If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of "asylum seekers" who are more
accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of "asylum seekers" who are more
accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" would already be double vaccinated and, by
the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
On 9/01/2022 3:38 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" would already
be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
Also with over 78% of the population of Australia fully vaccinated*
there will be many many local people (who've spent a long time locked
down) wanting to go to the GP. They don't need plague spreading nutjobs coming from overseas to make the GP successful.
* <https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/international>
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:as opposed to BRAIN DEAD
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely
boosted as well.
On 9/01/2022 1:51 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 3:38 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of "asylum seekers" who are more
accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" would already be double vaccinated and,
by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
Also with over 78% of the population of Australia fully vaccinated* there will be many many local
people (who've spent a long time locked down) wanting to go to the GP. They don't need plague
spreading nutjobs coming from overseas to make the GP successful.
* <https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/international>
Make that 93.9% nationally
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund wrote:--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:as opposed to BRAIN DEAD
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
Same thing without the quotes.
If your fully injected and get sick the you get treated as a criminal.
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
thought!
If your fully injected and get sick the you get treated as a
criminal.
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
XYXPDQ wrote:
If your fully injected and get sick the you get treated as a
criminal.
I'm sure that made sense as you typed and just lost it all at the
keyboard interface.
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir? >FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs. >>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
thought!
world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir? >> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs. >>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
thought!
world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir? >>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs. >>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
thought!
world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have >>>>> thought!
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs. >>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well. >>>>>
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have >>>>>> thought!
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs. >>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well. >>>>>>
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary >>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
up your own brainless additions.
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
"them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:wrote: >>
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com>
wrote:On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com>
wrote:On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com>
bunch of >>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed toOn 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a
cockroaches and bed bugs. >>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private
chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
as well.would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted
would have >>>>>> thought!So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who
that be sir? >>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do IAh another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might
qualify in your imaginary >>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that
might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without
making up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED "
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
plot by >> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason.suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some
Your reluctance >> to offer an alternative explanation tends to
confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll
be more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
don't >> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:wrote: >>
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com>
wrote:On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com>
bunch of >>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a
cockroaches and bed bugs. >>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private
chef either.
as well.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted
would have >>>>>> thought!
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who
that be sir? >>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do IAh another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might
qualify in your imaginary >>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that
might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without
making up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED "
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
plot by >> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason.
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some
Your reluctance >> to offer an alternative explanation tends to
confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll
be more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
don't >> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
Edmund appears to be claiming to be brainwashed... and who are we to disagree.
:-)
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have >>>>>>> thought!
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well. >>>>>>>
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary >>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
"them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
Trump
I had someone at work who got vaccinated
Trump
For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him
and wouldn't shut up about that either.
are you Covid vaccinated?
Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
Answer the question
Answer the question
Trump
In article <srktcr$ae1$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
They certainly can be. Someone can feel compelled to do something that
they are vehemently opposed to.
I had someone at work who got vaccinated because they wanted the
passport to go on holiday last year. He wouldn't shut up about being
'forced' to take the vaccine and still complains about it even now.
For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him
and wouldn't shut up about that either.
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 07:42:34 +0800, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of "asylum
seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
or simply follow their rules, don't lie*, & get in simple
* dopey nutjob or whatever his name is claims to have tested +ve on 16 but was seen making presentations to children on 17th, so either he is lieing about the test or worse a total scumbag who does not give a shit about infecting others, take your pick.
On 1/11/22 11:17 PM, Alan LeHun wrote:
In article <srktcr$ae1$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
They certainly can be. Someone can feel compelled to do something that
they are vehemently opposed to.
I had someone at work who got vaccinated because they wanted the
passport to go on holiday last year. He wouldn't shut up about being 'forced' to take the vaccine and still complains about it even now.
Well if he never in his life was vaccinated before and now they force
him, he have a point here don't you think.
For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him and wouldn't shut up about that either.
Oh dear that really must be a terrible person so he is not blindly
obeying the MSM like you?
Can't you fire him? Is still allowed to think for oneself, if so I hope that will be revoked ASAP and mobilize the thought police.
On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have >>>>>>>> thought!
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well. >>>>>>>>
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary >>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making >>> up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
Why don't you think about it yourself, you don't learn much if
everything has to be explained to you
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by >>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance >>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available
That are certainly other words with another meaning.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
In article <srm912$ddq$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
On 1/11/22 11:17 PM, Alan LeHun wrote:
In article <srktcr$ae1$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
They certainly can be. Someone can feel compelled to do something that
they are vehemently opposed to.
I had someone at work who got vaccinated because they wanted the
passport to go on holiday last year. He wouldn't shut up about being
'forced' to take the vaccine and still complains about it even now.
Well if he never in his life was vaccinated before and now they force
him, he have a point here don't you think.
He wasn't forced. He choose to believe that he had been forced as
accepting that he had voluntarily had the vaccine (which is, indeed, the case) would be an admission of personal failure.
People /can/ choose not to have the vaccine. They can not choose to
force other people to interact or otherwise engage with them. If others decide that people must be vaccinated before entering their country they
are perfectly entitled to do so. That is not 'forcing' people to have
the vaccine.
For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him >>> and wouldn't shut up about that either.
Oh dear that really must be a terrible person so he is not blindly
obeying the MSM like you?
Can't you fire him? Is still allowed to think for oneself, if so I hope
that will be revoked ASAP and mobilize the thought police.
The idea that Trump had the presidency stolen from him is absurd. I find
it telling when people say otherwise.
I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime
peace of human intellect as your President, the most popular one
ever!
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have >>>>>>> thought!
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well. >>>>>>>
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary >>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
"them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
The idea that Trump had the presidency stolen from him is absurd. I find
it telling when people say otherwise.
I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime peace
of human intellect
as your President, the most popular one ever!
I am sure US citizens are drunk of happiness ever since.
On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have >>>>>>>> thought!
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well. >>>>>>>>
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary >>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making >>> up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
is not sane.
So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious >health issues with Covid.
No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a >superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the >extinguished versions of the Virus.
Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
or had a previous infection.
No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good >reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs
at all.>
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by >>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance >>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer? >That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have >>>>>>>>> thought!
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well. >>>>>>>>>
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary >>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making >>>> up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
is not sane.
Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as BRAINWASHED.
So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious
health issues with Covid.
No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
extinguished versions of the Virus.
Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
or had a previous infection.
There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK
alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
All the top medical experts state
that the booster significantly
increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of hospitalisation.
Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
qualified experts.
I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
"sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.
There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good
reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs
at all.>
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by >>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance >>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't >>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer? >> That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.
On 1/12/2022 11:41 AM, Edmund wrote:
I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime
peace of human intellect as your President, the most popular one
ever!
