Why not?Nothing can go wrong, though Inter are a decent team.
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) SalzburgBut not out of the question. Bayern have not looked good lately, Salzburg have some busy and quick attackers, I am predicting at least a draw. It is practically a derby match as well, I dunno, maybe Werner or Jesper or Bruce are there? Could be the last game of the UCL this season?
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 p.m. UTC-5, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:I want to say a terrible dive by Lewandowski, but I just cant say anything bad about the Polish ( it was a clear penal). Lewa converts 1-0. Lots of time left...
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.Nothing can go wrong, though Inter are a decent team.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.But not out of the question. Bayern have not looked good lately, Salzburg have some busy and quick attackers, I am predicting at least a draw. It is practically a derby match as well, I dunno, maybe Werner or Jesper or Bruce are there? Could be the last game of the UCL this season?
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:52:52 p.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:I cant blame Lewandowski for this penal. I think it should be considered outside the box, though initial contact may have been inside. I was OK with the run up to the kick on the first one, but I didnt like the stop -start on this one. Though not as bad as some he has taken. It dont matter none, he scored again and it is 3-0 after, like 20 minutes.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 p.m. UTC-5, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.Nothing can go wrong, though Inter are a decent team.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
I want to say a terrible dive by Lewandowski, but I just cant say anything bad about the Polish ( it was a clear penal). Lewa converts 1-0. Lots of time left...A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.But not out of the question. Bayern have not looked good lately, Salzburg have some busy and quick attackers, I am predicting at least a draw. It is practically a derby match as well, I dunno, maybe Werner or Jesper or Bruce are there? Could be the last game of the UCL this season?
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong?
Everything, starting with complacency.
I want to say a terrible dive by Lewandowski, but I just cant say
anything bad about the Polish ( it was a clear penal). Lewa
converts 1-0. Lots of time left...
On 2022-03-08, Al Kamista <alka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.Liverpool fielding the A team, so that doesn't seem to be the case.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:35:54 p.m. UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
On 2022-03-08, Al Kamista <alka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
I really like Arnold, a true natural skilled footballer. 0-0, but Liverpool in no harm, meanwhile Bayern 4-0.A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.Liverpool fielding the A team, so that doesn't seem to be the case.
Disappointed in Casino Salzburg, Bayern was there for the taking, they got too nervous and fouled Lewandowski too much.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:35:54 p.m. UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
On 2022-03-08, Al Kamista <alka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
I really like Arnold, a true natural skilled footballer. 0-0, but Liverpool in no harm, meanwhile Bayern 4-0.A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.Liverpool fielding the A team, so that doesn't seem to be the case.
Disappointed in Casino Salzburg, Bayern was there for the taking, they got too nervous and fouled Lewandowski too much.
Even the Limeys saying the Sanchez red card was harsh. Is Liverpool one of those Russian sponsored teams?
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 11:28:36 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
Even the Limeys saying the Sanchez red card was harsh. Is Liverpool one of those Russian sponsored teams?Even a die-hard ABI like me has to admit that it was no card.
I wouldn't mind Inter dragging it to extra time and penalties, only to go out in the most soul-crushing way possible.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 11:28:36 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
Even the Limeys saying the Sanchez red card was harsh. Is Liverpool one of those Russian sponsored teams?Even a die-hard ABI like me has to admit that it was no card.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:38:15 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 11:28:36 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
Even the Limeys saying the Sanchez red card was harsh. Is Liverpool one >of those Russian sponsored teams?Even a die-hard ABI like me has to admit that it was no card.
I'm trying to be as objective as possible here -
Sanchez did win the ball first, but if you're going to fly into a challenge >then the onus is on you to ensure that no one feels their studs on their leg >after the fact. A red it definitely was not, but as a yellow I think it was >the right call.
Maybe our resident referee HASM can weigh in?
In article <4234a9a1-f044-4816...@googlegroups.com>,
Al Kamista <alka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:38:15 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 11:28:36 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
Even the Limeys saying the Sanchez red card was harsh. Is Liverpool one >of those Russian sponsored teams?Even a die-hard ABI like me has to admit that it was no card.
