...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps pressured
into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
...it's just too bad
Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps pressured
into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Eh? What is it that you think only you in your conceited little world
"get"?
I think perhaps you have twisted things in your silly little head.
If you are so in sync with Toto then perhaps you "get" that he blames
the RD for a bad decision and that he is not up to the job.
rCLStefano [Domenicali, F1 CEO] is a real racing man and would not be interested in intervening in the races for the entertainment factor.
rCLI canrCOt judge the pressure the race director is under at the time, but the rules are the rules.rCY
You get that those comments confirm what I was saying, right?
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps pressured
into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps pressured
into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race fizzle
out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Did you read what was in the article?
I think you're reading something that isn't there.
On 2022-01-05 11:16 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Eh? What is it that you think only you in your conceited little
world "get"?
I think perhaps you have twisted things in your silly little head.
If you are so in sync with Toto then perhaps you "get" that he
blames the RD for a bad decision and that he is not up to the job.
rCLStefano [Domenicali, F1 CEO] is a real racing man and would not be interested in intervening in the races for the entertainment factor.
rCLI canrCOt judge the pressure the race director is under at the time,
but the rules are the rules.rCY
You get that those comments confirm what I was saying, right?
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race
fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio
message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race
fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio message
was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed about
the culpability of the RD, right?
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race
fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio message
was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed about
the culpability of the RD, right?
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes (or in
this case days) after he has lost the argument
On 2022-01-09 2:45 a.m., alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the
race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio
message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed
about the culpability of the RD, right?
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes
(or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
I don't see how pointing out the obvious that you all seem to miss is
saying "another thing".
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-09 2:45 a.m., alister wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the
race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio
message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed
about the culpability of the RD, right?
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes
(or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
I don't see how pointing out the obvious that you all seem to miss is
saying "another thing".
Yet that is not what you have done, is it.
If you thought you had you wouldn't continue to be so mealy mouthed.
On 2022-01-10 5:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-09 2:45 a.m., alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling out
via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dr
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let
the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about
that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you
claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes
(or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
I don't see how pointing out the obvious that you all seem to
miss is saying "another thing".
Yet that is not what you have done, is it.
If you thought you had you wouldn't continue to be so mealy mouthed.
How is what I said, "mealy mouthed"?
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-10 5:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-09 2:45 a.m., alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling out
via race car.'
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-
dr ama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let
the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about
that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you
claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
I don't see how pointing out the obvious that you all seem to
miss is saying "another thing".
Yet that is not what you have done, is it.
If you thought you had you wouldn't continue to be so mealy
mouthed.
How is what I said, "mealy mouthed"?
...because you have said nothing lucid or rational and you refuse to
answer any questions which seek to clarify your comments.
You have posted one falsely attributed quote and an unsupported
nonsensical claim.
Indeed you have referenced an article that contradicts your previous
position claiming it does the opposite.
If you disagree you are mealy mouthed then state clearly what you are attempting to convey by your confused and inaccurate OP.
<crickets>
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race
fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio message >> > was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes (or in
this case days) after he has lost the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the HamFans.
If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only non-HamFan here.
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes (or in
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race
fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio message >>>>> was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed about
the culpability of the RD, right?
this case days) after he has lost the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the HamFans.
If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only non-HamFan here.
No he has not lost the argument.
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
race >> > fizzle out under a safety car"On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilt
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.'
on-
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-drama>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the
message >> > was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimedBaker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes
about the culpability of the RD, right?
(or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only non-HamFan
here.
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race
car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dram
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the
race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything youBaker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes
claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
(or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only
non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being in
the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
championship he's won.
He had plenty of opportunity to respond to arguments but chose to run
away instead, He has then raised his head again with the nonsensical
OP, making invalid claims and has again run away without responding to requests that he make his case instead of being mealy mouthed.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of the
team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
margin).
--
Bozo bin
Felicity
George R
Irving S
Texasgate
Enjoy!
Felicity
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race
car.'
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutesMax-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dram
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the
race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you
claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
(or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only
non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being in
the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of the
team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
margin).
Give an example of this.
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling out
via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-
dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let
the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about
that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything youBaker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only
non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being
in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of
the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a margin).
Give an example of this.
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling out
via race car.'
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-
dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let
the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners
radio message was brodcast so there is no doubt about
that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you
claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only
non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being
in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of
the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
margin).
Give an example of this.
If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless as to
any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you again but
commit first.
