For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular poster here!
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't agree
with?
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular
poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't agree
with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't agree
with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:20:03 -0800, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first
losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a
regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't
agree with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
"Michael Masi sacked by FIA after Hamilton controversy with 2 new
race directors appointed." https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1567603/Michael-Masi-sacked-by-FIA-two-new-race-directors-set-appointed-Mercedes-F1-news
"The FIA SACKS race director Michael Masi after his controversial
handling of the Abu Dhabi GP" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-10523523/F1-Michael-Masi-SACKED-race-director-Abu-Dhabi-Grand-Prix-controversy.html
"Michael Masi Sacked As F1 Race Director https://www.fm104.ie/news/sport/michael-masi-sacked-as-f1-race-director/
rCa but of course *you* have a better grasp of the English language
than professionals who are paid to write!
On 26/02/2022 2:20 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses. >>>>>>
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular
poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't agree
with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
No.
You can be sacked from an employer, or sacked from a position.
On 2022-02-28 1:51 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:20:03 -0800, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first
losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a
regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't
agree with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
"Michael Masi sacked by FIA after Hamilton controversy with 2 new
race directors appointed."
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1567603/Michael-Masi-sacked-by-FIA-two-new-race-directors-set-appointed-Mercedes-F1-news
Have you heard of "newspapers" and what they do with the language...
...especially for headlines?
"The FIA SACKS race director Michael Masi after his controversial
handling of the Abu Dhabi GP"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-10523523/F1-Michael-Masi-SACKED-race-director-Abu-Dhabi-Grand-Prix-controversy.html
Same question.
"Michael Masi Sacked As F1 Race Director
https://www.fm104.ie/news/sport/michael-masi-sacked-as-f1-race-director/
Essentially the same question.
a but of course *you* have a better grasp of the English language
than professionals who are paid to write!
I have an understanding that headlines are meant to grab the eye.
What a pity you've never learned what a "rhetorical device" is:
"Hyperbole
Hyperbole is deliberate exaggeration. This can be for literary effect:"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_device#Hyperbole>
Simple fact:
The ordinary meaning of "sacked" with regard to employment means
"dismissed from employment"
Not offered another job.
Not even demoted.
Get over it.
1. Masi tells the teams especially that for the last race any safety car >period near the end of the race will be ended as quickly as possible?
Do you think that was his idea alone to deliver that message?
2. The FIA is keeping the results of the inquiry private.
Do you think they would do that if the results cast them in a good light?
3. They have not fired Masi. They've offered him a different job.
Do you think he's actually going to be offered a position that's a demotion?
Do you think a condition of his getting that new position is that he
does not discuss what actually went on before, during and after the 2021 >Bahrain GP?
On 2022-02-28 1:51 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:20:03 -0800, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first
losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a
regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't
agree with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
"Michael Masi sacked by FIA after Hamilton controversy with 2 new
race directors appointed."
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1567603/Michael-Masi-sacked-by-FIA-two-new-race-directors-set-appointed-Mercedes-F1-news
Have you heard of "newspapers" and what they do with the language...
...especially for headlines?
-a"The FIA SACKS race director Michael Masi after his controversial
handling of the Abu Dhabi GP"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-10523523/F1-Michael-Masi-SACKED-race-director-Abu-Dhabi-Grand-Prix-controversy.html
Same question.
-a"Michael Masi Sacked As F1 Race Director
https://www.fm104.ie/news/sport/michael-masi-sacked-as-f1-race-director/
Essentially the same question.
-arCa but of course *you* have a better grasp of the English language
than professionals who are paid to write!
I have an understanding that headlines are meant to grab the eye.
What a pity you've never learned what a "rhetorical device" is:
"Hyperbole
Hyperbole is deliberate exaggeration. This can be for literary effect:"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_device#Hyperbole>
Simple fact:
The ordinary meaning of "sacked" with regard to employment means
"dismissed from employment"
Not offered another job.
Not even demoted.
Get over it.
1. Masi tells the teams especially that for the last race any safety car period near the end of the race will be ended as quickly as possible?
Do you think that was his idea alone to deliver that message?