I'm trying to be as objective as possible here -
Sanchez did win the ball first, but if you're going to fly into a challenge >then the onus is on you to ensure that no one feels their studs on their leg
after the fact. A red it definitely was not, but as a yellow I think it was >the right call.
Maybe our resident referee HASM can weigh in?ll Liverpool and BMunich more on.
ll Liverpool and BMunich more on.
Sanchez did win the ball first, but if you're going to fly into a
challenge then the onus is on you to ensure that no one feels their
studs on their leg after the fact.
Maybe our resident referee HASM can weigh in?
Al Kamista <alka...@hotmail.com> writes:
Sanchez did win the ball first, but if you're going to fly into a challenge then the onus is on you to ensure that no one feels theirThat's what I was taught multiple times in refresher meetings. Flying
studs on their leg after the fact.
Maybe our resident referee HASM can weigh in?
in, studs showing, can't control leg once in the air, all conditions are
met for it to be either a caution or ejection.
If you look at it as an isolated incident, without the context of when
it happened, it is hard to argue that this is not at least a caution.
I would think most people questioning the caution are doing so because
it is the second caution, resulting in an ejection.
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
Why not?Everything, starting with complacency.
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong?
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.
Today's fixtures
Man C (5-0) Sporting
I'm pretty sure City will advance here.
Real M (0-1) PSG
New evil vs. old evil.
PSG and Man U, maybe the only two teams in the world I would support
Real Madrid over.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.Today's fixtures
Man C (5-0) Sporting
I'm pretty sure City will advance here.
Real M (0-1) PSG
New evil vs. old evil.
PSG and Man U, maybe the only two teams in the world I would support Real Madrid over.
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.Today's fixtures
Man C (5-0) Sporting
I'm pretty sure City will advance here.
Real M (0-1) PSG
New evil vs. old evil.
PSG and Man U, maybe the only two teams in the world I would support Real Madrid over.Sp PSG with the most epic meltdown.
Up 1-0 (2-0 agg) from teh first and in total control, then.....
1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away, Benzema scores
2) Neymar gives the ball cheaply away for a counter, Benzema scores
30 Verratti gives it away cheaply on the subsequent kickoff, and then Marquinhos gives it away again after recovering it, Benzema scores
3-2 RM on aggregate, 9 min s to go.
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
PSG and Man U, maybe the only two teams in the world I would support Real Madrid over.
Sp PSG with the most epic meltdown.
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.Today's fixtures
Man C (5-0) Sporting
I'm pretty sure City will advance here.
Real M (0-1) PSG
New evil vs. old evil.
PSG and Man U, maybe the only two teams in the world I would support Real Madrid over.Sp PSG with the most epic meltdown.
Up 1-0 (2-0 agg) from teh first and in total control, then.....
1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away, Benzema scores
2) Neymar gives the ball cheaply away for a counter, Benzema scores
30 Verratti gives it away cheaply on the subsequent kickoff, and then Marquinhos gives it away again after recovering it, Benzema scores
3-2 RM on aggregate, 9 min s to go.This is all on Pochettino btw. Up 2-0 until minute 75 and he leaves Mbappe, Messi, Neymar all on. Neymar in particular has been woeful all game. No sense of game management. Shockingly naive coaching.
This is all on Pochettino btw. Up 2-0 until minute 75 and he leaves Mbappe, Messi, Neymar all on. Neymar in particular has been woeful all game. No sense of game management. Shockingly naive coaching.
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:Glenn Hoddle was the pundit on BT Sports and I liked his description of PSG's defensive howlers as "school boy errors but by school boys who've never played football before".
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.Today's fixtures
Man C (5-0) Sporting
I'm pretty sure City will advance here.
Real M (0-1) PSG
New evil vs. old evil.
PSG and Man U, maybe the only two teams in the world I would support Real Madrid over.Sp PSG with the most epic meltdown.
Up 1-0 (2-0 agg) from teh first and in total control, then.....