On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling
out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dh
abi- dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not
let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
(Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no
doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everythingBaker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the
argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by
the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the
only non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by
being in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much
every championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution
of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has
often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often
by quite a margin).
Give an example of this.
If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless as to
any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you again but
commit first.
If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without the
song and dance.
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was
perhaps pressured into stopping the race fizzling
out via race car.'
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dh
abi- dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not
let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
(Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no
doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything
you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the
argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by
the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the
only non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by
being in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much
every championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution
of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has
often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often
by quite a margin).
Give an example of this.
If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless as to
any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you again but
commit first.
If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without the
song and dance.
No, song and dance.
Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.
On 2022-01-19 2:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird
wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes
Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping the
race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Ab
u-Dh abi- dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to
"not let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
(Horners radio message was brodcast so there is
no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradictingBaker is simply an old man saying "And another thing"
everything you claimed about the culpability of the
RD, right?
30 minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost
the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned
out by the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems
he is the only non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven
by being in the best car (often by a good margin) in
pretty much every championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the
contribution of the team and car while also failing to
recognise that he has often performed extremely well when
not in the best car (often by quite a margin).
Give an example of this.
If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless
as to any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you
again but commit first.
If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without
the song and dance.
No, song and dance.
Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.
I asked you for an example.
This is the second time you've replied without giving one.
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-19 2:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird
wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes
Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping the
race fizzling out via race car.'
Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing"Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Ab
u-Dh abi- dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to
"not let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
(Horners radio message was brodcast so there is
no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting
everything you claimed about the culpability of the
RD, right?
30 minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost
the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned
out by the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems
he is the only non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven
by being in the best car (often by a good margin) in
pretty much every championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the
contribution of the team and car while also failing to
recognise that he has often performed extremely well when
not in the best car (often by quite a margin).
Give an example of this.
If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are clueless
as to any such instances then I am happy to make a fool of you
again but commit first.
If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so without
the song and dance.
No, song and dance.
Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.
I asked you for an example.
This is the second time you've replied without giving one.
I have asked you for your reason for needing one.
On 2022-01-20 3:02 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-19 2:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-19 2:10 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11,
alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird
wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan
wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes
Masi was perhaps pressured into stopping
the race fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-lates
t-Ab u-Dh abi- dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured
to "not let the race fizzle out under a
safety car" Red bull were doing a lot of
that pressurizing (Horners radio message
was brodcast so there is no doubt about
that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from
above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradictingBaker is simply an old man saying "And another
everything you claimed about the culpability of
the RD, right?
thing" 30 minutes (or in this case days) after he
has lost the argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned
out by the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it
seems he is the only non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely
driven by being in the best car (often by a good
margin) in pretty much every championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the
contribution of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often performed extremely well
when not in the best car (often by quite a margin).
Give an example of this.
If you are claiming that it is not so or that you are
clueless as to any such instances then I am happy to make a
fool of you again but commit first.
If you were happy to provide a cite, you'd have done so
without the song and dance.
No, song and dance.
Do I need to? Are you clueless? Yes or no.
I asked you for an example.
This is the second time you've replied without giving one.
I have asked you for your reason for needing one.
Because I think you're full of shit.
So produce your example.
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:Give an example of this.
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton- >>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dram a> >>>>>>>>
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps
pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.' >>>>>>>>>
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of theI'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes (or >>>>> in this case days) after he has lost the argumentI would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race >>>>>>>> fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio
message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed
about the culpability of the RD, right?
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only non-HamFan
here.
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being in
the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
championship he's won.
team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
margin).
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:48:51 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:Give an example of this.
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton- >>>>>>>>> Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dhabi-dram a> >>>>>>>>>
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi was perhaps >>>>>>>>>> pressured into stopping the race fizzling out via race car.' >>>>>>>>>>
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution of theI'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30 minutes (or >>>>>> in this case days) after he has lost the argumentI would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not let the race >>>>>>>>> fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing (Horners radio >>>>>>>>> message was brodcast so there is no doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything you claimed >>>>>>> about the culpability of the RD, right?
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by the
HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the only non-HamFan >>>>> here.
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by being in
the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much every
championship he's won.
team and car while also failing to recognise that he has often
performed extremely well when not in the best car (often by quite a
margin).
Lewis has won at least 1 GP every season, Including those with McClaren after their downturn & Merc in 2013 before their climb to dominance. that must count for something.
On 2022-01-23 4:15 a.m., alister wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:48:51 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi
was perhaps pressured into stopping the race
fizzling out via race car.'
Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dh abi-dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not
let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
(Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no
doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everythingBaker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30
you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the
argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by
the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the
only non-HamFan here.
I'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by
being in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much
every championship he's won.
You say that as if most people don't recognise the contribution
of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has
often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often
by quite a margin).
Give an example of this.
Lewis has won at least 1 GP every season, Including those with
McClaren after their downturn & Merc in 2013 before their climb to dominance. that must count for something.
Again, that would only matter if I'm claiming that Hamilton's success
is ONLY due to the cars he's had...
...and I'm not.
But while he was better than this teammate, Heikki Kovalainen, in
2009 and 2008, it wasn't like he was winning in the McLaren and
Kovalainen wasn't in the points. Saying Hamilton is better than
Kovaleinen is NOT saying that Hamilton is the greatest that ever was.
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-23 4:15 a.m., alister wrote:<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1545056/Lewis-Hamilton-
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:48:51 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-15 5:21 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-14 4:29 p.m., build wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:45:26 PM UTC+11, alister
wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:24:19 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 2:06 p.m., alister wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:43:32 -0800, Alan wrote:
...it's just too bad so many of you don't.
'Wolff refutes this, although he believes Masi
was perhaps pressured into stopping the race
fizzling out via race car.'
Give an example of this.You say that as if most people don't recognise the contributionI'm not particularly a Hamilton fan...Baker is simply an old man saying "And another thing" 30Max-Verstappen-Toto-Wolff-Michael-Masi-latest-Abu-Dh
abi-dram a>
I would agree that Masi was being pressured to "not
let the race fizzle out under a safety car"
Red bull were doing a lot of that pressurizing
(Horners radio message was brodcast so there is no
doubt about that)
Did you read what was in the article?
Toto was clearly referring to pressure from above.
Toto?
Quote what Toto said that makes that "clear".
You understand that Toto was contradicting everything
you claimed about the culpability of the RD, right?
minutes (or in this case days) after he has lost the
argument
No he has not lost the argument. He has been drowned out by
the HamFans. If you have not noticed, it seems he is the
only non-HamFan here.
...but I don't hate him or even dislike him.
I just recognize that his success has been hugely driven by
being in the best car (often by a good margin) in pretty much
every championship he's won.
of the team and car while also failing to recognise that he has
often performed extremely well when not in the best car (often
by quite a margin).
Lewis has won at least 1 GP every season, Including those with
McClaren after their downturn & Merc in 2013 before their climb to
dominance. that must count for something.
Again, that would only matter if I'm claiming that Hamilton's success
is ONLY due to the cars he's had...
...and I'm not.
But while he was better than this teammate, Heikki Kovalainen, in
2009 and 2008, it wasn't like he was winning in the McLaren and
Kovalainen wasn't in the points. Saying Hamilton is better than
Kovaleinen is NOT saying that Hamilton is the greatest that ever was.
You do like moving those goalposts, don't you.
How was the goalpost moved?
The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has been
mostly driven by him being in the best car.
And that's still true.
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:42:54 -0800, Alan wrote:
The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has been
mostly driven by him being in the best car.
And that's still true.
Q) how exactly do you get to be in the best car?
A) By making the team that produces the best car think you are the best driver available to them.
And that's usually true; almost always.
But:
1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING the
best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?
2. The slavish worship of Hamilton has him the greatest of all time...
...which is just unsupportable by pointing to a record that is almost exclusively in the very best car out there.
And that's usually true; almost always.
1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING the
best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?
as a matter of fact
On 2022-01-25 3:21 p.m., alister wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:42:54 -0800, Alan wrote:
The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has been
mostly driven by him being in the best car.
And that's still true.
Q) how exactly do you get to be in the best car?
A) By making the team that produces the best car think you are the best
driver available to them.
And that's usually true; almost always.
But:
1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING the
best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?
2. The slavish worship of Hamilton has him the greatest of all time...
...which is just unsupportable by pointing to a record that is almost exclusively in the very best car out there.
On 2022-01-25 3:21 p.m., alister wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:42:54 -0800, Alan wrote:
The discussion began with me saying that Hamilton's success has
been mostly driven by him being in the best car.
And that's still true.
Q) how exactly do you get to be in the best car?
A) By making the team that produces the best car think you are the
best driver available to them.
And that's usually true; almost always.
But:
1. Thinking he's the best driver available isn't the same as BEING
the best driver available as a matter of fact, is it?
2. The slavish worship of Hamilton has him the greatest of all time...
...which is just unsupportable by pointing to a record that is almost exclusively in the very best car out there.
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