Biden's current approval rating of 43.1% (538's weighted average) is
higher than Trump's at this stage (and indeed over almost all of) his presidency.
Guess which one has claimed to be "the most popular one ever!"
On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
Make that "BRAINWASHED "
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have >>>>>>>>>> thought!
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary >>>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making >>>>> up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already >>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
is not sane.
Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as
BRAINWASHED.
I didn't, you did that yourself.
What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated
and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where >brainwashed.
To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed.
So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious
health issues with Covid.
No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
extinguished versions of the Virus.
Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated >>> or had a previous infection.
There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK
alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate.
No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
All the top medical experts state
Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion >impossible, are you aware of that?
that the booster significantly
increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
hospitalisation.
Pfizer you mean?
Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know.
Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
qualified experts.
Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you
are doing?
I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
"sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.
Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.
Not every vaccinated human is brainwashed but you most certainly are.
There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good
reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs >>> at all.>
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by >>>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance >>>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be >>>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't >>>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So >>>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.
Remind me or are you realizing now how foolish your suggestion is.
Edmund--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:18:04 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:Make that "BRAINWASHED "
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" >>>>>>>>>>>>
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
thought!
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary >>>>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
Try answering the question.
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making >>>>>> up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already >>>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted >>>> is not sane.
Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as
BRAINWASHED.
I didn't, you did that yourself.
What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated
and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where
brainwashed.
Nope, as already explained to you, the OP, according to you, was
including *everyone* in his claim. You simply changed the word "sane"
to "BRAINWASHED" so your comment equally applied to *everyone*.
To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed.
So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious >>>> health issues with Covid.
No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
extinguished versions of the Virus.
Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated >>>> or had a previous infection.
There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK
alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate.
I'll rephrase my question. There are currently 8.5K people in hospital
in South Africa with Covid [1]. Do you know anyone in hospital with
the cold?
[1] https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/
No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it >>>> at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
All the top medical experts state
Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion
impossible, are you aware of that?
How so? If you have a medical problem do you go to a doctor or do you
go looking for some self-declared expert on social media?
that the booster significantly
increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
hospitalisation.
Pfizer you mean?
Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know.
How about the scientists in your own country:
"The scientists [in South Africa] concluded that "previous infection, followed by vaccination - or likely a booster - is probably protective against omicron, and almost certainly against severe disease."
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/covid-booster-dose-is-crucial-against-omicron-variant-heres-why.html
The article summarises results from all around the world, all saying
the same thing.
Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
qualified experts.
Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you
are doing?
You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed. >>>
everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
"sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.
Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.
I have an underlying cardiac condition for which I take 8 tablets
every day. Does that make me brainwashed?
Not every vaccinated human is brainwashed but you most certainly are.
There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good >>>> reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs >>>> at all.>
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by >>>>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance >>>>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be >>>>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some >>>>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't >>>>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So >>>>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.
Remind me or are you realizing now how foolish your suggestion is.
Whilst recognising your intellectual limitations, I did think you
could find a post from yesterday that was a direct response to one
from you. Anyway, here is what I said:
"My original post was in the context of *Covid vaccination*. From
everything you have said (and not said) so far, I continue to believe
that in that context of Covid vaccination, you do belong to that group
of anti-vaxxers who are fueled by some sort of conspiracy that the
Covid vaccine is really some nefarious plot by "them". I'm open to
being convinced otherwise but evasion won't convince me.
BTW, in regard to your "multiple vaccinations", how many of those were voluntary on your part i.e. not decided by your parents when you were
a child or necessary for a visa to enter some country?"
Your lack of response to my final question suggests that none of your multiple vaccines was voluntary on your part.
Edmund
On 1/12/22 6:49 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 1/12/2022 11:41 AM, Edmund wrote:I don't have to guess, the brilliant Biden got more votes then any
I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this
prime peace of human intellect as your President, the most
popular one ever!
Biden's current approval rating of 43.1% (538's weighted average)
is higher than Trump's at this stage (and indeed over almost all
of) his presidency.
Guess which one has claimed to be "the most popular one ever!"
president ever. ( so they say )
So says totaling up the official count in all the states plus DC (not
that it is relevant to the claims at hand). Note that multiple audits, reviews, and court cases have found absolutely no evidence of
significant fraud or error that would change that assessment. But the
lies (and conditions of pathological denial) continue.
On 1/13/22 12:24 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:18:04 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Try answering the question.
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:Make that "BRAINWASHED "
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" >>>>>>>>>>>>>
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
thought!
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ? >>>>>>>>>
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already >>>>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted >>>>> is not sane.
Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as
BRAINWASHED.
I didn't, you did that yourself.
What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated
and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where
brainwashed.
Nope, as already explained to you, the OP, according to you, was
including *everyone* in his claim. You simply changed the word "sane"
to "BRAINWASHED" so your comment equally applied to *everyone*.
Now why don't you write down that sentence, read it out loud and let is
sink in.
Maybe, just maybe you will found out that it then says BRAINWASHED
people are vaccinated.
Spoiler : that is not the same as vaccinated people are brainwashed.
To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed. >>>
So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious >>>>> health issues with Covid.
No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a >>>>> superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the >>>>> extinguished versions of the Virus.
Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated >>>>> or had a previous infection.
There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK >>>> alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate.
I'll rephrase my question. There are currently 8.5K people in hospital
in South Africa with Covid [1]. Do you know anyone in hospital with
the cold?
Well at the moment I don't have friends in hospitals but I am 100% sure >there are people in hospitals which have a cold.
Doctors say that a high percentage of those
registered Covid patients where accidental, meaning they didn't even
knew they had it until they where tested in the hospital.
Still the numbers working out as 0.01% of the population.
Not many on ventilators and no long hospital stay.
[1]
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/
No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it >>>>> at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
All the top medical experts state
Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion
impossible, are you aware of that?
How so? If you have a medical problem do you go to a doctor or do you
go looking for some self-declared expert on social media?
Claiming something foolish as ALL TOP EXPERTS....
You really don't understand what is wrong with that?
If I can name one single expert who doesn't agree with your baseless >statement, what will you do, claiming it is a conspiracy theorist?
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
that the booster significantly
increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
hospitalisation.
Pfizer you mean?
Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know.
How about the scientists in your own country:
"The scientists [in South Africa] concluded that "previous infection,
followed by vaccination - or likely a booster - is probably protective
against omicron, and almost certainly against severe disease."
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/covid-booster-dose-is-crucial-against-omicron-variant-heres-why.html
The article summarises results from all around the world, all saying
the same thing.
Well as you can read, that article is remarkably vague and they use
terms as
"probably" and "almost" along with a couple obvious things like previous >infections in addition to boosters will likely improve protection.