1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away, Benzema scores
2) Neymar gives the ball cheaply away for a counter, Benzema scores
30 Verratti gives it away cheaply on the subsequent kickoff, and then Marquinhos gives it away again after recovering it, Benzema scores
3-2 RM on aggregate, 9 min s to go.
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:Real Madrid over.
Why not?Today's fixtures
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? >Everything, starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.
Man C (5-0) Sporting
I'm pretty sure City will advance here.
Real M (0-1) PSG
New evil vs. old evil.
PSG and Man U, maybe the only two teams in the world I would support
Sp PSG with the most epic meltdown.
Up 1-0 (2-0 agg) from teh first and in total control, then.....
1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away, Benzema scores
2) Neymar gives the ball cheaply away for a counter, Benzema scores
30 Verratti gives it away cheaply on the subsequent kickoff, and then >Marquinhos gives it away again after recovering it, Benzema scores
3-2 RM on aggregate, 9 min s to go.
On 09/03/2022 21:41, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:Real Madrid over.
PSG and Man U, maybe the only two teams in the world I would support
Sp PSG with the most epic meltdown.
Isn't that what PSG do in the CL? <shrugs>
1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away,
Benzema scores
Al Kamista a exprim|- avec pr|-cision :On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:12:43 AM UTC+2, ixion martin - GdBx wrote with random precision:
1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away,With a big foul from Benzema.
Benzema scores
But it is Madrid so there is no foul.
In the other sens, the goal would have been disallowed.
Usual good refereeing for Spanish clubs.
Usual bad refereeing for French clubs.
Nothing new here.
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Ixion
Al Kamista a exprim|- avec pr|-cision :Ixion a exprim|- avec pr|-cision al|-atoire:
1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away,
Benzema scores
With a big foul from Benzema.rCo DrCOaccord, lrCOaxiomatique!
But it is Madrid so there is no foul.rCo DrCOaccord, le copain!
In the other sens, the goal would have been disallowed.
Usual good refereeing for Spanish clubs.rCo Not really, buddy! A French player badly stepped on BenzemarCOs foot. Yellow card, at least! NOT! Not even foul!!
Usual bad refereeing for French clubs.rCo It goes both ways. See above. Still, the Dutch referee was so bad, she should be excluded from international refereeing.
Nothing new here.rCo Everything is new rCo
--rCo Ion
Ixion
Subject: UCL 2022/23
Il giorno Tue 08 Mar 2022 08:29:34p, *Al Kamista* ha inviato su rec.sport.soccer il messaggio news:50b42095-c720-4701-914c- 3146e2...@googlegroups.com. Vediamo cosa ha scritto:
Subject: UCL 2022/23
2022/23 ?
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Il giorno Tue 08 Mar 2022 08:29:34p, *Al Kamista* ha inviato su rec.sport.soccer il messaggio news:50b42095-c720-4701-914c- 3146e2...@googlegroups.com. Vediamo cosa ha scritto:
Subject: UCL 2022/23
2022/23 ?
Al Kamista a exprim|- avec pr|-cision :Yes, it could have been a foul.
1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away,With a big foul from Benzema.
Benzema scores
Yes, it could have been a foul.1) Donnaruma has a brain fart and gives the ball away,With a big foul from Benzema.
Benzema scores
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:29:36 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
Why not?
LFC (2-0) Inter
A 2-0 lead on a European night at Anfield. What could go wrong? Everything, >starting with complacency.
Bayern (1-1) Salzburg
A Salzburg upset would be beyond epic.
Man U 0-1 (1-2 agg) Atletico
United are a shit team that deserved to go out but Atletico are a disgrace to >football.
Ajax 0-1 (2-3 agg) Benfica
538's SPI doesn't look too clever now. Or maybe Benfica is carrying a >yet-to-be-known new golden generation. We shall find out soon enough.
REmind who is in the Hat?TheyrCOve already drawn the quarterfinals in UCL 2022/21? Hmm! Methinks Liverpool advances easily. Arsenal got no chance whatsoever...
I will be watching Arsenal v Liverpool tomorrow!
