• 2022 MIAMI DOTD

    From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 8 14:46:18 2022
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 8 15:03:59 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 7:46:20 AM UTC+10, build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.

    Interesting that after the interviews, George looked like the team leader while Toto was busy making excuses.

    build
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  • From XYXPDQ@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 8 17:11:19 2022
    Wasn't sure till the safety car made the end of the race interesting.

    Max gets DotD. Tip of the hat to Russell and Leclerc.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 8 17:31:41 2022
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 13:29:38 2022
    On 9/05/2022 12:11 pm, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Wasn't sure till the safety car made the end of the race interesting.

    Max gets DotD. Tip of the hat to Russell and Leclerc.

    George is a bloody good driver but he didn't do anything noteworthy at Miami (other than getting
    the rub of the green yet again).

    My DOTD is Leclerc (just) for pushing Verstappen (who was in the faster race car) right to the end.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 8 19:09:10 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:11:20 AM UTC+10, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Wasn't sure till the safety car made the end of the race interesting.

    Max gets DotD. Tip of the hat to Russell and Leclerc.
    Best part of the race was watching the battles through the middle of the race. Max and Charles trading laps versus tyre wear, great stuff. You'll get the hang of it after a few years. Try watching the timing screen so you can see all the battles more clearly.
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 8 19:11:38 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:29:43 AM UTC+10, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:11 pm, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Wasn't sure till the safety car made the end of the race interesting.

    Max gets DotD. Tip of the hat to Russell and Leclerc.
    George is a bloody good driver but he didn't do anything noteworthy at Miami (other than getting
    the rub of the green yet again).

    My DOTD is Leclerc (just) for pushing Verstappen (who was in the faster race car) right to the end.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

    This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

    Yeah, the weight of that jewellery must be slowing Lewis down enough for George to pass him twice.

    build
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 14:52:17 2022
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck yet
    again.

    geoff
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 8 21:20:26 2022
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 16:58:35 2022
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 8 22:23:08 2022
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but >>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 17:24:56 2022
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but >>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.

    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 01:59:24 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but >>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>> yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff

    Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !

    build
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 23:32:39 2022
    On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but >>>>>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>> yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff

    Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !

    build

    Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.

    And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got from it.

    geoff
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  • From Alan LeHun@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 14:30:01 2022
    In article <nPKdnRmx0NRKZuX_nZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org says...
    And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got from it.


    HAM did that to himself. He was given the choice and said he didn't want
    to give the place to RUS.

    RUS took it anyway. We could all see that was going to happen.

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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 08:20:12 2022
    On 2022-05-09 4:32 a.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of >>>>>>>>> luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well. >>>>>>>>>

    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>>> yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff

    Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !

    build

    Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.

    And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got from
    it.

    geoff

    "He caused the red flag"
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  • From Phil Carmody@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 19:58:41 2022
    geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> writes:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but >>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    There was a message from RUS to the pits a few laps before the incident
    that was along the lines of ~"Should we just stay on the hards in case
    there's a safety car?", to which the pit concurred with a simple "affirm",
    or similar.

    So yes, he was very much in full control of his tyre strategy at that
    point, and that investment paid off handsomely.

    Which contrasts him against Lewis' ~"I don't know, that's your job"
    in response to a question about whether he wanted to change tyres
    several laps into the safety car period.

    However, much as I think his strategic smarts, and subsequent overtake
    of a 7 time world champion in the same car are a strong argument for
    RUS, my DotD has to go to the guy who caused a couple of Italians in the
    pub to be wailing and swearing and hand-waving and generally getting
    their nappies in a twist, good old double-Ferrai-beater VER.

    Phil
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 10:20:32 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:20:15 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    "He caused the red flag"

    fuck off pussy
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue May 10 10:19:09 2022
    On 10/05/2022 1:30 am, Alan LeHun wrote:
    In article <nPKdnRmx0NRKZuX_nZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org says...
    And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got from it. >>

    HAM did that to himself. He was given the choice and said he didn't want
    to give the place to RUS.

