I've just had a run of annoying jobs where the holes in the shoes didn't line up with the existing footplates and so on.
Sometimes it is a completely different pattern. Sometimes it is simply an annoyingly large variance from a 'standard'. Sometimes the holes are mounted at different levels on the shoe sole (up to 2cm in height difference).
It's maddening!
There are a few slotted footplate designs that eliminate a few of the issues, but these are not always available for every boat size or brand, nor do they always solve every issue.
I've got a couple of company issued templates and I've devised a couple from measurements, but I thought there might be some worth in an effort to create a library of shared resources.
If anyone has any templates they'd like to share, I'll collate them and upload them somewhere shared for all to use.
I'll probably do a simple PDF at first, but if I can find the time I'll draft them into CAD.
You mean there are templates? I always assumed it was some bloke with a pencil tucked behind his ear saying 'tha'll do...'.
On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 9:50:23 AM UTC, Andy McKenzie wrote:
You mean there are templates? I always assumed it was some bloke with a pencil tucked behind his ear saying 'tha'll do...'.Yes. Actual templates. Rare as hen's teeth though.
I've met the bloke you imagined. And his mate. They don't use the pencil to mark out the job, that's all done by Mk1 eyeball. The pencil is for the crossword at morning tea.
On the shoe theme...the single most compelling reason to buy a good impact driver is the removal of the screws holding shoes to footplates (I'm guessing steel screws through aluminium plate into brass threads sets up all sorts of corrosion).
I've just had a run of annoying jobs where the holes in the shoes didn't line up with the existing footplates and so on.
Sometimes it is a completely different pattern. Sometimes it is simply an annoyingly large variance from a 'standard'. Sometimes the holes are mounted at different levels on the shoe sole (up to 2cm in height difference).
It's maddening!
There are a few slotted footplate designs that eliminate a few of the issues, but these are not always available for every boat size or brand, nor do they always solve every issue.
I've got a couple of company issued templates and I've devised a couple from measurements, but I thought there might be some worth in an effort to create a library of shared resources.
If anyone has any templates they'd like to share, I'll collate them and upload them somewhere shared for all to use.
I'll probably do a simple PDF at first, but if I can find the time I'll draft them into CAD.
Clogs are the way forward, for all sorts of reasons!Couldn't agree more! Why don't more clubs / rowers / boat-builders consider this simple, safe and inexpensive option? Forget old-fashioned leather clogs with brass or plastic heel cups - surely modern materials lend themselves to a solution that provides adequate support while rowing, yet enables more or less instant release in the event of a capsize. Or have we become totally fixated on fitted shoes being the only possible solution?
On Tuesday, 1 December 2020 at 20:30:46 UTC, Phil wrote:
Clogs are the way forward, for all sorts of reasons!
Couldn't agree more! Why don't more clubs / rowers / boat-builders consider this simple, safe and inexpensive option? Forget old-fashioned leather clogs with brass or plastic heel cups - surely modern materials lend themselves to a solution that provides adequate support while rowing, yet enables more or less instant release in the event of a capsize. Or have we become totally fixated on fitted shoes being the only possible solution?
On 01/12/2020 21:52, Richard wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 December 2020 at 20:30:46 UTC, Phil wrote:
Clogs are the way forward, for all sorts of reasons!
Couldn't agree more! Why don't more clubs / rowers / boat-builders consider this simple, safe and inexpensive option? Forget old-fashioned leather clogs with brass or plastic heel cups - surely modern materials lend themselves to a solution that provides adequate support while rowing, yet enables more or less instant release in the event of a capsize. Or have we become totally fixated on fitted shoes being the only possible solution?
I, too regret the passing of clogs! But back to shoes:
I understand the concern over shoe bolt positions, but any reputable
shoe supplier provides, as we always have at CDRS, a template precisely defining shoe-bolt positions.
On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 6:40:33 PM UTC, carl wrote:
On 01/12/2020 21:52, Richard wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 December 2020 at 20:30:46 UTC, Phil wrote:I, too regret the passing of clogs! But back to shoes:
Clogs are the way forward, for all sorts of reasons!
Couldn't agree more! Why don't more clubs / rowers / boat-builders consider this simple, safe and inexpensive option? Forget old-fashioned leather clogs with brass or plastic heel cups - surely modern materials lend themselves to a solution that provides adequate support while rowing, yet enables more or less instant release in the event of a capsize. Or have we become totally fixated on fitted shoes being the only possible solution?
I understand the concern over shoe bolt positions, but any reputable
shoe supplier provides, as we always have at CDRS, a template precisely
defining shoe-bolt positions.
I think the market has spoken about the clog issue in racing boats!
The problem I face often eludes Carl's answer. Even his company has changed shoe supplier over the years so a footplate in a 30 year old CD scull can be a hassle with new shoes! Many old footplates actually only have 3 holes drilled or only 3 bolts installed! I have even faced the issue of a rower having a preference for a different shoe to the one that actually fits the boat.
Quite a few shoe makers are actually unable to provide a drawing or details of the hole pattern when asked! I know - I've asked.
Separate shoe plates (from the footboard) can be one way to solve some of the issues, but even that isn't universal to all boat types and has drawbacks of it's own.
I've started by taking pencil rubbings from the bottom of the shoes I have in the workshop (no flat bed copier there) that look pretty accurate.
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