2. The FIA is keeping the results of the inquiry private.
Do you think they would do that if the results cast them in a good light?
3. They have not fired Masi. They've offered him a different job.
Do you think he's actually going to be offered a position that's a
demotion?
Do you think a condition of his getting that new position is that he
does not discuss what actually went on before, during and after the 2021 Bahrain GP?
On 2022-02-26 12:33 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 26/02/2022 2:20 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses. >>>>>>>
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular
poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't agree
with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
No.
You can be sacked from an employer, or sacked from a position.
And yet.. ...you can't actually provide an example of that that isn't
from a hyperbolic newspaper headline.
On 28/02/2022 11:35 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2022-02-28 1:51 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:20:03 -0800, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first
losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a
regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't
agree with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
"Michael Masi sacked by FIA after Hamilton controversy with 2 new
race directors appointed."
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1567603/Michael-Masi-sacked-by-FIA-two-new-race-directors-set-appointed-Mercedes-F1-news
Have you heard of "newspapers" and what they do with the language...
...especially for headlines?
-a"The FIA SACKS race director Michael Masi after his controversial
handling of the Abu Dhabi GP"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-10523523/F1-Michael-Masi-SACKED-race-director-Abu-Dhabi-Grand-Prix-controversy.html
Same question.
-a"Michael Masi Sacked As F1 Race Director
https://www.fm104.ie/news/sport/michael-masi-sacked-as-f1-race-director/
Essentially the same question.
-arCa but of course *you* have a better grasp of the English language
than professionals who are paid to write!
I have an understanding that headlines are meant to grab the eye.
What a pity you've never learned what a "rhetorical device" is:
"Hyperbole
Hyperbole is deliberate exaggeration. This can be for literary effect:"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_device#Hyperbole>
Simple fact:
The ordinary meaning of "sacked" with regard to employment means
"dismissed from employment"
Not offered another job.
Not even demoted.
Get over it.
1. Masi tells the teams especially that for the last race any safety
car period near the end of the race will be ended as quickly as possible?
Do you think that was his idea alone to deliver that message?
2. The FIA is keeping the results of the inquiry private.
Do you think they would do that if the results cast them in a good light?
3. They have not fired Masi. They've offered him a different job.
Do you think he's actually going to be offered a position that's a
demotion?
Do you think a condition of his getting that new position is that he
does not discuss what actually went on before, during and after the
2021 Bahrain GP?
For fuck sake AB, you want us to believe that you are some sort of
racing driver when you can be proven to spend at least 23.5 hours of
every single day quibbling over minutiae and pedantics, and who said or didn't say what and when and with the accent on which syllable which may change the meaning of what may have been said but was purposefully clipped.
All of which leaves fuck-all actual time for your supposed motor racing.
On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 02:35:23 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-28 1:51 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:20:03 -0800, Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first
losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a
regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't
agree with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
"Michael Masi sacked by FIA after Hamilton controversy with 2 new
race directors appointed."
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1567603/Michael-Masi-sacked-by-FIA-two-new-race-directors-set-appointed-Mercedes-F1-news
Have you heard of "newspapers" and what they do with the language...
...especially for headlines?
"The FIA SACKS race director Michael Masi after his controversial
handling of the Abu Dhabi GP"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-10523523/F1-Michael-Masi-SACKED-race-director-Abu-Dhabi-Grand-Prix-controversy.html
Same question.
"Michael Masi Sacked As F1 Race Director
https://www.fm104.ie/news/sport/michael-masi-sacked-as-f1-race-director/
Essentially the same question.
rCa but of course *you* have a better grasp of the English language
than professionals who are paid to write!
I have an understanding that headlines are meant to grab the eye.
What a pity you've never learned what a "rhetorical device" is:
"Hyperbole
Hyperbole is deliberate exaggeration. This can be for literary effect:"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_device#Hyperbole>
Simple fact:
The ordinary meaning of "sacked" with regard to employment means
"dismissed from employment"
Cambridge Dictionary:
" the sack
B2 [ S ] UK
a situation in which someone is removed from their job:"
Apparently you don't just know better than professional writers, you
know better than Cambridge University Press.
Not offered another job.