    Did he actually himself opt for tyres that would make it inevitable that
    RUS would come out on top, and that he would not be able to potentially
    climb up to a podium position ? If so, then he must have ongoing
    brain-fog from his Covid bout.


    RUS took it anyway. We could all see that was going to happen.

    Certainly with HAM on new hards !

    geoff
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue May 10 10:20:45 2022
    On 10/05/2022 3:20 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-09 4:32 a.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of >>>>>>>>>> luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well. >>>>>>>>>>

    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>>>> yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy
    leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff

    Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !

    build

    Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.

    And the team somehow managed to f-up any benefit HAM would have got
    from it.

    geoff

    "He caused the red flag"

    Um, ever heard of a joke ?

    geoff
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 15:48:30 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 4:21:00 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    Um, ever heard of a joke ?

    he sees one in the mirror
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue May 10 12:29:56 2022
    On 10/05/2022 4:58 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
    <snip>
    There was a message from RUS to the pits a few laps before the incident
    that was along the lines of ~"Should we just stay on the hards in case there's a safety car?", to which the pit concurred with a simple "affirm",
    or similar.

    So yes, he was very much in full control of his tyre strategy at that
    point, and that investment paid off handsomely.

    That was a pretty simple decision though, push the pitstop back in case he could gain >10 seconds
    on the field. His tyres weren't getting much worse lap by lap so it was a no brainer. His strategy
    was designed so that his pitstop was flexible due to his poor qualifying.

    Which contrasts him against Lewis' ~"I don't know, that's your job"
    in response to a question about whether he wanted to change tyres
    several laps into the safety car period.

    When you're at the pointy end of the field and have made your mandatory stop that's a far more
    complex decision which required second-by-second knowledge of exactly where following cars were.
    Lewis was right, THAT decision was the job of a strategist with all of the information that a
    driver doesn't have.

    Also George asked his engineer a question on strategy whereas Lewis' engineer asked Lewis a question.

    However, much as I think his strategic smarts,
    Ehhh.... He asked a question to which the answer was obvious to the engineer who had access to the
    relative speeds of the cars in front and behind. Hardly rocket surgery.

    and subsequent overtake
    of a 7 time world champion in the same car

    Same car but very different tyres. Not only was George on the preferred compound but they were 18
    laps newer than Lewis' old hards. If he HADN'T passed him then I'd have been very surprised.

    Don't get me wrong, I think George has what it takes to be a multiple world champion* but a little
    perspective goes a long way...

    are a strong argument for
    RUS, my DotD has to go to the guy who caused a couple of Italians in the
    pub to be wailing and swearing and hand-waving and generally getting
    their nappies in a twist, good old double-Ferrai-beater VER.

    Phil

    [*] As does Lewis - did you notice that this year Lewis' car is carrying the fluoro flashes on the
    camera housings (which were on Bottas' car last year) that traditionally designate a teams second car?

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 20:34:18 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 6:30:00 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

    [*] As does Lewis - did you notice that this year Lewis' car is carrying the fluoro flashes on the
    camera housings (which were on Bottas' car last year) that traditionally designate a teams second car?

    take off your tin foil hat
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 21:23:40 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:32:46 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well. >>>>>>>>

    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>> yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff

    Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !
    build
    Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.
    geoff
    You did. It's above but here you go.
    [QUOTE]
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?
    geoff
    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    [END QUOTE]
    Your infatuation with Lewis is not healthy. Others are celebrating a great battle between Lewis and George while you are stuck in your own tunnel vision. This is the start of what may be one of the best battles we will ever see between team mates and indeed between teams with RedBull, Ferrari and Merc and their great drivers, Max, Checo, Charles, Carlos, Lewis and George. All great teams and great drivers battling for the title. We are being spoilt right now. Enjoy it, celebrate it. We are watching history being made.
    I know my boys will talk about their dads obsession with motorsport, driving and watching it on TV. And, in particular "his excitement about the 2022 season."
    build
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 21:58:47 2022
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:30:00 AM UTC+10, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 4:58 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
    <snip>
    There was a message from RUS to the pits a few laps before the incident that was along the lines of ~"Should we just stay on the hards in case there's a safety car?", to which the pit concurred with a simple "affirm", or similar.

