• UK TV - Sky vs Channel 4 vs BBC 5 Commentaries

    From crms...@gmail.com@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 7 07:32:34 2020
    For the first time, watched the Sky coverage on a NowTV day sports pass, -u9.98, for the Sakhir GP. Good decision for this race!!
    Have to say both the Ch4 and BBC Radio 5 teams knock spots off the Sky team. Perhaps watch Sky video and listen to BBC Radio??
    And the BBC Chequered Flag podcasts are excellent as well.
    Used Roku Streaming+ stick into a 4K projector and 5.1 sound. Brilliant. But NowTV stingy with the basic 720 resolution.
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  • From Matt Larkin@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 7 07:40:50 2020
    On Monday, 7 December 2020 at 15:32:35 UTC, crms...@gmail.com wrote:
    For the first time, watched the Sky coverage on a NowTV day sports pass, -u9.98, for the Sakhir GP. Good decision for this race!!
    Have to say both the Ch4 and BBC Radio 5 teams knock spots off the Sky team. Perhaps watch Sky video and listen to BBC Radio??
    And the BBC Chequered Flag podcasts are excellent as well.
    Used Roku Streaming+ stick into a 4K projector and 5.1 sound. Brilliant. But NowTV stingy with the basic 720 resolution.
    I need to find a good way of trying to watch some live next year, without having to
    resort to piracy (mainly because tex would tell me off).
    Germany's RTL is stopping next year, and I presume that means the other free European satellite broadcasts will cease too (at least the ones I can lock onto with my cheap setup).
    My pet hate is having to avoid the news all day on Sunday to avoid hearing a broadcast about the result when I've missed it live for whatever reason, and I can't quite face that for the whole season from now on!
    My son agrees, btw; David Croft seems to be poor, though I did like him on the radio previously. The Ch4 team have done a good job, and I mostly like the radio 5
    guys; they do the world feed on the app too, don't they?
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  • From Matt Larkin@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 7 07:44:21 2020
    On Monday, 7 December 2020 at 15:40:51 UTC, Matt Larkin wrote:
    On Monday, 7 December 2020 at 15:32:35 UTC, crms...@gmail.com wrote:
    For the first time, watched the Sky coverage on a NowTV day sports pass, -u9.98, for the Sakhir GP. Good decision for this race!!
    Have to say both the Ch4 and BBC Radio 5 teams knock spots off the Sky team. Perhaps watch Sky video and listen to BBC Radio??
    And the BBC Chequered Flag podcasts are excellent as well.
    Used Roku Streaming+ stick into a 4K projector and 5.1 sound. Brilliant. But NowTV stingy with the basic 720 resolution.
    I need to find a good way of trying to watch some live next year, without having to
    resort to piracy (mainly because tex would tell me off).

    Germany's RTL is stopping next year, and I presume that means the other free European satellite broadcasts will cease too (at least the ones I can lock onto
    with my cheap setup).

    My pet hate is having to avoid the news all day on Sunday to avoid hearing a broadcast about the result when I've missed it live for whatever reason, and I
    can't quite face that for the whole season from now on!

    My son agrees, btw; David Croft seems to be poor, though I did like him on the
    radio previously. The Ch4 team have done a good job, and I mostly like the radio 5
    guys; they do the world feed on the app too, don't they?
    Ooh, maybe the Austrian broadcasters will help me out here... https://formulaspy.com/f1/orf-and-servustv-to-show-free-to-air-f1-from-2021-69664
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  • From crms...@gmail.com@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 7 08:08:36 2020
    Ooh, maybe the Austrian broadcasters will help me out here...

    https://formulaspy.com/f1/orf-and-servustv-to-show-free-to-air-f1-from-2021-69664

    Think ORF is on Astra at 19.2E, not sure about Servus TV??? I have a dual LNB setup in France to get RTL and BBC R5 on 19.2 and 28.2, so will need that again in UK.
    Yes, often commentary on website but not certain about geographry limits.
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 8 14:28:19 2020
    On 8/12/2020 4:40 am, Matt Larkin wrote:
    On Monday, 7 December 2020 at 15:32:35 UTC, crms...@gmail.com wrote:
    For the first time, watched the Sky coverage on a NowTV day sports pass, -u9.98, for the Sakhir GP. Good decision for this race!!
    Have to say both the Ch4 and BBC Radio 5 teams knock spots off the Sky team. Perhaps watch Sky video and listen to BBC Radio??
    And the BBC Chequered Flag podcasts are excellent as well.
    Used Roku Streaming+ stick into a 4K projector and 5.1 sound. Brilliant. But NowTV stingy with the basic 720 resolution.
    I need to find a good way of trying to watch some live next year, without having to
    resort to piracy (mainly because tex would tell me off).