They avoid naming the fact that SA shows that unvaccinated people
recover very well from Omicron.
--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
qualified experts.
Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you
are doing?
You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed. >>>>
everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
"sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.
Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.
I have an underlying cardiac condition for which I take 8 tablets
every day. Does that make me brainwashed?
No, that's not the reason, you have a very good reason for doing what
you do.
It's that part where you attack me and label me as a "conspiracy fueled >ant-vaxxer " that is what shows you are brainwashed.
Not every vaccinated human is brainwashed but you most certainly are.
There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good >>>>> reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs >>>>> at all.>
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by >>>>>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance >>>>>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be >>>>>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some >>>>>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't >>>>>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a >>>>>>> multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So >>>>>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.
Remind me or are you realizing now how foolish your suggestion is.
Whilst recognising your intellectual limitations, I did think you
could find a post from yesterday that was a direct response to one
from you. Anyway, here is what I said:
"My original post was in the context of *Covid vaccination*. From
everything you have said (and not said) so far, I continue to believe
that in that context of Covid vaccination, you do belong to that group
of anti-vaxxers who are fueled by some sort of conspiracy that the
Covid vaccine is really some nefarious plot by "them". I'm open to
being convinced otherwise but evasion won't convince me.
OK so in your mind its in the context of Covid vaccination, which means
not against vaccinations as such.
Which means labeling people as anti-vaxxers is a very stupid expression.
The addition of "conspiracy" makes it even worse, it not about
discussing anything it's solely about disqualifying people with another >opinion no matter what.
I find it extremely arrogant to try disqualify people with another
opinion then the MSM allows.
My experience is that people with second thoughts about the one fits all
vaccination solution are way more informed then the ones who blindly
follow the MSM.
BTW, in regard to your "multiple vaccinations", how many of those were
voluntary on your part i.e. not decided by your parents when you were
a child or necessary for a visa to enter some country?"
Your lack of response to my final question suggests that none of your
multiple vaccines was voluntary on your part.
A had a few for vacations they where voluntary.
Edmund
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:53:30 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/13/22 12:24 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:18:04 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Try answering the question.
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:Make that "BRAINWASHED "
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
thought!
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ? >>>>>>>>>>
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already >>>>>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as >>>>>>> well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted >>>>>> is not sane.
Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as >>>>> BRAINWASHED.
I didn't, you did that yourself.
What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated >>>> and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where
brainwashed.
Nope, as already explained to you, the OP, according to you, was
including *everyone* in his claim. You simply changed the word "sane"
to "BRAINWASHED" so your comment equally applied to *everyone*.
Now why don't you write down that sentence, read it out loud and let is
sink in.
Maybe, just maybe you will found out that it then says BRAINWASHED
people are vaccinated.
I don't know what that mental wriggling is supposed to achieve.
Spoiler : that is not the same as vaccinated people are brainwashed.
To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed. >>>>I'll rephrase my question. There are currently 8.5K people in hospital
So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious >>>>>> health issues with Covid.
No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a >>>>>> superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the >>>>>> extinguished versions of the Virus.
Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated >>>>>> or had a previous infection.
There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK >>>>> alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate. >>>
in South Africa with Covid [1]. Do you know anyone in hospital with
the cold?
Well at the moment I don't have friends in hospitals but I am 100% sure
there are people in hospitals which have a cold.
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted *because* they have a
cold.
Doctors say that a high percentage of those
registered Covid patients where accidental, meaning they didn't even
knew they had it until they where tested in the hospital.
Still the numbers working out as 0.01% of the population.
Not many on ventilators and no long hospital stay.
[1]
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/
No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it >>>>>> at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
All the top medical experts state
Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion
impossible, are you aware of that?
How so? If you have a medical problem do you go to a doctor or do you
go looking for some self-declared expert on social media?
Claiming something foolish as ALL TOP EXPERTS....
You really don't understand what is wrong with that?
If I can name one single expert who doesn't agree with your baseless
statement, what will you do, claiming it is a conspiracy theorist?
Why don't you then.
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
What about him?
that the booster significantly
increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
hospitalisation.
Pfizer you mean?
Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know.
How about the scientists in your own country:
"The scientists [in South Africa] concluded that "previous infection,
followed by vaccination - or likely a booster - is probably protective
against omicron, and almost certainly against severe disease."
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/covid-booster-dose-is-crucial-against-omicron-variant-heres-why.html
The article summarises results from all around the world, all saying
the same thing.
Well as you can read, that article is remarkably vague and they use
terms as
"probably" and "almost" along with a couple obvious things like previous
infections in addition to boosters will likely improve protection.
They avoid naming the fact that SA shows that unvaccinated people
recover very well from Omicron.
So long as they don't die from it.
"WHO says omicron is life threatening for unvaccinated, elderly and
people with underlying conditions.
Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO's health emergencies program, said
omicron represents a "massive threat" to the lives of the
unvaccinated."
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/11/who-says-omicron-is-life-threatening-for-unvaccinated-elderly-underlying-conditions.html
Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
qualified experts.
Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you >>>> are doing?
Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.
You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed. >>>>>
everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word >>>>> "sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone. >>>>
I have an underlying cardiac condition for which I take 8 tablets
every day. Does that make me brainwashed?
No, that's not the reason, you have a very good reason for doing what
you do.
It's that part where you attack me and label me as a "conspiracy fueled
ant-vaxxer " that is what shows you are brainwashed.
Not every vaccinated human is brainwashed but you most certainly are. >>>>>
There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good >>>>>> reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs >>>>>> at all.>
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
"them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be >>>>>>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some >>>>>>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't >>>>>>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a >>>>>>>> multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So >>>>>>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.
Remind me or are you realizing now how foolish your suggestion is.
Whilst recognising your intellectual limitations, I did think you
could find a post from yesterday that was a direct response to one
from you. Anyway, here is what I said:
"My original post was in the context of *Covid vaccination*. From
everything you have said (and not said) so far, I continue to believe
that in that context of Covid vaccination, you do belong to that group
of anti-vaxxers who are fueled by some sort of conspiracy that the
Covid vaccine is really some nefarious plot by "them". I'm open to
being convinced otherwise but evasion won't convince me.
OK so in your mind its in the context of Covid vaccination, which means
not against vaccinations as such.
Which means labeling people as anti-vaxxers is a very stupid expression.
The addition of "conspiracy" makes it even worse, it not about
discussing anything it's solely about disqualifying people with another
opinion no matter what.
I find it extremely arrogant to try disqualify people with another
opinion then the MSM allows.
My experience is that people with second thoughts about the one fits all
vaccination solution are way more informed then the ones who blindly
follow the MSM.
BTW, in regard to your "multiple vaccinations", how many of those were
voluntary on your part i.e. not decided by your parents when you were
a child or necessary for a visa to enter some country?"
