I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.





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alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he had
escaped from.

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Bigbird <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he had escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror at the wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that
suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety perspective.

FWIW
DLM


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dmunz wrote:

Bigbird <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he
had escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror
at the wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety perspective.

Survival cell including halo intact https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/status/1333060939906740226/photo/1


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Alan Baker
Enjoy!
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On 11/30/2020 12:53 AM, Bigbird wrote:

dmunz wrote:

Bigbird <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he
had escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror
at the wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that
suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety
perspective.

Survival cell including halo intact https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/status/1333060939906740226/photo/1

The halo really paid for itself, without it Romain wouldn't have a head.
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barriers at a track entry point are at a weird angle these days for some reason (similar incidents in wtcc and btcc this year) - the barrier angles need changing back to kimi at silverstone days.
more fire extinguishers for marshals and bigger ones (only one track marshal seemed to have one and it wasn't doing much good compared to the other ones that eventually got there by car).
remove the fire extinguisher safety pins on the parade lap (i can't remember how many times i've witnessed nervous marshals fiddling about to remove them once a fire starts) - the actually safety pin purpose makes premature removal hardly a hazard for the duration of the race.
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Mr Gobrien wrote:

barriers at a track entry point are at a weird angle these days for
some reason (similar incidents in wtcc and btcc this year) - the
barrier angles need changing back to kimi at silverstone days.

more fire extinguishers for marshals and bigger ones (only one track
marshal seemed to have one and it wasn't doing much good compared to
the other ones that eventually got there by car).

remove the fire extinguisher safety pins on the parade lap (i can't
remember how many times i've witnessed nervous marshals fiddling
about to remove them once a fire starts) - the actually safety pin
purpose makes premature removal hardly a hazard for the duration of
the race.

Neither marshal I saw with an extinguisher was effective. One was quick
but did not suppress the fire at all. It really was down to the medical
car.

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Alan Baker
Enjoy!
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On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 7:30:54 AM UTC-7, alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

what a juvenile thread title
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On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 7:30:54 AM UTC-7, alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

hamilton installs man bun during red flag
thats his gay ass priority
then his handler had to remove it for restart
what a queer fuck
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On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 2:31:26 AM UTC+11, Mr Gobrien wrote:

barriers at a track entry point are at a weird angle these days for some reason (similar incidents in wtcc and btcc this year) - the barrier angles need changing back to kimi at silverstone days.

more fire extinguishers for marshals and bigger ones (only one track marshal seemed to have one and it wasn't doing much good compared to the other ones that eventually got there by car).

remove the fire extinguisher safety pins on the parade lap (i can't remember how many times i've witnessed nervous marshals fiddling about to remove them once a fire starts) - the actually safety pin purpose makes premature removal hardly a hazard for the duration of the race.

Of course they never think of those things. They don't train the marshal's or show them how to use an extinguisher. sheesh.
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dmunz <dlmunz@gmail.com> wrote:

Bigbird <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he had
escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror at the wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety perspective.

FWIW
DLM

rCLMinor injuriesrCY, incredible! Without the halo it could have been Tom Price all over again.

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On 29/11/2020 17:26, Sir Tim wrote:

dmunz <dlmunz@gmail.com> wrote:

Bigbird <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he had
escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror at the >> wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that
suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety
perspective.

FWIW
DLM

rCLMinor injuriesrCY, incredible! Without the halo it could have been Tom Price
all over again.

Nearly did have Tom Pryce with the marshal running across the track again :|

Cheers

Geoff
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On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:27:02 AM UTC-7, Sir Tim wrote:

Tom Price

This from the resident spelling nazi.
What a fucking buffoon.
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Bigbird wrote:

Mr Gobrien wrote:

barriers at a track entry point are at a weird angle these days for
some reason (similar incidents in wtcc and btcc this year) - the
barrier angles need changing back to kimi at silverstone days.

more fire extinguishers for marshals and bigger ones (only one track marshal seemed to have one and it wasn't doing much good compared to
the other ones that eventually got there by car).

remove the fire extinguisher safety pins on the parade lap (i can't remember how many times i've witnessed nervous marshals fiddling
about to remove them once a fire starts) - the actually safety pin
purpose makes premature removal hardly a hazard for the duration of
the race.

Neither marshal I saw with an extinguisher was effective. One was
quick but did not suppress the fire at all. It really was down to the
medical car.

Correction. I hadn't realised it was a marshal with an extinguisher
alongside one of the medics that did a good job.

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On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 08:06:14 -0800, texas gate wrote:

On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 7:30:54 AM UTC-7, alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

what a juvenile thread title

Perhaps but it is a word for word quote of what I said as I watched it



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On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:37:37 AM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:

Correction. I hadn't realised

oh my
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On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 4:27:02 AM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:

dmunz <> wrote:

Bigbird <> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he had >> escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror at the wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety perspective.

FWIW
DLM

rCLMinor injuriesrCY, incredible! Without the halo it could have been Tom Price
all over again.