    Germany's RTL is stopping next year, and I presume that means the other free European satellite broadcasts will cease too (at least the ones I can lock onto
    with my cheap setup).

    My pet hate is having to avoid the news all day on Sunday to avoid hearing a broadcast about the result when I've missed it live for whatever reason, and I
    can't quite face that for the whole season from now on!

    My son agrees, btw; David Croft seems to be poor, though I did like him on the
    radio previously. The Ch4 team have done a good job, and I mostly like the radio 5
    guys; they do the world feed on the app too, don't they?

    Croft certainly detracts from my enjoyment of F1. He may have been good on the radio (I didn't hear
    him on radio) but he needs to wind it back a few notches for TV - where there's pictures so a few
    moments silence isn't 'dead air'.

    I recently re-watched a pre-Croft race... Suzuka 2007 actually and even though it was a very wet
    race it was far more enjoyable as there were moments of quiet where I could just watch and draw my
    own conclusions...

    Croft seems to think he's talking to a blind audience who doesn't know a thing about F1 and needs
    to be told what to think. Not only that but (perhaps because he's so focused on talking all of the
    time) he makes lots of mistakes. The most recent was Sakhir lap 78 when Bono told Russell "looks
    like a rear left puncture" (the on-screen said "Russell" too) and, because Croft was talking about
    Bottas he talked like the message was for Bottas. It took Brundle to say "Was that Bono on the
    radio"? for Croft to realise his mistake.

    (Brundle is often correcting Croft and he's so very diplomatic about it most of the time.)

    When I turn on my TV I can always tell when the last programme I watched was F1. The sound system
    volume is lower than I have it set for anything else that I watch.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 8 15:11:49 2020
    On 8/12/2020 2:28 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
    <snip>
    I recently re-watched a pre-Croft race... Suzuka 2007 actually

    Aaaand - Mea Culpa. It was at Fuji, not Suzuka.

    and even though it was a very wet
    race it was far more enjoyable as there were moments of quiet where I could just watch and draw my
    own conclusions...
    <snip>
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Dec 9 23:10:34 2020
    On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 2:32:35 AM UTC+11, wrote:
    For the first time, watched the Sky coverage on a NowTV day sports pass, -u9.98, for the Sakhir GP. Good decision for this race!!
    Have to say both the Ch4 and BBC Radio 5 teams knock spots off the Sky team. Perhaps watch Sky video and listen to BBC Radio??
    And the BBC Chequered Flag podcasts are excellent as well.
    Used Roku Streaming+ stick into a 4K projector and 5.1 sound. Brilliant. But NowTV stingy with the basic 720 resolution.
    I did have a link to Radio5 that was excellent (I'd mute the Sky commentary), but that stopped working. Now I just mute the commentary most of the time.
    I reckon they could drop Croft and just have sane coverage from Brundle or the bloke from Radio5? Was that bloke Ant Davison?
    Does anyone like Croft ?
    build
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 10 07:38:40 2020
    build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 2:32:35 AM UTC+11, wrote:
    For the first time, watched the Sky coverage on a NowTV day sports pass,
    -u9.98, for the Sakhir GP. Good decision for this race!!
    Have to say both the Ch4 and BBC Radio 5 teams knock spots off the Sky
    team. Perhaps watch Sky video and listen to BBC Radio??
    And the BBC Chequered Flag podcasts are excellent as well.
    Used Roku Streaming+ stick into a 4K projector and 5.1 sound. Brilliant.
    But NowTV stingy with the basic 720 resolution.

    I did have a link to Radio5 that was excellent (I'd mute the Sky
    commentary), but that stopped working. Now I just mute the commentary most of the time.
    I reckon they could drop Croft and just have sane coverage from Brundle
    or the bloke from Radio5? Was that bloke Ant Davison?

