• Bone shakers

    From bra@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu May 19 16:15:22 2022
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising
    As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as serious drawback.
    This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.
    Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a milkshake." At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
    People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.
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  • From bra@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu May 19 16:58:39 2022
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.


    Extended interview with Abbie Eaton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SWmInErmKg
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu May 19 16:59:05 2022
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 5:15:24 PM UTC-6, bra wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising

    As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as serious drawback.

    This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.

    Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a milkshake." At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.

    People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.
    Europe is always sucking hind tit when it comes to safety.
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  • From bra@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu May 19 17:22:23 2022
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 4:58:41 PM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.
    Extended interview with Abbie Eaton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SWmInErmKg


    The interview reports that an F4 driver on the day following Abbey's curb incident, had the SAME curb bump exactly, registering 50G on his car sensors, and he too suffered fractured vertebrae.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 20 06:20:22 2022
    On 2022-05-19 4:15 p.m., bra wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising

    As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as serious drawback.

    This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.

    Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a milkshake." At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.

    People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.

    I never scoffed at either of them.

    I cannot imagine how bad that is for the drivers. I know my 60-year-old
    body couldn't possibly stand it.
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 20 09:39:43 2022
    On 5/19/2022 7:15 PM, bra wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising

    As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as serious drawback.

    This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.

    Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a milkshake." At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack] from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.

    People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.


    Make the chassis, suspension and sidewalls stiff enough and the weak
    link is driver physiology.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 20 09:08:28 2022
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 7:20:24 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I never scoffed at either of them.

    It wasn't about you.
    You fucking moron.
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  • From a425couple@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1,rec.autos.sport. on Fri May 20 12:38:56 2022
    On 5/20/2022 6:20 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-19 4:15 p.m., bra wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising


    As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old
    pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as
    serious drawback.

    This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in
    their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.

    Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a
    Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like a
    milkshake."-a At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two
    vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack]
    from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.

    People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's complaints
    may now listen to a Ferrari driver.

    I never scoffed at either of them.

    I cannot imagine how bad that is for the drivers. I know my 60-year-old
    body couldn't possibly stand it.

    I believe it was probably Henry Manley writing fiction
    for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
    expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
    or surgical additions to handle the increasing
    forces of then 'modern' F1 cars. i.e. detaching
    retinas and separating kidneys...

    I know I never had felt such forces until I bought
    a modern light weight very high downforce car
    capable of cornering in excess of 3 G's. It gets brutal.
    Well, then my neurosurgeon wanted me to quit
    being a multi-G Bobble head. Tough choice, sell
    the exciting car, or revisit the stroke ward???
    Oh well - it was wild!
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  • From Mark Jackson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1,rec.autos.sport. on Fri May 20 19:10:23 2022
    On 5/20/2022 3:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 5/20/2022 6:20 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-19 4:15 p.m., bra wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising


    As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old
    pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as
    serious drawback.

    This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around in
    their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.

    Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a
    Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like
    a milkshake."-a At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two
    vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack]
    from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.

    People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's
    complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.

    I never scoffed at either of them.

    I cannot imagine how bad that is for the drivers. I know my
    60-year-old body couldn't possibly stand it.

    I believe it was probably Henry Manley

    Henry N. Manney III

    writing fiction
    for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
    expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
    or surgical additions to handle the increasing
    forces of then 'modern' F1 cars.-a i.e. detaching
    retinas and separating kidneys...

    I don't recall such, but if so it was probably one of the articles in
    the Cyclops saga.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
    likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
    - Peter G. Neumann
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1,rec.autos.sport. on Fri May 20 16:45:09 2022
    On 2022-05-20 4:10 p.m., Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 5/20/2022 3:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 5/20/2022 6:20 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-19 4:15 p.m., bra wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/may/19/formula-one-carlos-sainz-worried-health-drivers-bouncing-porpoising


    As I have posted before, we have entered a norm in which the old
    pleasing notion of 'becoming one with the car" is now exposed as
    serious drawback.

    This is quite different from latter day drivers who bounced around
    in their seats in inefficiently-sprung cars on rough tracks.

    Today's drivers are superbly strong and fit and healthy, but, as a
    Dakar winner once described modern rally driving, "Your body is like
    a milkshake."-a At the Austin track, a W Series driver suffered two
    vertebral compression fractures vertebrae [and they HEARD the crack]
    from simply running onto a sausage kerb and getting bounced.

    People who were primed to scoff at Hamilton's and Russell's
    complaints may now listen to a Ferrari driver.

    I never scoffed at either of them.

    I cannot imagine how bad that is for the drivers. I know my
    60-year-old body couldn't possibly stand it.

    I believe it was probably Henry Manley

    Henry N. Manney III

    writing fiction
    for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
    expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
    or surgical additions to handle the increasing
    forces of then 'modern' F1 cars.-a i.e. detaching
    retinas and separating kidneys...

    I don't recall such, but if so it was probably one of the articles in
    the Cyclops saga.


    I have a vague recollection of that article as well...
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 20 18:47:10 2022
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 5:45:12 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I have a vague recollection of that article as well...

    oh fucking goody for you
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri May 20 21:37:49 2022
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 5:45:12 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I have a vague recollection of that article as well...

    too busy trolling
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  • From bra@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue May 24 11:09:17 2022
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 4:10:27 PM UTC-7, Mark Jackson wrote:

    I believe it was probably Henry Manley
    Henry N. Manney III
    writing fiction
    for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
    expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
    or surgical additions to handle the increasing
    forces of then 'modern' F1 cars. i.e. detaching
    retinas and separating kidneys...
    I don't recall such, but if so it was probably one of the articles in
    the Cyclops saga.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
    likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
    - Peter G. Neumann

    Dragsters are now registering minus-7G retarding when their chutes open, and several dragster drivers have suffered retina detachment, and many experience momentary tunnel vision. .
    Years ago at the hard-braking Canadian GP, Martin Brundle described his tear ducts throwing fluid forwards onto the inside of his visor when he hit the brakes.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From keithr0@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun May 29 16:02:12 2022
    On 25/05/2022 4:09 am, bra wrote:
    On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 4:10:27 PM UTC-7, Mark Jackson wrote:

    I believe it was probably Henry Manley
    Henry N. Manney III
    writing fiction
    for Road and Track magazine back in the 1970's was
    expressing concerns of needing selective breeding
    or surgical additions to handle the increasing
    forces of then 'modern' F1 cars. i.e. detaching
    retinas and separating kidneys...
    I don't recall such, but if so it was probably one of the articles in
    the Cyclops saga.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
    likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
    - Peter G. Neumann

    Dragsters are now registering minus-7G retarding when their chutes open, and several dragster drivers have suffered retina detachment, and many experience momentary tunnel vision. .
    Years ago at the hard-braking Canadian GP, Martin Brundle described his tear ducts throwing fluid forwards onto the inside of his visor when he hit the brakes.


    I've experience 5G riding in the back seat of a jet trainer. That was
    vertical in respect to the body which is easier to take than similar horizontal forces, but under that acceleration, even raising a hand
    takes serious effort. The though of contending with such forces on a
    head encased in a relatively heavy helmet for 90 odd minutes fills me
    with respect for those able to do it.
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