• Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals

    From Mr Gobrien@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 02:36:47 2021

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all dispute.

    Check MSM for more.
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 10:57:54 2021
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the race. LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 11:08:25 2021
    Sir Tim wrote:

    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the race. LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs in
    order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly meant until
    claimed otherwise on Sunday.

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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 08:58:58 2021
    On 12/16/2021 5:36 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    Toto bound and gagged.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 13:13:39 2021
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the race. LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 13:14:14 2021
    On 2021-12-16 6:08 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Sir Tim wrote:

    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the race.
    LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs in
    order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly meant until claimed otherwise on Sunday.

    It must be nice to be omniscient.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 18:41:19 2021
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the race. LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite clear, Masi
    made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.

    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 14:09:10 2021
    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
    all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the
    race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?

    Seriously, I'm amazed how so many of you always know everything that
    happens behind the scenes.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 19:41:25 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 6:08 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Sir Tim wrote:

    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the
    race. LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs in
    order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly meant
    until claimed otherwise on Sunday.

    It must be nice to be omniscient.

    "omniscient", really... and there was me thinking you knew fuck all.

    --
    Bozo bin
    Build
    Texasgate
    Enjoy!
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 19:44:39 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the race. LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi

    Scapegoat the guy who totally screwed up, ignoring the regs it is his
    job to ensure are enforced making the whole sport look incompetent an
    his bosses claim the sport had been tarnished...

    So you pretend to know what "omniscient" means but are clueless as to
    what scapegoat means.

    I am not shocked.

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    Build
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    Enjoy!
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 19:45:38 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
    all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the
    race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.

    --
    Bozo bin
    Build
    Texasgate
    Enjoy!
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 11:50:27 2021
    On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 12:09:13 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    I'm amazed how so many of you always know everything that
    happens behind the scenes.

    im amazed you are so fucking stupid
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 19:48:56 2021
    On 2021-12-16 2:44 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the race.
    LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi

    Scapegoat the guy who totally screwed up, ignoring the regs it is his
    job to ensure are enforced making the whole sport look incompetent an
    his bosses claim the sport had been tarnished...

    The bosses are claiming that publicly, but that's why Masi exists:

    The shield them.


    So you pretend to know what "omniscient" means but are clueless as to
    what scapegoat means.

    I am not shocked.

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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 19:50:00 2021
    On 2021-12-16 2:41 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 6:08 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Sir Tim wrote:

    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the
    race. LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs in
    order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly meant
    until claimed otherwise on Sunday.

    It must be nice to be omniscient.

    "omniscient", really... and there was me thinking you knew fuck all.


    I was referring to your absolute surety that "they have always clearly
    meant" something and the omniscience that it must take to know that
    they've never been varied from before.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 16 19:50:40 2021
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
    all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the
    race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did
    what he did "off his own bat"?
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 08:46:50 2021
    Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
    all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the
    race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did what he did "off his own bat"?


    He was the *Race Director* FFS.
    Or do you think that in addition to fending off Toto and Christian he was
    also being programmed from Paris and Colorado? Really?

    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 23:59:41 2021
    On 17/12/2021 1:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
    all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the
    race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did what he did "off his own bat"?

    To channel you - Prove that he didn't .

    geoff
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 11:42:13 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:41 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 6:08 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Sir Tim wrote:

    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the race. LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    I expect them to contrive a minor rewrite off the relevant regs
    in order that they clearly mean what they have always clearly
    meant until claimed otherwise on Sunday.

    It must be nice to be omniscient.

    "omniscient", really... and there was me thinking you knew fuck all.


    I was referring to your absolute surety that "they have always
    clearly meant" something

    Yup, there is very little disagreement about that. In fact you are the
    only one outside of RBR who I have seen claim that the "any" in the reg
    could possibly have been intended to mean or has ever been implemented
    as anything but all those fitting the criteria.

    and the omniscience that it must take to
    know that they've never been varied from before.

    Yet again you are making very little sense. and are just proving
    yourself an argumentative twat, TOTY.

    If you can show that the regs have ever previously been interpreted as
    they were abused on Sunday you have the floor; personally I think you
    have been used to wipe it.