--
Sir Tim

Seems he was burnt by contact with the hot guardrail.
The full FIA report will be interesting when it finally arrives.
I'm glad they were careful what shots they broadcast until they were sure that Romain was OK, well done on that.
build
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On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 5:30:58 PM UTC+11, build wrote:

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 4:27:02 AM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:

dmunz <> wrote:

Bigbird <> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he had >> escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror at the
wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety perspective.

FWIW
DLM

rCLMinor injuriesrCY, incredible! Without the halo it could have been Tom Price
all over again.

--
Sir Tim

Seems he was burnt by contact with the hot guardrail.
The full FIA report will be interesting when it finally arrives.
I'm glad they were careful what shots they broadcast until they were sure that Romain was OK, well done on that.
build

I just saw Dan Ric on the news complaining. Not on Dan, bad form.
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On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 11:30:58 PM UTC-7, build wrote:

Seems he was burnt by contact with the hot guardrail.

oh the fucking drama. sue someone you pussy fart
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On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 12:53:52 AM UTC-7, build wrote:

I just saw Dan Ric on the news complaining. Not on Dan, bad form.

What kind of fucking sentence is that? Are you on drugs?
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On 11/29/2020 10:31 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:

barriers at a track entry point are at a weird angle these days for some reason (similar incidents in wtcc and btcc this year) - the barrier angles need changing back to kimi at silverstone days.

more fire extinguishers for marshals and bigger ones (only one track marshal seemed to have one and it wasn't doing much good compared to the other ones that eventually got there by car).

remove the fire extinguisher safety pins on the parade lap (i can't remember how many times i've witnessed nervous marshals fiddling about to remove them once a fire starts) - the actually safety pin purpose makes premature removal hardly a hazard for the duration of the race.

Pro tip: Don't remove the pin until the extinguishant charge is needed. Running with an unpinned fire bottle invariably results in the handle
being depressed and the extinguishant or charge escaping before it is
needed. Learn not to freeze while removing the pin.
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On 11/29/2020 10:36 AM, Bigbird wrote:

Mr Gobrien wrote:

barriers at a track entry point are at a weird angle these days for
some reason (similar incidents in wtcc and btcc this year) - the
barrier angles need changing back to kimi at silverstone days.

more fire extinguishers for marshals and bigger ones (only one track
marshal seemed to have one and it wasn't doing much good compared to
the other ones that eventually got there by car).

remove the fire extinguisher safety pins on the parade lap (i can't
remember how many times i've witnessed nervous marshals fiddling
about to remove them once a fire starts) - the actually safety pin
purpose makes premature removal hardly a hazard for the duration of
the race.

Neither marshal I saw with an extinguisher was effective. One was quick
but did not suppress the fire at all. It really was down to the medical
car.

Different extinguishant? Greater volume?
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On 11/29/2020 12:26 PM, Sir Tim wrote:

dmunz <dlmunz@gmail.com> wrote:

Bigbird <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate
this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he had
escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror at the >> wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that
suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety
perspective.

FWIW
DLM

oMinor injurieso, incredible! Without the halo it could have been Tom Price all over again.

Cevert. Ratzenberger.
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On Monday, 30 November 2020 at 07:53:52 UTC, build wrote:

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 5:30:58 PM UTC+11, build wrote:

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 4:27:02 AM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:

dmunz <> wrote:

Bigbird <> wrote:

alister wrote:

I really did not expect that to end as well as it did.

Almost straight on into Armco.

Seeing Romain in the medical car was the biggest reason to celebrate >> this season... more so after seeing him jump the armco and where he had
escaped from.

Wow.

Horror, then relief (seeing him in the medical car) and then horror at the
wreckage.

It looks like he was jumping BACK onto the track. At first blush that suggests he went THROUGH the barrier.

Just amazing at how good these cars and drivers are from the safety perspective.

FWIW
DLM

rCLMinor injuriesrCY, incredible! Without the halo it could have been Tom Price
all over again.

--
Sir Tim

Seems he was burnt by contact with the hot guardrail.
The full FIA report will be interesting when it finally arrives.
I'm glad they were careful what shots they broadcast until they were sure that Romain was OK, well done on that.
build

I just saw Dan Ric on the news complaining. Not on Dan, bad form.

I suppose he wasn't aware (as he was in the cockpit at the time) of how discreet the coverage was up until we know Grosjean was safe and well.
I don't drive racing cars, but I can't imagine it was comfortable sitting in the pitlane seeing those pictures so I give him a pass for not having the
full story.
I also suppose the pitlane is a busy place in between restarts so
its difficult for him to put himself in the place of the rest of us who
had commandeered the remote for the afternoon and were trying to
hold onto it for 1hr20 whilst they fixed the barriers! We had to watch "something", and there's truly no harm in seeing someone nearly get
killed when you know for 100% certain that they didn't.
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it was like Helmut Koinnig's fatal accident (Watkins Glen 1974) or Ronnie Peterson (Monza 1978)
been so long since I've seen a big fire from an F1 car impact that I initially thought that a trackside vehicle had the barrier pushed into it and that had gone up - like Montoya did with a rain dryer vehicle on the track in Nascar - www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFm6o-qB6T4
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