Your lack of response to my final question suggests that none of your
multiple vaccines was voluntary on your part.
A had a few for vacations they where voluntary.
Edmund
On 1/14/22 10:49 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:53:30 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/13/22 12:24 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:18:04 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Try answering the question.
On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:Make that "BRAINWASHED "
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
"asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
You can't bring your private chef either.
Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
would already be
double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
thought!
FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ? >>>>>>>>>>>
Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
up your own brainless additions.
================================
~misfit~:
"Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already >>>>>>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as >>>>>>>> well.]
You:
"Make that "BRAINWASHED"
===============================
Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted >>>>>>> is not sane.
Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as >>>>>> BRAINWASHED.
I didn't, you did that yourself.
What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated >>>>> and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where
brainwashed.
Nope, as already explained to you, the OP, according to you, was
including *everyone* in his claim. You simply changed the word "sane"
to "BRAINWASHED" so your comment equally applied to *everyone*.
Now why don't you write down that sentence, read it out loud and let is
sink in.
Maybe, just maybe you will found out that it then says BRAINWASHED
people are vaccinated.
I don't know what that mental wriggling is supposed to achieve.
Think about it a little longer then, it isn't rocket science.
Spoiler : that is not the same as vaccinated people are brainwashed.
To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed. >>>>>I'll rephrase my question. There are currently 8.5K people in hospital >>>> in South Africa with Covid [1]. Do you know anyone in hospital with
So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious >>>>>>> health issues with Covid.
No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a >>>>>>> superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the >>>>>>> extinguished versions of the Virus.
Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
or had a previous infection.
There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK >>>>>> alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate. >>>>
the cold?
Well at the moment I don't have friends in hospitals but I am 100% sure
there are people in hospitals which have a cold.
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted *because* they have a
cold.
You may suspect what you want, fact are people admitted with a broken
leg get tested, if positive they going in the records as Covid patients.
Doctors say that a high percentage of those
registered Covid patients where accidental, meaning they didn't even
knew they had it until they where tested in the hospital.
Still the numbers working out as 0.01% of the population.
Not many on ventilators and no long hospital stay.
[1]
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/
No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it >>>>>>> at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
All the top medical experts state
Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion
impossible, are you aware of that?
How so? If you have a medical problem do you go to a doctor or do you
go looking for some self-declared expert on social media?
Claiming something foolish as ALL TOP EXPERTS....
You really don't understand what is wrong with that?
If I can name one single expert who doesn't agree with your baseless
statement, what will you do, claiming it is a conspiracy theorist?
Why don't you then.
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
What about him?
It doesn't surprise me you don't even know.
Google it yourself,
you may find it as long as google haven't deleted
him completely.
How about the scientists in your own country:
that the booster significantly
increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
hospitalisation.
Pfizer you mean?
Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know. >>>>
"The scientists [in South Africa] concluded that "previous infection,
followed by vaccination - or likely a booster - is probably protective >>>> against omicron, and almost certainly against severe disease."
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/covid-booster-dose-is-crucial-against-omicron-variant-heres-why.html
The article summarises results from all around the world, all saying
the same thing.
Well as you can read, that article is remarkably vague and they use
terms as
"probably" and "almost" along with a couple obvious things like previous >>> infections in addition to boosters will likely improve protection.
They avoid naming the fact that SA shows that unvaccinated people
recover very well from Omicron.
So long as they don't die from it.
Correct, now just for fun take a look at the facts in SA, what does that >tell you?
Empty hospitals,
hardly any deaths
and all that with a 20% vaccination rate.
What is your explanation?
"WHO says omicron is life threatening for unvaccinated, elderly and
people with underlying conditions.
I don't care what anyone says if it contradicts the plain facts.
Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO's health emergencies program, said
omicron represents a "massive threat" to the lives of the
unvaccinated."
He has the right to have an opinion too.
How about the previously infected?
Al figures I have seen are far less dramatic then the previous Mutations.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/11/who-says-omicron-is-life-threatening-for-unvaccinated-elderly-underlying-conditions.html
--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
qualified experts.
Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you >>>>> are doing?
Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.
I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word >>>>>> "sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone. >>>>>
I have an underlying cardiac condition for which I take 8 tablets
every day. Does that make me brainwashed?
No, that's not the reason, you have a very good reason for doing what
you do.
It's that part where you attack me and label me as a "conspiracy fueled >>> ant-vaxxer " that is what shows you are brainwashed.
Not every vaccinated human is brainwashed but you most certainly are. >>>>>>
There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good >>>>>>> reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs
at all.>
suggests that you
have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
"them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be >>>>>>>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
IOW, no alternative explanation available.
[1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some >>>>>>>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a >>>>>>>>> multiple vaccinated person?
I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So >>>>>>>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.
Remind me or are you realizing now how foolish your suggestion is.
Whilst recognising your intellectual limitations, I did think you
could find a post from yesterday that was a direct response to one
from you. Anyway, here is what I said:
"My original post was in the context of *Covid vaccination*. From
everything you have said (and not said) so far, I continue to believe
that in that context of Covid vaccination, you do belong to that group >>>> of anti-vaxxers who are fueled by some sort of conspiracy that the
Covid vaccine is really some nefarious plot by "them". I'm open to
being convinced otherwise but evasion won't convince me.
OK so in your mind its in the context of Covid vaccination, which means
not against vaccinations as such.
Which means labeling people as anti-vaxxers is a very stupid expression. >>> The addition of "conspiracy" makes it even worse, it not about
discussing anything it's solely about disqualifying people with another
opinion no matter what.
I find it extremely arrogant to try disqualify people with another
opinion then the MSM allows.
My experience is that people with second thoughts about the one fits all >>> vaccination solution are way more informed then the ones who blindly
follow the MSM.
BTW, in regard to your "multiple vaccinations", how many of those were >>>> voluntary on your part i.e. not decided by your parents when you were
a child or necessary for a visa to enter some country?"
Your lack of response to my final question suggests that none of your
multiple vaccines was voluntary on your part.
A had a few for vacations they where voluntary.
Edmund
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted *because* they have aSame for Covid !
cold.
Same for Covid !Thank you Dr Fuckhead
"rCyUp to halfrCO of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing"
The Prime Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid hospitalisations rCo after it was revealed that hundreds of patients listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-covid-hospital-patients-went-in-for-something-totally-different-and-were-positive-in-routine-testing/news-story/603db6feed20422b3e8b57fd0e159fdb
In other words they are in hospital "with Covid" not "because" of Covid. The same for ICU and the number of deaths. Apparently the number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of Covid".