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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 11:45:18 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of
    the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
    did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
    to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
    anyone else's.

    --
    Bozo bin
    Build
    Texasgate
    Enjoy!
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 11:48:53 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:44 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
    all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the
    race. LetrCOs hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi

    Scapegoat the guy who totally screwed up, ignoring the regs it is
    his job to ensure are enforced making the whole sport look
    incompetent an his bosses claim the sport had been tarnished...

    The bosses are claiming that publicly, but that's why Masi exists:

    The shield them.


    One of your more asinine assertions.

    We may have to develop a Baker scale for asinine assertions.

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    Bozo bin
    Build
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 10:13:09 2021
    On 2021-12-17 3:46 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
    all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the >>>>>>> race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did
    what he did "off his own bat"?


    He was the *Race Director* FFS.

    Appointed by god... ...or just hired by the FIA?

    Do you think that he carries out his duties without instructios from the
    FIA?


    Or do you think that in addition to fending off Toto and Christian he was also being programmed from Paris and Colorado? Really?

    No. But I do think that the people who sign his paycheques and who can
    FIRE him make it known how they would like him to run things.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 10:13:55 2021
    On 2021-12-17 5:59 a.m., geoff wrote:
    On 17/12/2021 1:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond
    all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the >>>>>>> race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
    did what he did "off his own bat"?

    To channel you - Prove that he didn't .

    No.

    The one who claims he did it "off his own bat" with no way they could
    possibly know it is the one who should proffer proof.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 10:14:32 2021
    On 2021-12-17 6:45 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of
    the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
    did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
    to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
    anyone else's.


    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Matt Larkin@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 08:33:39 2021
    On Friday, 17 December 2021 at 15:14:34 UTC, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-17 6:45 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of >>>>>>> the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
    did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
    to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were anyone else's.

    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
    Occam's razor would probably disagree with you in this case.
    If the crash was one lap later, or one lap earlier, none of this would have any controversy at all. Either Lewis would have definitely won under SC conditions or the "normal" protocol would have been followed and Max would have gained
    the tyre advantage to overtake as he did.
    There is no way on this earth that Masi had a pre-planned strategy for this niche scenario, and thus the most likely explanation is that he made a
    rapid evaluation on the spot of the best way to "go racing" again before the end of the race.
    He might have had a note in his pocket from Liberty saying "Do whatever
    you are allowed to to make it interesting". But that's as far as outside influence on this is likely to have extended.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 11:46:21 2021
    On 2021-12-17 11:33 a.m., Matt Larkin wrote:
    On Friday, 17 December 2021 at 15:14:34 UTC, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-17 6:45 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of >>>>>>>>> the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
    did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
    to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
    anyone else's.

    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
    Occam's razor would probably disagree with you in this case.


    No. It wouldn't.

    Occam's Razor would agree that the simplest explanation is that
    employees follow the wishes over their employers.


    If the crash was one lap later, or one lap earlier, none of this would have any
    controversy at all. Either Lewis would have definitely won under SC conditions
    or the "normal" protocol would have been followed and Max would have gained the tyre advantage to overtake as he did.

    There is no way on this earth that Masi had a pre-planned strategy for this niche scenario, and thus the most likely explanation is that he made a
    rapid evaluation on the spot of the best way to "go racing" again before the end of the race.

    I'm not suggesting that there was a specific, pre-planned strategy for
    this (or for any) scenario.

    I'm suggesting that his bosses would have made their wishes known for
    there being a finish to the season that didn't involve the championship
    being won under a yellow flag and preferably, a finish that had both contenders racing each other at the end.



    He might have had a note in his pocket from Liberty saying "Do whatever
    you are allowed to to make it interesting". But that's as far as outside influence on this is likely to have extended.

    If you received such a note, would you not have asked "How far would you
    like me to take that?". I would.

    Why else do you think it has come to light that there was a specific
    agreement between the Race Director and the teams for this event only
    about it being a "priority" that any safety car period near the end of
    the race would be ended as quickly as possible?