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On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 1:44:42 AM UTC+2, The Doctor wrote:
REmind who is in the Hat?
I will be watching Arsenal v Liverpool tomorrow!
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TheyrCOve already drawn the quarterfinals in UCL 2022/21? Hmm! Methinks >Liverpool advances easily. Arsenal got no chance whatsoever...
I've noticed a severe lack of anti-weauxfing in this thread, and Juve are paying dearly for it.
Ciao,--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Werner
I've noticed a severe lack of anti-weauxfing in this thread, and Juve are paying dearly for it.
On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:Axiomatics:
I've noticed a severe lack of anti-weauxfing in this thread, and Juve are paying dearly for it.
It was pretty obvious that the match would have been decided on an isolated episode. Two sides terrified to put the foot on the accelerator until Rugani's foul. That's the direct consequence of the abolition of the Away Goal Rule. You get what you paid for.
Football sucks. The Champions League sucks.
On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 12:22:12 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:Axiomatics:
On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
I've noticed a severe lack of anti-weauxfing in this thread, and Juve are paying dearly for it.
It was pretty obvious that the match would have been decided on an isolated episode. Two sides terrified to put the foot on the accelerator until Rugani's foul. That's the direct consequence of the abolition of the Away Goal Rule. You get what you paid for.
Football sucks. The Champions League sucks.Axiomatics:
How rCybout reviving the oldest rule in European football competitions? rCLA third match on a neutral site.rCY
For example: 1 rCo 3 and 2 rCo 0; aggregate score 3 rCo 3. A third game followed on a neutral site (different country). More exciting! More football, huh? Third countries from the lower football tiers had the opportunity to witness higher-level football. Like Albania hosting the decisive third match between Liverpool and Inter.
Unfortunately, the governing bodies have crowded the schedules to inhumane levels.
rCLFootball sucks. The Champions League sucks.rCY
Long live European Super League (ESL)!
So in the hat are--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Villarreal
Chelsea
Benfica
Amadrid
Man C
Real M
BMunich
Liverpool
Possible draw
A Madrid vs Man C
B Munich vs Liverpool
3 Real Madrid vs Benfica
D Chelsea vs Villarreal
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On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:So the abolishment of an archaic and arbitrary rule, that would have given Juventus a random "lead" in the tie even though both teams had scored exactly the same number of goals, is to be rued because the game was unadventurous?
I've noticed a severe lack of anti-weauxfing in this thread, and Juve are paying dearly for it.
It was pretty obvious that the match would have been decided on an isolated episode. Two sides terrified to put the foot on the accelerator until Rugani's foul. That's the direct consequence of the abolition of the Away Goal Rule. You get what you paid for.
On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
I've noticed a severe lack of anti-weauxfing in this thread, and Juve are paying dearly for it.
It was pretty obvious that the match would have been decided on an isolated episode. Two sides terrified to put the foot on the accelerator until Rugani's foul. That's the direct consequence of the abolition of the Away Goal Rule.
Football sucks. The Champions League sucks.--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
So in the hat are
Villarreal
Chelsea
Benfica
Amadrid
Man C
Real M
BMunich
Liverpool
Possible draw
A Madrid vs Man C
B Munich vs Liverpool
Real Madrid vs Benfica
Chelsea vs Villarreal
On 2022-03-17 06:06, The Doctor wrote:
So in the hat are
Villarreal
Chelsea
Benfica
Amadrid
Man C
Real M
BMunich
Liverpool
Possible draw
A Madrid vs Man C
B Munich vs Liverpool
Real Madrid vs Benfica
Chelsea vs Villarreal
I would not mind seeing:
Liverpool - Benfica
Chelsea - Real Madrid
Man City - Bayern
Villareal - Atletico
or
Liverpool - Villareal
Chelsea - Bayern
Atletico - Benfica
Man City - Real
On 2022-03-16 16:22, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
I've noticed a severe lack of anti-weauxfing in this thread, and Juve are paying dearly for it.
It was pretty obvious that the match would have been decided on an isolated episode. Two sides terrified to put the foot on the accelerator until Rugani's foul.
