Thu Apr 25 18:53:00 2024
    Tax benefits I can (sort of) understand although I don't think they offset the cost of maintaining the kids. Then again, I have never tried living th
    "no income" lifestyle so maybe it works out at that level.

    My daughter turned 13 in 2022, which meant none of the childcare expenses in 2
    3 were deductible. Maybe that's why they want to repeal child labor laws -- on
    they're no longer tax-deductible, some want to put them to work?

    Did the tax benefits from 0-13 offset the maintenance costs? I am guessing not, right?

    Mike


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  • From Digimaus@618:618/1 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Apr 29 11:15:41 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    My experience with local government was that most people want to keep their heads down, don't make waves, do as little as possible, and
    retire with a pension. Don't do anything that could jeopardize that pension. The less you do, the less you're noticed, the better.

    That's government in a nutshell. That's the same thought process with the
    VA but you're putting peoples' lives at risk. That fact doesn't seem to
    matter to them in my experience.

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