    Again, Occam's Razor suggests that there had to be some cause for that agreement to have been discussed and agreed.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 20:55:40 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-17 3:46 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end
    of the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are
    quite clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off
    his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that
    he did what he did "off his own bat"?


    He was the *Race Director* FFS.

    Appointed by god... ...or just hired by the FIA?

    Do you think that he carries out his duties without instructios from
    the FIA?

    You ask such childish questions.

    You ask the question as if he and "the FIA" are 2 entities.



    Or do you think that in addition to fending off Toto and Christian
    he was also being programmed from Paris and Colorado? Really?

    No. But I do think that the people who sign his paycheques and who
    can FIRE him make it known how they would like him to run things.

    Which you think has what exactly to do with his mishandling of the end
    of the race on Sunday; which his bosses have admitted tarnished the
    sport?

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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 20:57:49 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-17 5:59 a.m., geoff wrote:
    On 17/12/2021 1:50 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end
    of the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are
    quite clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off
    his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that
    he did what he did "off his own bat"?

    To channel you - Prove that he didn't .

    No.

    The one who claims he did it "off his own bat" with no way they could possibly know it is the one who should proffer proof.

    No proof needed. There is no evidence of anything else and no reason to suspect.

    Your lack of evidence or anything remotely intelligent to add only
    points in the same direction

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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 21:02:53 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-17 6:45 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end
    of the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are
    quite clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off
    his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that
    he did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb
    enough to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written
    procedures were anyone else's.


    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

    Lack of evidence or an kind of intelligent argument is pretty damning.


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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 21:05:24 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-17 11:33 a.m., Matt Larkin wrote:
    On Friday, 17 December 2021 at 15:14:34 UTC, Alan wrote:
    On 2021-12-17 6:45 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now
    champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the
    end of the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC
    are quite clear, Masi made the decision to overrule
    them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all
    that he did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb
    enough to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written
    procedures were anyone else's.

    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
    Occam's razor would probably disagree with you in this case.


    No. It wouldn't.

    Occam's Razor would agree that the simplest explanation is that
    employees follow the wishes over their employers.


    Which in Masi's case is to do the job the employed him for as RD.

    You are arguing against your own insanity.


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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 13:46:46 2021
    On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 2:05:26 PM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:

    You are arguing against your own insanity.

    x2
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 23:06:42 2021
    Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-17 3:46 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond >>>>>>>>> all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the >>>>>>>> race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did >>> what he did "off his own bat"?


    He was the *Race Director* FFS.

    Appointed by god... ...or just hired by the FIA?

    Do you think that he carries out his duties without instructios from the FIA?


    Or do you think that in addition to fending off Toto and Christian he was
    also being programmed from Paris and Colorado? Really?

    No. But I do think that the people who sign his paycheques and who can
    FIRE him make it known how they would like him to run things.


    Okay, so it sounds like you now accept that what what Masi did contravened
    the regulations but you maintain that he is a mere puppet controlled by the
    FIA or Liberty, in which case he definitely ought to resign as Race
    Director, if only for his own self respect.

    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 16:03:38 2021
    On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 4:06:45 PM UTC-7, Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-17 3:46 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <no...@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ beyond >>>>>>>>> all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of the >>>>>>>> race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite >>>>>> clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he did >>> what he did "off his own bat"?


    He was the *Race Director* FFS.

    Appointed by god... ...or just hired by the FIA?

    Do you think that he carries out his duties without instructios from the FIA?


    Or do you think that in addition to fending off Toto and Christian he was >> also being programmed from Paris and Colorado? Really?

    No. But I do think that the people who sign his paycheques and who can FIRE him make it known how they would like him to run things.

    Okay, so it sounds like you now accept that what what Masi did contravened the regulations but you maintain that he is a mere puppet controlled by the FIA or Liberty, in which case he definitely ought to resign as Race Director, if only for his own self respect.

    --
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 16:15:28 2021
    On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 4:06:45 PM UTC-7, Sir Tim wrote:

    Okay, so it sounds like you now accept that what what Masi did contravened the regulations but you maintain that he is a mere puppet controlled by the FIA or Liberty, in which case he definitely ought to resign as Race Director, if only for his own self respect.

    get a life troll
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Dec 18 14:13:36 2021
    On 18/12/2021 12:45 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of
    the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
    did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
    to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
    anyone else's.