In July 2020 I only knew 3 people who had had Covid. One did not know he had it, another spent a day in bed, the third went to hospital for observation for a few days. That sort of aligned with the media. Eighteen months on, I know dozens who've had it but still only one hospitalisation and one death of an eighty year old. Experience is not aligning with media narrative and I'm far from alone as the above article shows. The media is milking Covid for every column inch they can get.
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know 'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
BTW, I am vaccinated
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 11:36:46 +0100, Edmund <nom... wrote:Martin,
So you can't name one.
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
What about him?
It doesn't surprise me you don't even know.Nope, you are making the claim, it's up to you to provide the
Google it yourself,
evidence. Clearly you can't.
No. As you will find out he is being banned and deleted. It's sad when the crowd cheers the authoritarians.you may find it as long as google haven't deletedLOL, spoken like a true conspiracist.
him completely.
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 07:42:34 +0800, Tedros Fauci wrote:
If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.or simply follow their rules, don't lie*, & get in simple
You can't bring your private chef either.
If your fully injected and get sick the you get treated as a criminal.
On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 8:49:34 PM UTC+11, martin wrote:
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted *because* they have a
cold.
Same for Covid !
"rCyUp to halfrCO of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing"
The Prime Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid hospitalisations rCo after it was revealed that hundreds of patients listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-covid-hospital-patients-went-in-for-something-totally-different-and-were-positive-in-routine-testing/news-story/603db6feed20422b3e8b57fd0e159fdb
In other words they are in hospital "with Covid" not "because" of Covid. The same for ICU and the number of deaths. Apparently the number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of Covid".
In July 2020 I only knew 3 people who had had Covid. One did not know he had it, another spent a day in bed, the third went to hospital for observation for a few days. That sort of aligned with the media. Eighteen months on, I know dozens who've had it but still only one hospitalisation and one death of an eighty year old. Experience is not aligning with media narrative and I'm far from alone as the above article shows. The media is milking Covid for every column inch they can get.
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know 'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 3:58:19 AM UTC+11, martin... wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 11:36:46 +0100, Edmund <nom... wrote:
So you can't name one.
Nope, you are making the claim, it's up to you to provide the
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
What about him?
It doesn't surprise me you don't even know.
Google it yourself,
evidence. Clearly you can't.
Martin,
Clearly he can. You are in denial or you've searched and did not like what you found. I searched and found him easily.
Dr. Robert Malone who was involved in the invention of the mRNA technology.
He is a skeptic not an anti-vaxxer and it is now turning out he was correct. The vaccines are no longer effective, etc. I suggest you keep informed.
It's interesting and laughable that he's been labelled an "anti-vaxxer". You gotta be kidding me. And, he is not "trying so hard to undermine its use" as some idiots write. Read or listen to what he says, not what is written or said about him. Although I suspect you will do the opposite are read about him and ignore what he says, c'est la vie.
BTW: Don't get sucked into the rubbish generated by the tiny minority of real 'anti-vaxxer' nutters. They are as twisted as the blindlt pro-vax nutters. There is a sensible middle ground, find it.
Read the research papers, reviews and the less sensational journalists. It's information worth evaluating.
build
you may find it as long as google haven't deletedLOL, spoken like a true conspiracist.
him completely.
No. As you will find out he is being banned and deleted. It's sad when the crowd cheers the authoritarians.
On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 8:49:34 PM UTC+11, martin wrote:
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted *because* they have a
cold.
Same for Covid !
"'Up to half' of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing"
The Prime Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid hospitalisations - after it was revealed that hundreds of patients listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-covid-hospital-patients-went-in-for-something-totally-different-and-were-positive-in-routine-testing/news-story/603db6feed20422b3e8b57fd0e159fdb
In other words they are in hospital "with Covid" not "because" of Covid.
The same for ICU and the number of deaths. Apparently the number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of Covid".
In July 2020 I only knew 3 people who had had Covid. One did not know he had it, another spent a day in bed, the third went to hospital for observation for a few days. That sort of aligned with the media. Eighteen months on, I know dozens who've had it but still only one hospitalisation and one death of an eighty year old. Experience is not aligning with media narrative and I'm far from alone as the above article shows. The media is milking Covid for every column inch they can get.
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know 'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 8:49:34 PM UTC+11, martin wrote:
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted *because* they have a
cold.
Same for Covid !
"aUp to halfA of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing"
The Prime Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid hospitalisations u after it was revealed that hundreds of patients listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-covid-hospital-patients-went-in-for-something-totally-different-and-were-positive-in-routine-testing/news-story/603db6feed20422b3e8b57fd0e159fdb
In other words they are in hospital "with Covid" not "because" of Covid. The same for ICU and the number of deaths. Apparently the number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of Covid".
In July 2020 I only knew 3 people who had had Covid. One did not know he had it, another spent a day in bed, the third went to hospital for observation for a few days. That sort of aligned with the media. Eighteen months on, I know dozens who've had it but still only one hospitalisation and one death of an eighty year old. Experience is not aligning with media narrative and I'm far from alone as the above article shows. The media is milking Covid for every column inch they can get.--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know 'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
build
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:54:26 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 3:58:19 AM UTC+11, martin... wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 11:36:46 +0100, Edmund <nom... wrote:
So you can't name one.
Nope, you are making the claim, it's up to you to provide the
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
What about him?
It doesn't surprise me you don't even know.
Google it yourself,
evidence. Clearly you can't.
Martin,
Clearly he can. You are in denial or you've searched and did not like what you found. I searched and found him easily.
Where did you get your information?
Here are what I would regard as two reliable sources you might want to
check out:
Demanding people to let them inject an experimental drug with an
emergency allowance that is not even out of the required testing period
and long term effects are unknown.
I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime peace
of human intellect
as your President, the most popular one ever!
I am sure US citizens are drunk of happiness ever since.
On 1/15/22 11:27 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:54:26 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 3:58:19 AM UTC+11, martin... wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 11:36:46 +0100, Edmund <nom... wrote:
So you can't name one.
Nope, you are making the claim, it's up to you to provide the
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
What about him?
It doesn't surprise me you don't even know.
Google it yourself,
evidence. Clearly you can't.
Martin,
Clearly he can. You are in denial or you've searched and did not like what you found. I searched and found him easily.
Where did you get your information?
Here are what I would regard as two reliable sources you might want to
check out:
I spent a lot of my time to provide you with some -other then MSM
propaganda
- but you are not clearly worth it, so I won't waste more time
for you.
You tempt me to insult you the way you insult me but I realize you are a >brainwashed victim of the propaganda you get shoved thru your throat
every day.
You already demonstrated you prefer to be insulted by your own twist of
my posting and although I made it very clear that
brainwashed people are vaccinated is not the same as vaccinated people
are brainwashed.
Same a women are human is not the same a human are women...
You are too stuburn to admit you got it wrong.
