and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological after effectslol
of last yearrCOs fiasco.
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that Russell is managing to
extract more performance from his car than Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because George has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive car. Sounds plausible.
--Hmmm. Seems your memory is weakening.
Sir Tim
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver and,
of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because George
has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive car. Sounds plausible.
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver and,
of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because George
has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive car. Sounds plausible.
On 25/04/2022 6:05 am, Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver
and,
of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological after
effects
of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that Russell is
managing to
extract more performance from his car than Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because George
has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive car. Sounds
plausible.
I might have missed something (it was 1AM-3AM when I was watching), but apart from a good passing manoeuvre (or maybe two), didn't he otherwise
end up where he was by default, and like everybody else pretty much
remained in the train that most the race was ?
On 2022-04-24 9:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
I might have missed something (it was 1AM-3AM when I was watching),
but apart from a good passing manoeuvre (or maybe two), didn't he
otherwise end up where he was by default, and like everybody else
pretty much remained in the train that most the race was ?
Russell started the race 11th on the grid, and finished in 4th.
If Ricciardo hadn't had contact with Sainz and Leclerc hadn't
overcooked it in one chicane, he would have finished 6th, and that is
still 5 passes for position.
On 4/25/2022 12:42 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2022-04-24 9:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
I might have missed something (it was 1AM-3AM when I was watching),
-abut apart from a good passing manoeuvre (or maybe two), didn't he
-aotherwise end up where he was by default, and like everybody else
-apretty much remained in the train that most the race was ?
Russell started the race 11th on the grid, and finished in 4th.
If Ricciardo hadn't had contact with Sainz and Leclerc hadn't
overcooked it in one chicane, he would have finished 6th, and that is
still 5 passes for position.
He picked up 4 of those on the first lap (not counting Sainz crashing
out).-a His only pass after that was on Magnussen.
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver
and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological
after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that
Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than
Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because
George has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive
car. Sounds plausible.
On 25/04/2022 6:05 am, Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driverI might have missed something (it was 1AM-3AM when I was watching), but
and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological
after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that
Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than
Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because
George has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive car.
Sounds plausible.
apart from a good passing manoeuvre (or maybe two), didn't he otherwise
end up where he was by default, and like everybody else pretty much
remained in the train that most the race was ?
geoff
I'm sorry, but it doesn't sound plausible to me.
If Ricciardo hadn't had contact with Sainz and Leclerc hadn't overcooked
it in one chicane, he would have finished 6th, and that is still 5
passes for position.
So?
Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver
and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological
after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that
Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than
Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because
George has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive
car. Sounds plausible.
It might partially be because he has better been able to adapt to a key feature of the Mercedes design i.e. the way it bunny hops down anything remotely like a straight...
...and part of that might be because he is better motivated.
Hamilton is out there to win number eight. He seems to have already
accepted this cannot happen this year and is de-energised.
Russell, is in his ascendency. While disappointed he is still highly motivated by being in a championship winning team, with what still
might be a decent car if they can find a way to mitigate the asphalt pounding. He is in a car capable of fighting at the front of the
mid-field that is still quite a step forward from the Williams.
It would be interesting to see an overlay of their laps to see where
the time differences are and to know if Hamilton has done anything
different, perhaps to go towards driveability over performance.
Russell might be good enough to take the fight to Hamilton no matter
what the car but the porpoising is a rather unique handicap so it's
difficult to assess how he really compares.
Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver
and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological
after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that
Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than
Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because
George has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive
car. Sounds plausible.
It might partially be because he has better been able to adapt to a key feature of the Mercedes design i.e. the way it bunny hops down anything remotely like a straight...
...and part of that might be because he is better motivated.
Hamilton is out there to win number eight. He seems to have already
accepted this cannot happen this year and is de-energised.
Russell, is in his ascendency. While disappointed he is still highly motivated by being in a championship winning team, with what still
might be a decent car if they can find a way to mitigate the asphalt pounding. He is in a car capable of fighting at the front of the
mid-field that is still quite a step forward from the Williams.
It would be interesting to see an overlay of their laps to see where
the time differences are and to know if Hamilton has done anything
different, perhaps to go towards driveability over performance.
Russell might be good enough to take the fight to Hamilton no matter
what the car but the porpoising is a rather unique handicap so it's
difficult to assess how he really compares.
On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:16:27 +1200, geoff wrote:
On 25/04/2022 6:05 am, Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driverI might have missed something (it was 1AM-3AM when I was watching), but
and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological
after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that
Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than
Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because
George has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive car.