    Clearly they convened a committee to investigate the different
    possibilities for ending the race. Invitations sent out to all relevant parties, current rules analysed, discussions had and conclusions made,
    minutes prepared and approved - all subject to appeal. No appeals so
    rulebook re-written to include this novel permutation, and the finish sequence invoked.

    Easy-peasy.

    geoff

    geoff
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 18:30:02 2021
    On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 6:13:47 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:

    Clearly they convened a committee to investigate the different
    possibilities for ending the race. Invitations sent out to all relevant parties, current rules analysed, discussions had and conclusions made, minutes prepared and approved - all subject to appeal. No appeals so rulebook re-written to include this novel permutation, and the finish sequence invoked.

    lol
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 17 18:35:15 2021
    On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 6:13:47 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:

    Clearly they convened a committee to investigate the different
    possibilities for ending the race. Invitations sent out to all relevant parties, current rules analysed, discussions had and conclusions made, minutes prepared and approved - all subject to appeal. No appeals so rulebook re-written to include this novel permutation, and the finish sequence invoked.

    Easy-peasy.

    alan is masturbating to that reply now
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Dec 18 15:42:35 2021
    On 2021-12-17 8:13 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 18/12/2021 12:45 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now champ
    beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the end of
    the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are quite
    clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all that he
    did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb enough
    to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written procedures were
    anyone else's.



    Clearly they convened a committee to investigate the different
    possibilities for ending the race. Invitations sent out to all relevant parties, current rules analysed, discussions had and conclusions made, minutes prepared and approved - all subject to appeal. No appeals so rulebook re-written to include this novel-a permutation, and the finish sequence invoked.

    Clearly, there was an agreement made between the teams and the race
    director that was in some way out of the ordinary...

    ...because if it wasn't, there would be no need for the agreement.

    How far out of the ordinary it went, I don't know.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Dec 18 12:55:35 2021
    On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 1:42:37 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    I don't know.

    fuck all
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 19 14:15:52 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-17 8:13 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 18/12/2021 12:45 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 2:45 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-16 1:41 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-16 5:57 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Mr Gobrien <mr_gobrien@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Latest - Mercedes abandon all appeals - Max now
    champ beyond all
    dispute.

    Check MSM for more.


    A sensible decision by Mercedes.

    The FIA is to conduct a rCLdetailed analysisrCY of the
    end of the race.
    LetrCOs
    hope it is not a whitewash.

    Let's hope they don't choose to scapegoat Masi


    A scapegoat for who? The regulations regarding the SC are
    quite clear, Masi made the decision to overrule them off
    his own bat.
    And you know that... ...how?


    Like millions he watched happen live, you clueless dildo.


    And what in that live broadcast provided any evidence at all
    that he did what he did "off his own bat"?

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Even you hadn't been dumb
    enough to suggest the decisions taken to ignore the written
    procedures were anyone else's.



    Clearly they convened a committee to investigate the different possibilities for ending the race. Invitations sent out to all
    relevant parties, current rules analysed, discussions had and
    conclusions made, minutes prepared and approved - all subject to
    appeal. No appeals so rulebook re-written to include this novel-a permutation, and the finish sequence invoked.

    Clearly, there was an agreement made between the teams and the race
    director that was in some way out of the ordinary...


    ...or not at all.

    ...because if it wasn't, there would be no need for the agreement.

    Fallacious argument. They are always making agreements. For instance,
    we have been told all year of agreements the drivers supposedly make
    with each other and with the RD during drivers meeting.
    What rational do you have to suppose hat such things have not happened
    many times in the past.

    We know they have agreed with the RD/stewards to err on the side of
    "letting them race".

    To infer any agreement was significant (or in any way binding) enough
    to amend the implementation of the regulation is beyond any known
    evidence and indeed contradicts the evidence. Significantly no such
    agreement has been mentioned by any of the parties in considering the
    protest.


    How far out of the ordinary it went, I don't know.

    Those last three words have been doing a lot of the heavy lifting in
    most of your assertions lately.

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