That's the direct consequence of the abolition of the Away Goal Rule.
Interesting that none of the 8 fixtures went to extra time, though.
Let's see what the total is after today's matches.
But I don't see the logic of blaming this on the away goal rule.
Presumably the match would have been equally cautious , with Juve in particular taking no risks and hoping to score on the counter, and
Villareal only cranking up the intensity in the last quarter hour.
You get what you paid for.
Football sucks. The Champions League sucks.
This really had nothing to do with Juve being on the short end of the rule change. I have been consistently in favor AGR, even when Juve went out to Lyon and Porto in the past two CL seasons because of AGR.It was pretty obvious that the match would have been decided on an isolated episode. Two sides terrified to put the foot on the accelerator until Rugani's foul. That's the direct consequence of the abolition of the Away Goal Rule. You get what you paid for.So the abolishment of an archaic and arbitrary rule, that would have given Juventus a random "lead" in the tie even though both teams had scored exactly the same number of goals, is to be rued because the game was unadventurous?
<insert image of the world's smallest violin here>
:-)
Well there have already been a ton of matches played according to the new rules in the qualifiers,
and the percentage of ties that went to extra time has roughly doubled.
Is there any soul-searching among Juventinos about their SuperLeague credentials
when they now have been eliminated by, in turn, Ajax, Lyon, Porto, and Villarreal?
Somebody is playing games in this newsgroup. He/they add some 17 messages from another thread to this very thread. I post the following reply:
rCLHow da hell did these last 17 messages appear in this thread (UCL 2022/23 R16 2nd Legs [R])? Who did it and how da hell did they do it?rCY
My reply and the 17 extra posts will disappear soon thereafter! ItrCOs insane, pal! Or, is it the hand of UEFA because of my reference to ESL?
Axiomatics:How about this draw?
The quarterfinal round consists of 8 teams and 4 matches.
1) Total possibilities where the team order counts:
Arrangements (8, 4) = 8 * 7 * 6 * 5 = 1680 or
Combinations (8, 4) * Permutations (4) = 70 * 24 = 1680.
2) Total possibilities where the team order does not count (as if all 8 teams play on a neutral site):
Combinations (8, 4) * Arrangements (4, 2) = 70 * 12 = 840.
The 2020/21 UCL QF case was analyzed in this thread:
rCo https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/c7FuYQYcG4A/m/sOn95-YlBgAJ
rCo UCL Quarter Final draw
All 840 possibilities were generated.
I pit now England against Spain and the one-team countries against each other. The order of the drawing does not count. So rCo
Bayern rCo Benfica
ManCity rCo Villareal
Chelsea rCo Atletico
Liverpool rCo Real
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 1:09:43 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:Semifinals
Axiomatics:
The quarterfinal round consists of 8 teams and 4 matches.
1) Total possibilities where the team order counts:
Arrangements (8, 4) = 8 * 7 * 6 * 5 = 1680 or
Combinations (8, 4) * Permutations (4) = 70 * 24 = 1680.
2) Total possibilities where the team order does not count (as if all 8 teams play on a neutral site):
Combinations (8, 4) * Arrangements (4, 2) = 70 * 12 = 840.
The 2020/21 UCL QF case was analyzed in this thread:
rCo https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/c7FuYQYcG4A/m/sOn95-YlBgAJ
rCo UCL Quarter Final draw
All 840 possibilities were generated.
I pit now England against Spain and the one-team countries against each other. The order of the drawing does not count. So rCo
Bayern rCo BenficaHow about this draw?
ManCity rCo Villareal
Chelsea rCo Atletico
Liverpool rCo Real
Chelsea - Real Madrid
Manchester City - Atletico Madrid
Villarreal - Bayern M|+nchen
Benfica - Liverpool
It is the REAL one!
On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 10:24:54 AM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:I didn't say it did. You were complaining the game was unadventurous. But as MH said, it's debatable if it would be any different had the AGR been in effect. Alegri isn't exactly known for his free flowing attacking football. Was he defending a first leg "lead," Juventus would probably have been even cagier. And Villareal would have probably bode their time well into the second half before exposing themselves in search of a goal. It's a stretch to argue that the AGR would have made this game more exciting. There is no way to tell.