No matter how many sources I will show you, you will always deny it and
go back to the manipulated and censored MSM.
You will only accept fake news.
Fine with me.--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Edmund
In article <srn0ce$iib$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
[...]
Demanding people to let them inject an experimental drug with an
emergency allowance that is not even out of the required testing period
and long term effects are unknown.
It is not a drug. That is disinformation aimed at swaying the opinions
of the gullible and naive. The anti-vaccine lobby is so full of >disinformation that one might be led to assume their arguments have
little to no substance whatsoever.
The long term effects of Covid are well known. The long term effects of
both mRNA and viral vector vaccines (Covid vaccines are one of those two >types) are also well known. Claiming that we "don't know the long term >effects of Covid vaccines" is a bit like saying we don't know the safety
of a Jet aircraft because someone installed type of microwave oven in
the galley.
Even the two major side effects that surfaced after the vaccine release >(blood clotting & heart inflammation) are so incredibly rare that the
full regular testing regime would probably not have detected them.
Having said all that, I would also agree that many of the pro-vaxers
have also made unsubstantiated or exaggerated claims and they do
themselves a disservice by doing so. They don't need to.
[...]
--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime peace
of human intellect
as your President, the most popular one ever!
I am sure US citizens are drunk of happiness ever since.
I am Scottish. I did not vote for Trump. I certainly did not vote for
Boris. I do not consider my personal politics to be left wing.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:33:42 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/15/22 11:27 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:54:26 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 3:58:19 AM UTC+11, martin... wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 11:36:46 +0100, Edmund <nom... wrote:
So you can't name one.
Nope, you are making the claim, it's up to you to provide the
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
What about him?
It doesn't surprise me you don't even know.
Google it yourself,
evidence. Clearly you can't.
Martin,
Clearly he can. You are in denial or you've searched and did not like what you found. I searched and found him easily.
Where did you get your information?
Here are what I would regard as two reliable sources you might want to
check out:
I spent a lot of my time to provide you with some -other then MSM
propaganda
No you haven't provided any information at all, you have made claims
without citing a single source to support your opinions. Telling me to
go Google it for myself doesn't cut it.
- but you are not clearly worth it, so I won't waste more time
for you.
That's fine but I will continue to challenge any other baseless claims
you make.
You tempt me to insult you the way you insult me but I realize you are a
brainwashed victim of the propaganda you get shoved thru your throat
every day.
You already demonstrated you prefer to be insulted by your own twist of
my posting and although I made it very clear that
brainwashed people are vaccinated is not the same as vaccinated people
are brainwashed.
Same a women are human is not the same a human are women...
You are too stuburn to admit you got it wrong.
No matter how many sources I will show you, you will always deny it and
go back to the manipulated and censored MSM.
You will only accept fake news.
A lot of projection in that paragraph!
Fine with me.
Edmund
In article <srn0ce$iib$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
[...]
Demanding people to let them inject an experimental drug with an
emergency allowance that is not even out of the required testing period
and long term effects are unknown.
It is not a drug. That is disinformation aimed at swaying the opinions
of the gullible and naive. The anti-vaccine lobby is so full of disinformation that one might be led to assume their arguments have
little to no substance whatsoever.
The long term effects of Covid are well known. The long term effects of
both mRNA and viral vector vaccines (Covid vaccines are one of those two types) are also well known. Claiming that we "don't know the long term effects of Covid vaccines" is a bit like saying we don't know the safety
of a Jet aircraft because someone installed type of microwave oven in
the galley.
Even the two major side effects that surfaced after the vaccine release (blood clotting & heart inflammation) are so incredibly rare that the
full regular testing regime would probably not have detected them.
Having said all that, I would also agree that many of the pro-vaxers
have also made unsubstantiated or exaggerated claims and they do
themselves a disservice by doing so. They don't need to.
[...]
I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime peace
of human intellect as your President, the most popular one ever!
I am sure US citizens are drunk of happiness ever since.
I am Scottish. I did not vote for Trump. I certainly did not vote for
Boris. I do not consider my personal politics to be left wing.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:08:10 -0000, Alan LeHun wrote:
In article <srn0ce$iib$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
[...]
Demanding people to let them inject an experimental drug with an
emergency allowance that is not even out of the required testing period
and long term effects are unknown.
It is not a drug. That is disinformation aimed at swaying the opinions
of the gullible and naive. The anti-vaccine lobby is so full of
disinformation that one might be led to assume their arguments have
little to no substance whatsoever.
The long term effects of Covid are well known. The long term effects of
both mRNA and viral vector vaccines (Covid vaccines are one of those two
types) are also well known. Claiming that we "don't know the long term
effects of Covid vaccines" is a bit like saying we don't know the safety
of a Jet aircraft because someone installed type of microwave oven in
the galley.
Even the two major side effects that surfaced after the vaccine release
(blood clotting & heart inflammation) are so incredibly rare that the
full regular testing regime would probably not have detected them.
Having said all that, I would also agree that many of the pro-vaxers
have also made unsubstantiated or exaggerated claims and they do
themselves a disservice by doing so. They don't need to.
[...]
I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime peace
of human intellect as your President, the most popular one ever!
I am sure US citizens are drunk of happiness ever since.
I am Scottish. I did not vote for Trump. I certainly did not vote for
Boris. I do not consider my personal politics to be left wing.
IIRC correctlt Endmund has previously promoted ivermectin (horse worming tablets) & hydroxochloroquine as well as citing Donald Trumps tame Quack
Dr Stella Immanuel Who also believe witches & Demons who have sex with
people in a dream world. I think this tells you all you need to know about Edmund's cognitive reasoning skills.
Even Trump now admits the Vacciene works.
On 15/01/2022 03:14, build wrote:
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an
'Optimistic Skeptic' who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know 'mandates'
are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters
and the rest of the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
Apparently the
number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of
Covid".
On 15/01/2022 03:14, build wrote:
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies.
Wrong. After (again) searching multiple reliable sources the number is
78%. You are repeating your governments quoted percentage of *eligible* Australians. Google vaccination by percentage of population instead of reporting local news.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic'
who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know
'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage
of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4%
who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
I agree that the anti-vaxxers should be respected as much as they
respect pro-vaxxers (i.e. rational people). They should be respected
enough to be made to pay for their own medical costs if they contract
COVID after refusing the prophylactic treatment being offered by the government (at no cost to them). At least three governments around the
world are planning to or have already taken this route.
They should also respect others who chose to take all precautions--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
against the virus by staying home and self-isolating, even if it means losing their jobs. I strongly believe in freedom of choice but all
choices have consequences.
On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 8:49:34 PM UTC+11, martin wrote:
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted *because* they have a
cold.
Same for Covid !