    So yes, he was very much in full control of his tyre strategy at that point, and that investment paid off handsomely.
    That was a pretty simple decision though, push the pitstop back in case he could gain >10 seconds
    No. The difference between a normal stop which took 20-22 secs of race time or "Pit Gap Delta" or "Pit Loss Time" and a Virtual Safety Car which takes 16-17 secs "Pit Gap Delta" is only 4-6 secs (not >10 secs). While I rarely listen to the commentators during the race, I'm sure they would have pointed that out. They certainly discussed it in the pre-race rambling.
    on the field. His tyres weren't getting much worse lap by lap so it was a no brainer. His strategy
    was designed so that his pitstop was flexible due to his poor qualifying.
    [SNIP]
    --
    Shaun.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 22:13:10 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:58:48 PM UTC-6, build wrote:

    While I rarely listen to the commentators during the race,

    what a crock of shit
    fuck off moron
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon May 9 23:11:17 2022
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 3:14:49 AM UTC+10, Phil Carmody wrote:
    geoff <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org> writes:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but >>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?
    There was a message from RUS to the pits a few laps before the incident
    that was along the lines of ~"Should we just stay on the hards in case there's a safety car?", to which the pit concurred with a simple "affirm", or similar.

    So yes, he was very much in full control of his tyre strategy at that
    point, and that investment paid off handsomely.

    Which contrasts him against Lewis' ~"I don't know, that's your job"
    in response to a question about whether he wanted to change tyres
    several laps into the safety car period.

    However, much as I think his strategic smarts, and subsequent overtake
    of a 7 time world champion in the same car are a strong argument for
    RUS, my DotD has to go to the guy who caused a couple of Italians in the
    pub to be wailing and swearing and hand-waving and generally getting
    their nappies in a twist, good old double-Ferrai-beater VER.

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
    gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
    aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/
    Phil,
    It is worth noting both drivers had limited tyre options under the new tyre usage rules.
    For the race they only had these tyres:
    Lewis had: 3 "used" Soft, 1 new Medium (he started on those), 2 new Hard. Total 6 sets.
    George had: 2 new Soft, 2 used Soft, 1 new Medium, 2 new Hard (he started on those). Total 7 sets.
    George had 7 sets left, one more than Lewis because he did not get to Q3. (that's all on the FIA site. Someone might like to post the link)
    So Lewis could not stop for new 'Soft' or any 'Med' tyres. His only choice was new 'Hard' or 'Used Soft'. I thought about that at the time. Lewis can come alive with "adverse changes", he becomes that extraordinary driver we love. The new hard option was not an option because they took 2-3 laps to 'come in', or to warm through. He'd lose too much time. The used soft simply would not last to the end. If they had a new set of Mediums I reckon they would not have stopped either. Look at his times in the first stint on mediums. Even taking into account fuel loads.
    There is a site where you can replay the "live timing" and see how it all panned out but there was nothing "wrong" with Lewis's strategy apart from, maybe he should have started on hard. BUT, that may well have cost him positions at the start.
    NOTE# George did start on the hard tyre knowing he'd possibly lose places and indeed he did, he dropped from 13th to 15th. They would have put that into their race plan.
    The fact is Lewis's lap times were not there. George was faster on the hard when Lewis on the medium. And, George was faster on the medium when Lewis was on the Hard. On another track, on another day those could easily be reversed or be equal.
    ---
    George is one of those extraordinary drivers. I think he is better than all the others at this time, but we will see, I may well be wrong (that's the good bit). The great thing about this period of time in F1 is that there are so many "great" drivers, not just one or two. We have Lewis, Max, Charles, George and Nando (Seb?), all exceptionally "great" drivers. All of them could be 7 times champions in a car like "that Merc" the one that took 8 titles. And, backing up those are possibly great drivers are Checo, Carlos, Lando, Dan. On a good day we have Esteban, Valtteri, KMag and Pierre, possAlex, to entertain us with occasional exception drives. Think of Estebans drive last year. KMag, Alex and Valtteri were very good and very entertaining in Miami.
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue May 10 22:45:06 2022
    On 10/05/2022 4:23 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:32:46 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well. >>>>>>>>>>