    Does anyone like Croft ?

    build


    Yes, I do, in fact I like the entire Sky team.

    Croft is fluent and enthusiastic although his radio experience occasionally leads him to forget that we can actually *see* whatrCOs going on.

    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 11 00:26:15 2020
    On 10/12/2020 8:38 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 2:32:35 AM UTC+11, wrote:
    For the first time, watched the Sky coverage on a NowTV day sports pass, >>> -u9.98, for the Sakhir GP. Good decision for this race!!
    Have to say both the Ch4 and BBC Radio 5 teams knock spots off the Sky
    team. Perhaps watch Sky video and listen to BBC Radio??
    And the BBC Chequered Flag podcasts are excellent as well.
    Used Roku Streaming+ stick into a 4K projector and 5.1 sound. Brilliant. >>> But NowTV stingy with the basic 720 resolution.

    I did have a link to Radio5 that was excellent (I'd mute the Sky
    commentary), but that stopped working. Now I just mute the commentary most of the time.
    I reckon they could drop Croft and just have sane coverage from Brundle
    or the bloke from Radio5? Was that bloke Ant Davison?

    Does anyone like Croft ?

    build


    Yes, I do, in fact I like the entire Sky team.

    Croft is fluent and enthusiastic although his radio experience occasionally leads him to forget that we can actually *see* whatrCOs going on.

    ... sometimes more clearly than *he* can - which is what gets my goat. I could handle the
    motormouth at higher volumes when he's excited if he wasn't so often wrong when he gets like that.

    (I know it doesn't happen extremely frequently but often enough when he's already being annoying so
    that I'd think twice before pissing on him if he were on fire.)
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

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  • From Darryl Johnson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 10 09:39:24 2020
    On 2020-12-10 6:26 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 10/12/2020 8:38 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 2:32:35 AM UTC+11,-a wrote:
    For the first time, watched the Sky coverage on a NowTV day sports
    pass,
    -u9.98, for the Sakhir GP. Good decision for this race!!
    Have to say both the Ch4 and BBC Radio 5 teams knock spots off the
    Sky
    team. Perhaps watch Sky video and listen to BBC Radio??
    And the BBC Chequered Flag podcasts are excellent as well.
    Used Roku Streaming+ stick into a 4K projector and 5.1 sound.
    Brilliant.
    But NowTV stingy with the basic 720 resolution.

    I did have a link to Radio5 that was excellent (I'd mute the Sky
    commentary), but that stopped working. Now I just mute the
    commentary most of the time.
    I reckon they could drop Croft and just have sane coverage from
    Brundle
    or the bloke from Radio5? Was that bloke Ant Davison?

    Does anyone like Croft ?

    build


    Yes, I do, in fact I like the entire Sky team.

    Croft is fluent and enthusiastic although his radio experience
    occasionally
    leads him to forget that we can actually *see* whatrCOs going on.

    ... sometimes more clearly than *he* can - which is what gets my goat.
    I could handle the motormouth at higher volumes when he's excited if
    he wasn't so often wrong when he gets like that.

    (I know it doesn't happen extremely frequently but often enough when
    he's already being annoying so that I'd think twice before pissing on
    him if he were on fire.)

    Of course, the revered Murray Walker was famous for his mistakes. I
    don't know if you were ever a Walker fan, but if you were, seems a bit hypocritical to criticize Croft.

    In my case, my wife can't stand his voice when he gets excited and is
    going a mile a minute. Not that she watches the races, but she can
    hear from the next room. Doesn't bother me, but I do need to watch the
    TV volume at certain times.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 10 08:15:27 2020
    On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:26:20 AM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

    ... sometimes more clearly than *he* can - which is what gets my goat. I could handle the
    motormouth at higher volumes when he's excited if he wasn't so often wrong when he gets like that.

    (I know it doesn't happen extremely frequently but often enough when he's already being annoying so
    that I'd think twice before pissing on him if he were on fire.)

    You have no say in the coverage.
    You pirate your f1 coverage.
    You are a thief.
    And a know it all, mouthpiece,
    deluxe loser, with a chip on his shoulder.
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