"rCyUp to halfrCO of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing"
The Prime Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid hospitalisations rCo after it was revealed that hundreds of patients listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-covid-hospital-patients-went-in-for-something-totally-different-and-were-positive-in-routine-testing/news-story/603db6feed20422b3e8b57fd0e159fdb
In other words they are in hospital "with Covid" not "because" of Covid. The same for ICU and the number of deaths. Apparently the number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of Covid".
In July 2020 I only knew 3 people who had had Covid. One did not know he had it, another spent a day in bed, the third went to hospital for observation for a few days. That sort of aligned with the media. Eighteen months on, I know dozens who've had it but still only one hospitalisation and one death of an eighty year old. Experience is not aligning with media narrative and I'm far from alone as the above article shows. The media is milking Covid for every column inch they can get.
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know 'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
build
On 16/01/2022 8:53 am, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 15/01/2022 03:14, build wrote:
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies.
Wrong. After (again) searching multiple reliable sources the number is
78%. You are repeating your governments quoted percentage of
*eligible* Australians. Google vaccination by percentage of population
instead of reporting local news.
Close, 92.9% of the population 12 years and older are fully vaccinated. Children 0-11 years make up about 12% of the population so the rate for
the population as a whole on that basis is about 82.9%, but vaccination
of children 5-11 has started so so there is an unknown number of single dosed children, the figure for the single dosed over 11 population is
94.5%.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic'
who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know
'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage
of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4%
who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
I agree that the anti-vaxxers should be respected as much as they
respect pro-vaxxers (i.e. rational people). They should be respected
enough to be made to pay for their own medical costs if they contract
COVID after refusing the prophylactic treatment being offered by the
government (at no cost to them). At least three governments around the
world are planning to or have already taken this route.
Agreed
They should also respect others who chose to take all precautions
against the virus by staying home and self-isolating, even if it means
losing their jobs. I strongly believe in freedom of choice but all
choices have consequences.
On 16/01/2022 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 16/01/2022 8:53 am, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 15/01/2022 03:14, build wrote:
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies.
Wrong. After (again) searching multiple reliable sources the number is 78%. You are repeating
your governments quoted percentage of *eligible* Australians. Google vaccination by percentage
of population instead of reporting local news.
Close, 92.9% of the population 12 years and older are fully vaccinated. Children 0-11 years make
up about 12% of the population so the rate for the population as a whole on that basis is about
82.9%, but vaccination of children 5-11 has started so so there is an unknown number of single
dosed children, the figure for the single dosed over 11 population is 94.5%.
Ooops that 92.9% should read 91.5%, I read the wrong column, so the overall rate should be 81.7%.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who supports 'Human Rights'
so like any sensible person I know 'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny
percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4% who don't want
the vaccine should be respected.
I agree that the anti-vaxxers should be respected as much as they respect pro-vaxxers (i.e.
rational people). They should be respected enough to be made to pay for their own medical costs
if they contract COVID after refusing the prophylactic treatment being offered by the government
(at no cost to them). At least three governments around the world are planning to or have
already taken this route.
Agreed
They should also respect others who chose to take all precautions against the virus by staying
home and self-isolating, even if it means losing their jobs. I strongly believe in freedom of
choice but all choices have consequences.
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 2:38:51 PM UTC-7, Edmund wrote:
Hey you stupid cunt.
Got anything related to F1?
Take your covid bullshit elsewhere.
Get a fucking life asshole.
On 1/15/22 3:37 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:33:42 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 1/15/22 11:27 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:54:26 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 3:58:19 AM UTC+11, martin... wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 11:36:46 +0100, Edmund <nom... wrote:
So you can't name one.
Nope, you are making the claim, it's up to you to provide the
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?
What about him?
It doesn't surprise me you don't even know.
Google it yourself,
evidence. Clearly you can't.
Martin,
Clearly he can. You are in denial or you've searched and did not like what you found. I searched and found him easily.
Where did you get your information?
Here are what I would regard as two reliable sources you might want to >>>> check out:
I spent a lot of my time to provide you with some -other then MSM
propaganda
No you haven't provided any information at all, you have made claims
without citing a single source to support your opinions. Telling me to
go Google it for myself doesn't cut it.
I was preparing a lot of info for you not only Dr Malone is censored >demonized and deleted,
which you call that conspiracy.
ALL Doctors who dare to talk about the negative aspects of the vaccins, >climate or whatever the MSM want to push they all are banned from the MSM. >That is what brainwashed people think of scientific open discussions. >censorship!
--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
- but you are not clearly worth it, so I won't waste more time
for you.
That's fine but I will continue to challenge any other baseless claims
you make.
You tempt me to insult you the way you insult me but I realize you are a >>> brainwashed victim of the propaganda you get shoved thru your throat
every day.
You already demonstrated you prefer to be insulted by your own twist of
my posting and although I made it very clear that
brainwashed people are vaccinated is not the same as vaccinated people
are brainwashed.
Same a women are human is not the same a human are women...
You are too stuburn to admit you got it wrong.
No matter how many sources I will show you, you will always deny it and
go back to the manipulated and censored MSM.
You will only accept fake news.
A lot of projection in that paragraph!
Fine with me.
Edmund
On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 8:49:34 PM UTC+11, martin wrote:
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted *because* they have a
cold.
Same for Covid !
"aUp to halfA of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something totally different and were positive in routine testing"
The Prime Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid hospitalisations u after it was revealed that hundreds of patients listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-covid-hospital-patients-went-in-for-something-totally-different-and-were-positive-in-routine-testing/news-story/603db6feed20422b3e8b57fd0e159fdb
In other words they are in hospital "with Covid" not "because" of Covid. The same for ICU and the number of deaths. Apparently the number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of Covid".
In July 2020 I only knew 3 people who had had Covid. One did not know he had it, another spent a day in bed, the third went to hospital for observation for a few days. That sort of aligned with the media. Eighteen months on, I know dozens who've had it but still only one hospitalisation and one death of an eighty year old. Experience is not aligning with media narrative and I'm far from alone as the above article shows. The media is milking Covid for every column inch they can get.
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of *all* Aussies. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know 'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
build
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:14:46 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 8:49:34 PM UTC+11, martin wrote:
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted because they have a
cold.
Same for Covid !
"aUp to halfA of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something
totally different and were positive in routine testing" The Prime
Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid hospitalisations u after it was revealed that hundreds of patients
listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the
virus at all.
In other words they are in hospital "with Covid" not "because" of
Covid. The same for ICU and the number of deaths. Apparently the
number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of
Covid".
In July 2020 I only knew 3 people who had had Covid. One did not
know he had it, another spent a day in bed, the third went to
hospital for observation for a few days. That sort of aligned with
the media. Eighteen months on, I know dozens who've had it but
still only one hospitalisation and one death of an eighty year old. Experience is not aligning with media narrative and I'm far from
alone as the above article shows. The media is milking Covid for
every column inch they can get.