    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>>>> yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff

    Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !
    build
    Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.
    geoff

    You did. It's above but here you go.
    [QUOTE]
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?
    geoff
    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    [END QUOTE]

    Ever heard of a rhetorical question ? Generally means the assertion is opposite to the question at face-value. A bit complicated, eh.


    Your infatuation with Lewis is not healthy. Others are celebrating a great battle between Lewis and George while you are stuck in your own tunnel vision. This is the start of what may be one of the best battles we will ever see between team mates and indeed between teams with RedBull, Ferrari and Merc and their great drivers, Max, Checo, Charles, Carlos, Lewis and George. All great teams and great drivers battling for the title. We are being spoilt right now. Enjoy it, celebrate it. We are watching history being made.

    I know my boys will talk about their dads obsession with motorsport, driving and watching it on TV. And, in particular "his excitement about the 2022 season."



    Also would love to see a good competition, preferably in even circumstances.

    geoff
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue May 10 04:13:27 2022
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:45:14 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 4:23 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:32:46 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well. >>>>>>>>>>

    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>>>> yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff

    Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !
    build
    Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.
    geoff

    You did. It's above but here you go.
    [QUOTE]
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?
    geoff
    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    [END QUOTE]
    Ever heard of a rhetorical question ? Generally means the assertion is opposite to the question at face-value. A bit complicated, eh.
    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you?
    If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly suggest you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need help to get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.

    Your infatuation with Lewis is not healthy. Others are celebrating a great battle between Lewis and George while you are stuck in your own tunnel vision. This is the start of what may be one of the best battles we will ever see between team mates and indeed between teams with RedBull, Ferrari and Merc and their great drivers, Max, Checo, Charles, Carlos, Lewis and George. All great teams and great drivers battling for the title. We are being spoilt right now. Enjoy it, celebrate it. We are watching history being made.

    I know my boys will talk about their dads obsession with motorsport, driving and watching it on TV. And, in particular "his excitement about the 2022 season."
    Also would love to see a good competition, preferably in even circumstances.

    geoff
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed May 11 10:40:16 2022
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:45:14 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 4:23 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:32:46 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 8:59 pm, build wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 3:25:03 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>>>>>> yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>>>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.

    geoff

    Who "caused the SC" ??? Not George !
    build
    Never suggested he did. But did did a huge benefit from it.
    geoff

    You did. It's above but here you go.
    [QUOTE]
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>> that part at least) ?
    geoff
    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    [END QUOTE]
    Ever heard of a rhetorical question ? Generally means the assertion is
    opposite to the question at face-value. A bit complicated, eh.

    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.


    Statements are not generally ended with a question-mark.

    geoff
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue May 10 17:55:44 2022
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 4:40:24 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    Statements are not generally ended with a question-mark.

    cant say you dont have a life
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 13 14:19:32 2022
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you?
    If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly suggest you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need help to get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.

    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a
    certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had
    made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening,
    and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the final
    stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu May 12 19:30:31 2022
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 8:19:40 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had
    made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening,
    and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the final stint ?

    fuck off with the excessive punctuation
    form a sentence
    you do need help
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 13 02:04:40 2022
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:19:40 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you?
    If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly suggest you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need help to get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.
    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had
    made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening,
    and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the final stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff

    Here is the full conversation. QUOTE:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.
    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    END QUOTE.

