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    From Geoff May@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Mar 27 17:29:45 2022
    I've been watching and enjoying Formula-E since it started but, this
    weekend's race in Rome is not covered on any of my available TV
    channels. If I want to watch live, I have to watch on the YouTube channel.

    I have several complaints about this:
    1 - YouTube has more adverts than QVC.

    2 - They keep telling us that the future of motoring and racing is going
    to be electric and yet they witless wonders that are in charge cannot be bothered to cover the electric racing series.

    Cheers

    Geoff
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  • From a425couple@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Mar 27 16:54:12 2022
    On 3/27/2022 9:29 AM, Geoff May wrote:
    I've been watching and enjoying Formula-E since it started but, this weekend's race in Rome is not covered on any of my available TV
    channels. If I want to watch live, I have to watch on the YouTube channel.


    I'm happy if you are enjoying it.

    2 - They keep telling us that the future of motoring
    and racing is going
    to be electric and yet they witless wonders that are in
    charge cannot be
    bothered to cover the electric racing series.
    Cheers
    Geoff


    I do not see the draw for spectators.
    They are slower than Formula Ford.
    They can not run for very long.
    No real sound.
    How is this supposed to draw new fans?
    And / Or How is this supposed to draw sponsors
    to pay the costs to put it on decent TV?
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  • From CS@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 28 04:07:39 2022
    Don't think there was an FE Rome race the w/e just gone?? I have 9 April for the 2022 race.
    Sam Bird, who drives Jaguar #10, was in Jeddah commentating for BBC Radio.
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  • From Geoff May@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 28 20:26:10 2022
    On 28/03/2022 12:07, CS wrote:
    Don't think there was an FE Rome race the w/e just gone?? I have 9 April for the 2022 race.
    Sam Bird, who drives Jaguar #10, was in Jeddah commentating for BBC Radio.

    Sorry, that was a mistype, I meant the weekend after (i.e. the 9th April).

    I was looking on the official FE page and they have links to where the
    races will be shown but for the UK, it is only available on YouTube.

    Cheers

    Geoff
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  • From Calum@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 28 20:49:29 2022
    On 28/03/2022 20:26, Geoff May wrote:
    On 28/03/2022 12:07, CS wrote:
    Don't think there was an FE Rome race the w/e just gone??-a I have 9
    April for the 2022 race.
    Sam Bird, who drives Jaguar #10, was in Jeddah commentating for BBC
    Radio.

    Sorry, that was a mistype, I meant the weekend after (i.e. the 9th April).

    I was looking on the official FE page and they have links to where the
    races will be shown but for the UK, it is only available on YouTube.

    "All 16 races on the 2022 calendar will be shown live on Channel 4
    platforms including its main channel, online via All4 and the Channel 4 YouTube channel."

    <https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/formula-e-tv-2022-calendar-schedule/>
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 28 20:19:48 2022
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/27/2022 9:29 AM, Geoff May wrote:
    I've been watching and enjoying Formula-E since it started but, this
    weekend's race in Rome is not covered on any of my available TV
    channels. If I want to watch live, I have to watch on the YouTube channel. >>

    I'm happy if you are enjoying it.

    2 - They keep telling us that the future of motoring
    and racing is going
    to be electric and yet they witless wonders that are in
    charge cannot be
    bothered to cover the electric racing series.
    Cheers
    Geoff


    I do not see the draw for spectators.
    They are slower than Formula Ford.
    They can not run for very long.
    No real sound.
    How is this supposed to draw new fans?
    And / Or How is this supposed to draw sponsors
    to pay the costs to put it on decent TV?


    I think that the FIA is soon going to have to consider seriously the
    direction it intends F1 to take in the future.

    Grands Prix originally took the form of races for road going cars. They
    were enthusiastically supported by manufacturers as a showcase for their products and it has always been argued that racing, particularly F1, drove development which could later be used to improve road cars. Of course there
    is a huge difference between the family saloon and an F1 car but they still both have four wheels and an internal combustion engine. However it is now pretty clear that the future of road cars is electric so it is likely that
    even the most tenuous connection to F1 will be lost.

    For the reasons that you state I find it difficult to image that, if it
    were to go electric, F1 could attract the massive audience that it
    currently enjoys. To maintain its position as the premier racing category
    F1 needs to be seen to involve the fastest, most highly developed cars
    driven by the worldrCOs finest drivers, but these cars could still be powered by internal combustion engines even though any connection to road going
    cars would be lost.