No mention in the Cambridge definition of being dismissed from an organisation or anything to do with being offered or not offered an alternative job as that is totally irrelevant to the person being
dismissed from the job they had
Not even demoted.
Get over it.
You're the one who needs to get over it, you started a stupid argument
and hubris won't let you face up to it.
1. Masi tells the teams especially that for the last race any safety car
period near the end of the race will be ended as quickly as possible?
Do you think that was his idea alone to deliver that message?
I dare say he consulted with those in the room with him but there is
no reason to think he hot some sort of secret missive from *above* as
you are convinced of.
2. The FIA is keeping the results of the inquiry private.
Do you think they would do that if the results cast them in a good light?
The results don't show them in a good light; Massi was appointed by
them so his cockup which tarnished the WDC reflects on them. All they
want at this stage is to get rid of it.
3. They have not fired Masi. They've offered him a different job.
He had a job and he has been involuntarily removed from that job by
his superiors. You don't accept the word "sacked" so what word would
you use for it?
Do you think he's actually going to be offered a position that's a demotion?
I haven't a clue what it means in terms of ranking within the FIA ,
salary or other benefits but that has nothing to do with it anyway -
he was very publicly sacked from his job as RD.
Do you think a condition of his getting that new position is that he
does not discuss what actually went on before, during and after the 2021
Bahrain GP?
Your question presumes that there is something underhand to be
discussed - you have produced absolutely nothing to support that idea
which is clearly all in your mind.
Get real guys.
My racing season is still nearly two MONTHS away.
My racing season is still nearly two MONTHS away.
On 2022-02-28 3:12 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
3. They have not fired Masi. They've offered him a different job.
He had a job and he has been involuntarily removed from that job by
his superiors. You don't accept the word "sacked" so what word would
you use for it?
Not "sacked".
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't agree
with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon first losses. >>>>>>
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-reacts-to-michael-masi-f1-exit/
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't agree
with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
Whether or not Michael Masi was rCLsackedrCY or rCLmovedrCY is a matter of semantics, the fact is that, as a result of a number of dubious decisions, the most egregious of which was his failure to apply the rules correctly at Abu Dhabi, he has been removed from the position of Race Director.
Apart from the fact that you seem unable to resist the temptation to
indulge in polemics I do not understand why you apparently seek to excuse Masi on the grounds that you think he was, consciously or unconsciously, being manipulated by sinister commercial interests, presumably Liberty
Media.
Masi is (or likely to be rCLwasrCY) employed by the FIA, which is the regulatory body of F1. As such it is, or certainly should be, an
independent arbiter. If, as you suggest, his decisions were influenced by
the commercial rights holder then he is doubly guilty and what most of us think of as his rCLsackingrCY doubly justified.
On 3/1/2022 12:55 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
Alan <nope@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-23 12:38 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:43:33 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-02-22 1:56 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022, at 6:57:05 PM UTC, News wrote:
For now. But will revert to accusatory and rabid upon
first losses.
"F1 race director Michael Masi has been sacked."
But he hasn't been sacked - at least not according to a
regular poster here!
You've never heard of rhetorical language, have you?
You mean when people use an everyday expresion that you don't
agree with?
"Sacked" is most definitely an everyday expression.
And it's everday meaning is "dismissed from employment".
Not "offered a different job".
Whether or not Michael Masi was rCLsackedrCY or rCLmovedrCY is a matter of semantics, the fact is that, as a result of a number of dubious
decisions, the most egregious of which was his failure to apply the
rules correctly at Abu Dhabi, he has been removed from the position
of Race Director.
Apart from the fact that you seem unable to resist the temptation to indulge in polemics I do not understand why you apparently seek to
excuse Masi on the grounds that you think he was, consciously or unconsciously, being manipulated by sinister commercial interests, presumably Liberty Media.
Masi is (or likely to be rCLwasrCY) employed by the FIA, which is the regulatory body of F1. As such it is, or certainly should be, an independent arbiter. If, as you suggest, his decisions were
influenced by the commercial rights holder then he is doubly guilty
and what most of us think of as his rCLsackingrCY doubly justified.
If so, Liberty brought the sport into disrepute, not spectacle.
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