    There is no joke, nothing rhetorical. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

    Bye,
    build
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 13 09:22:53 2022
    On 2022-05-13 2:04 a.m., build wrote:
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:19:40 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you?
    If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly suggest you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need help to get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.
    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a
    certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had
    made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening,
    and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the final
    stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff

    Here is the full conversation. QUOTE:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.
    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    END QUOTE.

    There is no joke, nothing rhetorical. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 13 10:05:05 2022
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 10:22:57 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...

    fag
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 13 10:07:56 2022
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 10:22:57 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...

    you are a fucking joke
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat May 14 13:35:38 2022
    On 14/05/2022 4:22 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 2:04 a.m., build wrote:
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:19:40 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement.
    Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you?
    If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly suggest
    you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need help to
    get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.
    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a
    certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had
    made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening,
    and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the final
    stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff

    Here is the full conversation. QUOTE:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>> yet again.
    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    END QUOTE.

    There is no joke, nothing rhetorical. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...

    How could it remotely be considered to not have been ?!!

    geoff
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 13 19:56:08 2022
    On 2022-05-13 6:35 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 14/05/2022 4:22 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 2:04 a.m., build wrote:
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:19:40 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement. >>>>> Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you? >>>>> If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly suggest >>>>> you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need help to
    get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.
    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a
    certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had
    made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening,
    and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the final >>>> stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff

    Here is the full conversation. QUOTE:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>>> yet again.
    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    END QUOTE.

    There is no joke, nothing rhetorical. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...

    How could it remotely be considered to not have been ?!!

    geoff


    Text is a terrible medium for humour.

    Take it as a given that I have a reasonable sense of humour...

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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat May 14 07:31:05 2022
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 8:56:13 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Take it as a given that I have a reasonable sense of humour...

    oh ok dullard
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat May 14 18:59:23 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:22:57 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 2:04 a.m., build wrote:
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:19:40 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you? >>> If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly suggest you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need help to get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.
    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a
    certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had
    made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening,
    and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the final >> stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff

    Here is the full conversation. QUOTE:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>> yet again.
    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in
    that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    END QUOTE.

    There is no joke, nothing rhetorical. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...

    Reread the thread. He stated GR caused the red flag.
    Then when corrected he repeated his "joke".
    Nah, he was serious. Sadly.
    Good of you though.

    build
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat May 14 20:25:59 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 7:59:25 PM UTC-6, build wrote:

    Reread the thread.

    fuck off bozo
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat May 14 21:00:51 2022
    On 2022-05-14 6:59 p.m., build wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:22:57 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 2:04 a.m., build wrote:
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:19:40 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you? >>>>> If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly suggest you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need help to get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.
    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a
    certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had
    made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening,
    and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the final >>>> stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff

    Here is the full conversation. QUOTE:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>>> yet again.
    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy leading up >>>>> to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    END QUOTE.

    There is no joke, nothing rhetorical. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...

    Reread the thread. He stated GR caused the red flag.
    Then when corrected he repeated his "joke".
    Nah, he was serious. Sadly.
    Good of you though.

    No, I don't think he was.

    He was playing off my statement that that "you make your own luck".
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat May 14 21:07:17 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:00:53 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    No, I don't think he was.

    there you go thinking again
    you numb cunt
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 15 17:05:47 2022
    On 15/05/2022 4:00 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 6:59 p.m., build wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:22:57 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 2:04 a.m., build wrote:
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:19:40 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a
    statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do you? >>>>>> If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly
    suggest you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and need >>>>>> help to get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.
    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a >>>>> certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had >>>>> made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening, >>>>> and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the
    final
    stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff

    Here is the full conversation. QUOTE:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck >>>>>>>> yet again.
    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy
    leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    END QUOTE.

    There is no joke, nothing rhetorical. Please stop embarrassing
    yourself.
    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...

    Reread the thread. He stated GR caused the red flag.
    Then when corrected he repeated his "joke".
    Nah, he was serious. Sadly.
    Good of you though.

