• Team Hurts Outcome

    From Heron@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Sep 27 10:09:39 2020
    Team makes wrong call, driver pays, yet again. https://twitter.com/F1/status/1310208579283152897
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  • From Alan Baker@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Sep 27 11:51:02 2020
    On 2020-09-27 8:09 a.m., Heron wrote:
    Team makes wrong call, driver pays, yet again. https://twitter.com/F1/status/1310208579283152897

    You get that it is the driver's job to know the rules and the
    supplementary regulations and instructions that govern a race, right?
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  • From alister@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Sep 27 19:22:27 2020
    On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:51:02 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

    On 2020-09-27 8:09 a.m., Heron wrote:
    Team makes wrong call, driver pays, yet again.
    https://twitter.com/F1/status/1310208579283152897

    You get that it is the driver's job to know the rules and the
    supplementary regulations and instructions that govern a race, right?

    True but when a driver asks the team for confirmation they should also
    have said "No you cant do that here!"

    6 of 1 , half dozen of the other.
    both to blame, Guess they need to stay awake during the driver briefing.




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  • From XYXPDQ@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Sep 27 12:27:49 2020
    Hamilton got back up to third very quickly as expected but then he never got close to Verstappen. Was it simply tire management or did the team not want him over stressing the power unit (hate that term)?
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  • From larkim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Sep 27 12:48:04 2020
    On Sunday, 27 September 2020 at 20:27:51 UTC+1, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Hamilton got back up to third very quickly as expected but then he never got close to Verstappen. Was it simply tire management or did the team not want him over stressing the power unit (hate that term)?
    I wondered that too a little. He was 2.5s ahead of Bottas when he pitted.

    A 10s penalty should have put him 7.5s behind Bottas when the pitstops unwound.

    THough obviously traffic etc gets in the way of that a little.

    He was also on a compromised strategy too with the soft tyre start.
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  • From Alan Baker@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Sep 27 15:40:15 2020
    On 2020-09-27 12:22 p.m., alister wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:51:02 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

    On 2020-09-27 8:09 a.m., Heron wrote:
    Team makes wrong call, driver pays, yet again.
    https://twitter.com/F1/status/1310208579283152897

    You get that it is the driver's job to know the rules and the
    supplementary regulations and instructions that govern a race, right?

    True but when a driver asks the team for confirmation they should also
    have said "No you cant do that here!"

    6 of 1 , half dozen of the other.
    both to blame, Guess they need to stay awake during the driver briefing.
    Hence my comment, where the fangurl put all the blame on the team.
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  • From Colin Stone@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Sep 27 23:03:31 2020
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54319543
    How did Hamilton get it wrong?
    The rules Hamilton was determined to have broken were in two separate places - the race director's event notes and the sporting regulations.
    The event notes say that "practice starts may only be carried out on the right-hand side after the pit exit lights" and that "cars may not stop in the fast lane at any time the pit exit is open without a justifiable reason (a practice start is not considered a justifiable reason)".
    The sporting regulations add that in the pre-race period drivers must "use constant throttle and constant speed in the pit exit".
    As he approached the spot where drivers do their practice starts, Hamilton told engineer Peter Bonnington over the radio that there was a lot of rubber down there.
    He had been told to try to find a spot a little further forward, with minimal rubber, to better reflect conditions on the grid, so the car's electronics could be tuned more accurately.
    So he asked if he could find somewhere else with less rubber and was told he could. The pit lane in Sochi is particularly long, and Hamilton drove right to the end of it, just before it joins the track, before stopping to do his practice start.
    This was not quite what the engineers had intended. Chief engineer Andrew Shovlin said: "Lewis asked if he could go a bit further. We hadn't realised quite how far he was he was going to go."
    They did not see the first start, Shovlin said, adding: "When we saw the second one, we thought: 'They're not going to like that.'"
    So, it turned out.
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Sep 28 22:54:42 2020
    On 28/09/2020 7:03 pm, Colin Stone wrote:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54319543

    How did Hamilton get it wrong?
    The rules Hamilton was determined to have broken were in two separate places - the race director's event notes and the sporting regulations.

    The event notes say that "practice starts may only be carried out on the right-hand side after the pit exit lights" and that "cars may not stop in the fast lane at any time the pit exit is open without a justifiable reason (a practice start is not considered a justifiable reason)".

    The sporting regulations add that in the pre-race period drivers must "use constant throttle and constant speed in the pit exit".

    As he approached the spot where drivers do their practice starts, Hamilton told engineer Peter Bonnington over the radio that there was a lot of rubber down there.

    He had been told to try to find a spot a little further forward, with minimal rubber, to better reflect conditions on the grid, so the car's electronics could be tuned more accurately.

    So he asked if he could find somewhere else with less rubber and was told he could. The pit lane in Sochi is particularly long, and Hamilton drove right to the end of it, just before it joins the track, before stopping to do his practice start.

    This was not quite what the engineers had intended. Chief engineer Andrew Shovlin said: "Lewis asked if he could go a bit further. We hadn't realised quite how far he was he was going to go."

    They did not see the first start, Shovlin said, adding: "When we saw the second one, we thought: 'They're not going to like that.'"

    So, it turned out.


    Must have really made your day in an otherwise fairly blaaa race.

    A pity VER and/or RB was so unimpressive. Could have made it more fun if
    able to put a bit more pressure on BOT.

    geoff
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Sep 28 10:41:35 2020
    On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 3:54:51 AM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    Must have really made your day

    Why are you concerned with other people's day?
    That's weird and creepy and fucking gay.
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