Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
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Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever know.
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever know.
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that he is
not proposed as being 'up there' often enough.
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever know.
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that he is
not proposed as being 'up there' often enough.
geoff
On 2020-10-06 2:12 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/ >>>>
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever know. >>>
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that he is
not proposed as being 'up there' often enough.
He mentions absolutely nothing like that, Geoff.
On 7/10/2020 10:19 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 2:12 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/ >>>>>
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever
know.
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that he
is not proposed as being 'up there' often enough.
He mentions absolutely nothing like that, Geoff.
Um, where did I suggest that he *mentioned* that ? Would you imagine
that if he felt that way that he would mention it ?!!!
On 2020-10-06 3:46 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 10:19 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 2:12 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever
know.
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that he
is not proposed as being 'up there' often enough.
He mentions absolutely nothing like that, Geoff.
Um, where did I suggest that he *mentioned* that ? Would you imagine
that if he felt that way that he would mention it ?!!!
What were you trying to say, Geoff?
Are you trying to denigrate Jackie Stewart?
:-)
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever know.
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that he is not proposed as being 'up
there' often enough.
(Others, like Alan Baker were never going
to make the grade so stayed in the sport on a club level.)
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville
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The same winnowing process outlined above for karts then happened with
cars. Maybe one in a hundred was competitive with the others dropping by
the wayside. (Others, like Alan Baker were never going to make the grade
so stayed in the sport on a club level.)
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville
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On 7/10/2020 10:12 am, geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:I said earlier that this evolution of motor sport was a gradual
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/ [...]
process. You can draw a line on a graph from Fangio to Hamilton
showing the number of drivers that they had to beat to get to the
top. This is something that Jackie Stewart doesn't get. Fangio was a
very big fish in a very small pond. Jim Clark was the biggest fish in
the Thames. Senna was the biggest fish in the Amazon. Schumacher was
the biggest fish in the Mediterranean. Hamilton is the biggest fish in
all of the oceans.
On 7/10/2020 12:46 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 3:46 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 10:19 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 2:12 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever >>>>>> know.
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that he >>>>> is not proposed as being 'up there' often enough.
He mentions absolutely nothing like that, Geoff.
Um, where did I suggest that he *mentioned* that ? Would you imagine
that if he felt that way that he would mention it ?!!!
What were you trying to say, Geoff?
Are you trying to denigrate Jackie Stewart?
:-)
Absolutely ;-)
geoff
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
On 7/10/2020 10:12 am, geoff wrote:[...]
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
I said earlier that this evolution of motor sport was a gradual
process. You can draw a line on a graph from Fangio to Hamilton
showing the number of drivers that they had to beat to get to the
top. This is something that Jackie Stewart doesn't get. Fangio was a
very big fish in a very small pond. Jim Clark was the biggest fish in
the Thames. Senna was the biggest fish in the Amazon. Schumacher was
the biggest fish in the Mediterranean. Hamilton is the biggest fish in
all of the oceans.
I fear that your opinion may be somewhat unpopular, but up to choice of scaling factors I concur wholeheartedly.
The same has occured in all sports where there's been lower barriers to
entry over time, and thus a wider hinterland whence to trawl for talent.
For example, in another traditional "gentelman's sport", snooker,
arguably: Ronnie O'Sullivan >> Stephen Hendry >> Ray Reardon >> Joe Davis.
However, one mustn't overlook the fact that motor racing is quite a
different sport nowadays, and there's no certainty that many of today's relative snowflakes would have had the balls to even be willing to participate in the smelly, dirty, killy, sport of yore.
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
On 7/10/2020 12:55 pm, geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 12:46 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 3:46 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 10:19 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 2:12 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll
ever know.
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that
he is not proposed as being 'up there' often enough.
He mentions absolutely nothing like that, Geoff.
Um, where did I suggest that he *mentioned* that ? Would you imagine
that if he felt that way that he would mention it ?!!!
What were you trying to say, Geoff?
Are you trying to denigrate Jackie Stewart?
:-)
Absolutely ;-)
geoff
Actually he would have trouble admitting that anybody taller than him
could be any good. Which broadens the field of non-achievers
substantially !
On 7/10/2020 5:03 am, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-10-06 8:50 a.m., Heron wrote:
Hamilton not on F1's best-ever list - Stewart
https://racer.com/2020/10/06/hamilton-not-on-f1s-best-ever-list-stewart/
He leaves Schumacher of his list, fangurl...
...and Stewart has forgotten more about F1 racing that you'll ever know.
His view being valid or not, I think Jackie's main issue is that he is
not proposed as being 'up there' often enough.
As for being popular I gave up on that years ago as a fools
game. I only aim to please myself and my loved ones, anyone else can take it or leave it (my
opinion that is) as they see fit. No skin off my nose. ;)
Another factor that increases the numbers of people in these 'non-essential' professions has been
the increasing mechanisation of production, freeing people up to do 'frivolous' things to make a
living. It's a subject been on my mind a lot of late, watching which businesses are struggling
during these trying times. I know a guy who used to say 'get a job in farming or food production,
you'll never be out of work'. He wasn't far from the mark.
I fully agree with that also and indeed intended to address it. However I'd written quite a bit and
had other matters to see to at the time so left that part out.
While I'm being unpopular:
Cheers,
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville
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While I'm being unpopular:
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville
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