Sounds plausible.
apart from a good passing manoeuvre (or maybe two), didn't he otherwise
end up where he was by default, and like everybody else pretty much
remained in the train that most the race was ?
geoff
I think Ham made a tactical error it continuing to hound Gasley.
had he backed off Gasley may have been able to pass Albon, instead of defending & then the DRS chain would have been broken, making both Albon & Gaasley considerably easier
On 2022-04-25 6:41 AM, Bigbird wrote:
Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver
and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological
after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that
Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than
Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because
George has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive
car. Sounds plausible.
It might partially be because he has better been able to adapt to a key
feature of the Mercedes design i.e. the way it bunny hops down anything
remotely like a straight...
...and part of that might be because he is better motivated.
Hamilton is out there to win number eight. He seems to have already
accepted this cannot happen this year and is de-energised.
Russell, is in his ascendency. While disappointed he is still highly
motivated by being in a championship winning team, with what still
might be a decent car if they can find a way to mitigate the asphalt
pounding. He is in a car capable of fighting at the front of the
mid-field that is still quite a step forward from the Williams.
It would be interesting to see an overlay of their laps to see where
the time differences are and to know if Hamilton has done anything
different, perhaps to go towards driveability over performance.
Russell might be good enough to take the fight to Hamilton no matter
what the car but the porpoising is a rather unique handicap so it's
difficult to assess how he really compares.
The Sky commentators have mentioned several times that Verstappen likes
a "pointy" car setup and that Perez prefers a stable rear end.
I don't recall hearing anything about how Hamilton and Russell like
their respective setups, but I do wonder if Hamilton just doesn't feel
as comfortable with the Mercedes -- whatever its characteristics are --
as Russell does.
Perhaps the Mercedes handles more like the Williams that Russell had--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
gotten to grips with, he is more comfortable and can coax more speed out
of the car than Hamilton (who is trying to cope with a car that doesn't handle the way he likes.)
It certainly is an interesting development, whatever the underlying
reason, that Russell is doing comparatively better than Hamilton.
That is very possible.
That's certainly possible in a purely theoretical sense...
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver and,
of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because George
has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive car. Sounds plausible.
On 2022-04-25 6:41 AM, Bigbird wrote:
Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver
and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological
after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that
Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than
Lewis.
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because
George has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive
car. Sounds plausible.
It might partially be because he has better been able to adapt to a key
feature of the Mercedes design i.e. the way it bunny hops down anything
remotely like a straight...
...and part of that might be because he is better motivated.
Hamilton is out there to win number eight. He seems to have already
accepted this cannot happen this year and is de-energised.
Russell, is in his ascendency. While disappointed he is still highly
motivated by being in a championship winning team, with what still
might be a decent car if they can find a way to mitigate the asphalt
pounding. He is in a car capable of fighting at the front of the
mid-field that is still quite a step forward from the Williams.
It would be interesting to see an overlay of their laps to see where
the time differences are and to know if Hamilton has done anything
different, perhaps to go towards driveability over performance.
Russell might be good enough to take the fight to Hamilton no matter
what the car but the porpoising is a rather unique handicap so it's
difficult to assess how he really compares.
The Sky commentators have mentioned several times that Verstappen likes
a "pointy" car setup and that Perez prefers a stable rear end.
I don't recall hearing anything about how Hamilton and Russell like
their respective setups, but I do wonder if Hamilton just doesn't feel
as comfortable with the Mercedes -- whatever its characteristics are --
as Russell does.
On 25/04/2022 4:05 am, Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver and, >> of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological after effects >> of last year?s fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that Russell is managing to >> extract more performance from his car than Lewis.?The true measure of a man is not how he behaves in moments of comfort
The 5 Live commentators were suggesting that this might be because George
has had a couple of years struggling with an uncompetitive car. Sounds
plausible.
and convenience but how he stands at times of controversy and challenges.?
? Martin Luther King Jr.
On 4/25/22 15:01, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2022-04-25 6:41 AM, Bigbird wrote:
Sir Tim wrote:
Most of us have always acknowledged that GR is a very talented driver
and, of course, Hamilton must still be suffering the psychological
after effects of last yearrCOs fiasco. Nevertheless it is clear that
Russell is managing to extract more performance from his car than
Lewis.
I don't think any of them Rus/ham is very happy with their car, it bumps
way too much. Just like Ferrari BTW, the RB seems much more stable and
way easier to drive.
Alternatively, consider the physical demands on Hamilton (at 37, the
second oldest driver) compared with Russell (at 24, the seventh
youngest). That level of vibration is not going to suit an older person
(no matter how fit) compared with a younger person. It won't suit either
(of course), but fixing the porpoising may well change the relative
Il 26/04/2022 10:25, Mark ha scritto:
Alternatively, consider the physical demands on Hamilton (at 37, the
second oldest driver) compared with Russell (at 24, the seventh
youngest). That level of vibration is not going to suit an older person
(no matter how fit) compared with a younger person. It won't suit either
(of course), but fixing the porpoising may well change the relative
So... better if LH retires.
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