    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 28 16:36:30 2022
    On 3/28/2022 4:19 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/27/2022 9:29 AM, Geoff May wrote:
    I've been watching and enjoying Formula-E since it started but, this
    weekend's race in Rome is not covered on any of my available TV
    channels. If I want to watch live, I have to watch on the YouTube channel. >>>

    I'm happy if you are enjoying it.

    2 - They keep telling us that the future of motoring
    and racing is going
    to be electric and yet they witless wonders that are in
    charge cannot be
    bothered to cover the electric racing series.
    Cheers
    Geoff


    I do not see the draw for spectators.
    They are slower than Formula Ford.
    They can not run for very long.
    No real sound.
    How is this supposed to draw new fans?
    And / Or How is this supposed to draw sponsors
    to pay the costs to put it on decent TV?


    I think that the FIA is soon going to have to consider seriously the direction it intends F1 to take in the future.

    Grands Prix originally took the form of races for road going cars. They
    were enthusiastically supported by manufacturers as a showcase for their products and it has always been argued that racing, particularly F1, drove development which could later be used to improve road cars. Of course there is a huge difference between the family saloon and an F1 car but they still both have four wheels and an internal combustion engine. However it is now pretty clear that the future of road cars is electric so it is likely that even the most tenuous connection to F1 will be lost.

    For the reasons that you state I find it difficult to image that, if it
    were to go electric, F1 could attract the massive audience that it
    currently enjoys. To maintain its position as the premier racing category
    F1 needs to be seen to involve the fastest, most highly developed cars
    driven by the worldrCOs finest drivers, but these cars could still be powered by internal combustion engines even though any connection to road going
    cars would be lost.



    Bring back an unlimited competition class, an updated Group 7 series.
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  • From Geoff May@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 28 21:46:17 2022
    On 28/03/2022 20:49, Calum wrote:
    On 28/03/2022 20:26, Geoff May wrote:
    On 28/03/2022 12:07, CS wrote:
    Don't think there was an FE Rome race the w/e just gone??-a I have 9
    April for the 2022 race.
    Sam Bird, who drives Jaguar #10, was in Jeddah commentating for BBC
    Radio.

    Sorry, that was a mistype, I meant the weekend after (i.e. the 9th
    April).

    I was looking on the official FE page and they have links to where the
    races will be shown but for the UK, it is only available on YouTube.

    "All 16 races on the 2022 calendar will be shown live on Channel 4
    platforms including its main channel, online via All4 and the Channel 4 YouTube channel."

    <https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/formula-e-tv-2022-calendar-schedule/>

    I shall withdraw my whinge if that turns out to be the case :)

    Thank you

    Geoff
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  • From Phil Carmody@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 29 01:17:57 2022
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> writes:
    On 3/27/2022 9:29 AM, Geoff May wrote:
    I've been watching and enjoying Formula-E since it started but, this
    weekend's race in Rome is not covered on any of my available TV
    channels. If I want to watch live, I have to watch on the YouTube
    channel.

    I'm happy if you are enjoying it.

    2 - They keep telling us that the future of motoring and racing is
    going to be electric and yet they witless wonders that are in
    charge cannot be bothered to cover the electric racing series.
    Cheers
    Geoff

    I do not see the draw for spectators.
    They are slower than Formula Ford.
    They can not run for very long.
    No real sound.
    How is this supposed to draw new fans?

    Open and part-filled bottles strapped to the chassis, so that as they
    drive they play notes.

    And / Or How is this supposed to draw sponsors
    to pay the costs to put it on decent TV?

    Could bring in more beer sponsorship?
    Or milk?

    Phil
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  • From Geoff May@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 6 20:49:06 2022
    On 28/03/2022 21:46, Geoff May wrote:
    On 28/03/2022 20:49, Calum wrote:
    On 28/03/2022 20:26, Geoff May wrote:
    On 28/03/2022 12:07, CS wrote:
    Don't think there was an FE Rome race the w/e just gone??-a I have 9
    April for the 2022 race.
    Sam Bird, who drives Jaguar #10, was in Jeddah commentating for BBC
    Radio.

    Sorry, that was a mistype, I meant the weekend after (i.e. the 9th
    April).

    I was looking on the official FE page and they have links to where
    the races will be shown but for the UK, it is only available on YouTube.

    "All 16 races on the 2022 calendar will be shown live on Channel 4
    platforms including its main channel, online via All4 and the Channel
    4 YouTube channel."

    <https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/formula-e-tv-2022-calendar-schedule/>

    I shall withdraw my whinge if that turns out to be the case :)

    Appears as though I have to withdraw my whinge but, in my defence, I was expecting the official site to this for all races. Looks like the only
    update the week before the race.

    Cheers

    Geoff
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