    No, I don't think he was.

    He was playing off my statement that that "you make your own luck".


    For once Alan is right.

    How could anybody, however insane, think that RUS somehow caused the
    'red flag' incident (oops safety car, yes), and similarly imagine that
    my comment was anything other than a joke ?!!

    geoff
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 15 14:42:11 2022
    On 2022-05-14 10:05 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:00 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 6:59 p.m., build wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:22:57 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 2:04 a.m., build wrote:
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:19:40 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 10/05/2022 11:13 pm, build wrote:


    Yes I have heard of a rhetorical question but you made a
    statement. Your statement was not rhetorical.
    You don't believe anyone else reading this would believe you, do >>>>>>> you?
    If you do, then you are beyond help. If not then I strongly
    suggest you seek help. You do have a problem with reality and
    need help to get back to reality. I am very serious mate.
    build.
    I need help because in response to the assertion that "In racing to a >>>>>> certain extent, you make your own luck." I jokingly asked if RUS had >>>>>> made his own luck by having an influence on the safety car happening, >>>>>> and the team's (or HAM's - whatever) poor choice of tyres for the >>>>>> final
    stint ?

    Obviously RUS did benefit by his suggestion to stay out longer.

    geoff

    Here is the full conversation. QUOTE:
    On 9/05/2022 5:23 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 9:58 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good >>>>>>>>> luck
    yet again.
    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.
    He caused the red flag, or put himself on the tyre strategy
    leading up
    to the safety car (not impossible that he may have had some input in >>>>>>> that part at least) ?

    geoff

    There was no red flag during the race.
    Safety-car sorry.
    geoff
    END QUOTE.

    There is no joke, nothing rhetorical. Please stop embarrassing
    yourself.
    In hindsight, I can believe it was meant as a joke...

    Reread the thread. He stated GR caused the red flag.
    Then when corrected he repeated his "joke".
    Nah, he was serious. Sadly.
    Good of you though.

    No, I don't think he was.

    He was playing off my statement that that "you make your own luck".


    For once Alan is right.

    How could anybody, however insane,-a think that RUS somehow caused the
    'red flag' incident (oops safety car, yes), and similarly imagine that
    my comment was anything other than a joke ?!!

    Hey...

    ...with the ignorance so commonly on display in this group, I thought it
    was possible.
























    See... that was a joke.

    :-)
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 15 14:56:47 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:42:13 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Hey...

    ...with the ignorance so commonly on display in this group, I thought it
    was possible.
    See... that was a joke.

    hey cocksucker
    you're the joke
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed May 18 12:40:53 2022
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but
    he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    rCLYou sound like a bit of a genius when things like that happen but it
    was a total fluke,rCY was RussellrCOs candid opinion of his strategy call after the race .

    geoff
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue May 17 17:48:28 2022
    On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 6:41:03 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:
    rCLYou sound like a bit of a genius when things like that happen but it
    was a total fluke,rCY was RussellrCOs candid opinion of his strategy call after the race .
    fuck are you a desperate troll
    digging shit up from 8 days ago
    get a life you fucking loser
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  • From Phil Carmody@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed May 18 23:31:35 2022
    geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> writes:
    On 9/05/2022 4:20 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 7:52 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 9/05/2022 12:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-08 2:46 p.m., build wrote:
    Gotta be George.

    A mention to Valtteri, Esteban and Alex who, OK had a lot of luck but >>>>> he was there to take it. Good to see Alex finally doing well.


    Got to be Russell.

    Of course, for obvious reasons. Not to mention a 'little' good luck
    yet again.

    In racing to a certain extent, you make your own luck.

    rCLYou sound like a bit of a genius when things like that happen but it
    was a total fluke,rCY was RussellrCOs candid opinion of his strategy call after the race .

    He's just being modest because he's not into the nitty-gritty of the
    game theoretic principles that would justify his choice because it was
    the weakly dominant strategy. But it was a good choice whether he
    understands the game theory or not.

    Phil
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