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of all Aussies. I'm not an
anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who
supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know
'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny
percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of
the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
build
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
Felicity
Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:14:46 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0118/1274275-coronavirus-global/
wrote:
On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 8:49:34 PM UTC+11, martin wrote:
I suspect few if any of them are were admitted because they have a
cold.
Same for Covid !
"aUp to halfA of NSW Covid hospital patients went in for something
totally different and were positive in routine testing" The Prime
Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid
hospitalisations u after it was revealed that hundreds of patients
listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the
virus at all.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/up-to-half-of-nsw-covid-hospital-patients-went-in-for-something-totally-different-and-were-positive-in-routine-testing/news-story/603db6feed20422b3e8b57fd0e159fdb
In other words they are in hospital "with Covid" not "because" of
Covid. The same for ICU and the number of deaths. Apparently the
number of deaths "with Covid" far exceed the number "because of
Covid".
In July 2020 I only knew 3 people who had had Covid. One did not
know he had it, another spent a day in bed, the third went to
hospital for observation for a few days. That sort of aligned with
the media. Eighteen months on, I know dozens who've had it but
still only one hospitalisation and one death of an eighty year old.
Experience is not aligning with media narrative and I'm far from
alone as the above article shows. The media is milking Covid for
every column inch they can get.
BTW, I am vaccinated, like 93% of all Aussies. I'm not an
anti-vaxxer but I am a realist, an 'Optimistic Skeptic' who
supports 'Human Rights' so like any sensible person I know
'mandates' are a Human Rights abuse. The very, very, tiny
percentage of nutters have the right to be nutters and the rest of
the 3% or 4% who don't want the vaccine should be respected.
build
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Felicity
build
On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 9:28:58 AM UTC-7, Bigbird wrote:
build
when did you remove build from your kill file? lol
you wishy washy spineless pussy
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0118/1274275-coronavirus-global/
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for >attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other people
with his diseases is of course the very opposite of "sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous
and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order to
draw any inferences.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 16:28:56 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:global/
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0118/1274275-coronavirus-
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge Updated /
Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for >>attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other people >>with his diseases is of course the very opposite of "sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous
Try telling that to the families of the people who died and who probably didn't even get to be with their loved ones in their final hours :(
and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order to
draw any inferences.
Perhaps you missed the bit you snipped about it being the worst day ever since Covid began - Edmund and build seemed to think we were over the
worst of it.
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0118/1274275-coronavirus-global/
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other people
with his diseases is of course the very opposite of "sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order to
draw any inferences.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 16:28:56 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other
people with his diseases is of course the very opposite of
"sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous
Try telling that to the families of the people who died and who
probably didn't even get to be with their loved ones in their final
hours :(
and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order
to draw any inferences.
Perhaps you missed the bit you snipped about it being the worst day
ever since Covid began
- Edmund and build seemed to think we were over
the worst of it.
On 19/01/2022 5:28 am, Bigbird wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
[snip]
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other
people with his diseases is of course the very opposite of
"sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order
to draw any inferences.
Pretty disastrous for those who would otherwise be alive but for Covid-version-whichever. And their families, maybe with exceptions.
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0118/1274275-coronavirus-global/
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other people
with his diseases is of course the very opposite of "sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order to
draw any inferences.
For years I've been saying
For years I've been saying that humans via modern medicine has been undoing millennia of evolution
by keeping the less 'well adapted' alive and halting further evolution of the human race. However
with COVID we're finally seeing a disease that now seems to be predominantly killing the stupid
(unvaccinated).
For once society and evolution are on the same page. It's almost like voluntary eugenics.
People continue to die from starvation, poverty, minor untreated
ailments, flu, suicide...
geoff wrote:
On 19/01/2022 5:28 am, Bigbird wrote:https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0118/1274275-coronavirus-global/
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for
attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other
people with his diseases is of course the very opposite of
"sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order
to draw any inferences.
Pretty disastrous for those who would otherwise be alive but for
Covid-version-whichever. And their families, maybe with exceptions.
Isn't that the same for anyone who dies yet millions always have, for
one reason or another.
Emotive phrases with zero context are worthless.
People continue to die from starvation, poverty, minor untreated
ailments, flu, suicide... is it not just as disastrous for them?
Let me know
On 19/01/2022 9:58 am, Bigbird wrote:
geoff wrote:
On 19/01/2022 5:28 am, Bigbird wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
[snip]
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund
and build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just
looking for attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to
infect other people with his diseases is of course the very
opposite of "sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem
disastrous and really need some comparison to other
communicable diseases in order to draw any inferences.
Pretty disastrous for those who would otherwise be alive but for Covid-version-whichever. And their families, maybe with
exceptions.
Isn't that the same for anyone who dies yet millions always have,
for one reason or another.
Emotive phrases with zero context are worthless.
People continue to die from starvation, poverty, minor untreated
ailments, flu, suicide... is it not just as disastrous for them?
Certainly, but these people would be alive but for Covid, and there
exists a vaccine to help reduce infection and/or the severity of
infections.
Let me know when you find a vaccine for starvation,
poverty,
suicide,
and the other applicable ailments.
On 19/01/2022 5:28 am, Bigbird wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
[snip]
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other
people with his diseases is of course the very opposite of
"sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order
to draw any inferences.
For years I've been saying that humans via modern medicine has been
undoing millennia of evolution by keeping the less 'well adapted'
alive and halting further evolution of the human race. However with
COVID we're finally seeing a disease that now seems to be
predominantly killing the stupid (unvaccinated).
For once society and evolution are on the same page. It's almost like voluntary eugenics.
~misfit~ wrote:
On 19/01/2022 5:28 am, Bigbird wrote:https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0118/1274275-coronavirus-global/
Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:57:32 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird"
<bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
[snip]
Hospitalisations increase in Australia's Omicron surge
Updated / Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 08:01
What's your point?
That Omicron was and still is doing far more harm than Edmund and
build were making out.
Well Edmund is a conspiracy theory nut but build is just looking for
attention. Claiming an inalienable "human right" to infect other
people with his diseases is of course the very opposite of
"sensible".
That said, on the face of it, the numbers do not seem disastrous and
really need some comparison to other communicable diseases in order
to draw any inferences.
For years I've been saying that humans via modern medicine has been
undoing millennia of evolution by keeping the less 'well adapted'
alive and halting further evolution of the human race. However with
COVID we're finally seeing a disease that now seems to be
predominantly killing the stupid (unvaccinated).
For once society and evolution are on the same page. It's almost like
voluntary eugenics.
That's a can of worms I am not willing to open here.
That's a can of worms I am not willing to open here.
Fair enough.
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