It was pretty obvious that the match would have been decided on an isolated episode. Two sides terrified to put the foot on the accelerator until Rugani's foul. That's the direct consequence of the abolition of the Away Goal Rule. You get what you paid for.So the abolishment of an archaic and arbitrary rule, that would have given Juventus a random "lead" in the tie even though both teams had scored exactly the same number of goals, is to be rued because the game was unadventurous?
<insert image of the world's smallest violin here>
:-)This really had nothing to do with Juve being on the short end of the rule change. I have been consistently in favor AGR, even when Juve went out to Lyon and Porto in the past two CL seasons because of AGR.
QuarterfinalsChelsea - Real Madrid
Manchester City - Atletico Madrid
Villarreal - Bayern M|+nchen
Benfica - Liverpool
It is the REAL one!Semifinals
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rCo Semifinal #1: Manchester City / Atletico Madrid vs. Chelsea / Real Madrid
rCo Semifinal #2: Benfica / Liverpool vs. Villarreal / Bayern M|+nchen.
Very difficult to pick Semifinal #1. For a degree of certainty of 55%:
rCo Real Madrid vs. Manchester City
The degree of certainty to pick Semifinal #2 is 90%:
rCo Liverpool vs. Bayern.
Quarterfinals dates
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1st leg: 5/6 April
2nd leg: 12/13 April
Semifinals dates
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1st leg: 26/27 April
2nd leg: 3/4 May
Final: 28 May (Stade de France, Saint Petersburg... er, Paris)
Semifinals
Chelsea - Real Madrid
Manchester City - Atletico Madrid
Villarreal - Bayern M|+nchen
Benfica - Liverpool
It is the REAL one!
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rCo Semifinal #1: Manchester City / Atletico Madrid vs. Chelsea / Real Madrid
rCo Semifinal #2: Benfica / Liverpool vs. Villarreal / Bayern M|+nchen.
Very difficult to pick Semifinal #1. For a degree of certainty of 55%:
rCo Real Madrid vs. Manchester City
The degree of certainty to pick Semifinal #2 is 90%:
rCo Liverpool vs. Bayern.
Quarterfinals dates
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1st leg: 5/6 April
2nd leg: 12/13 April
Semifinals dates
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1st leg: 26/27 April
2nd leg: 3/4 May
Final: 28 May (Stade de France, Saint Petersburg... er, Paris)
Quarterfinals
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1st leg
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5 April
rCo Manchester City rCo Atletico Madrid: 1 rCo 0
rCo Benfica rCo Liverpool: 1 rCo 3
Subpar games, total boredom.
6 April
rCo Chelsea rCo Real Madrid
rCo Villarreal rCo Bayern M|+nchen
2nd leg
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12 April
rCo Bayern M|+nchen rCo Villarreal
rCo Real Madrid rCo Chelsea
13 April
rCo Atletico Madrid rCo Manchester City
rCo Liverpool rCo Benfica
Chelsea - Real Madrid
Manchester City - Atletico Madrid
Villarreal - Bayern M|+nchen
Benfica - Liverpool
It is the REAL one!Semifinals
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rCo Semifinal #1: Manchester City / Atletico Madrid vs. Chelsea / Real Madrid
rCo Semifinal #2: Benfica / Liverpool vs. Villarreal / Bayern M|+nchen.
Very difficult to pick Semifinal #1. For a degree of certainty of 55%:
rCo Real Madrid vs. Manchester City
The degree of certainty to pick Semifinal #2 is 90%:
rCo Liverpool vs. Bayern.
Quarterfinals dates
-----------------------
1st leg: 5/6 April
2nd leg: 12/13 April
Semifinals dates
-----------------------
1st leg: 26/27 April
2nd leg: 3/4 May
Final: 28 May (Stade de France, Saint Petersburg... er, Paris)Quarterfinals
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1st leg
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5 April
rCo Manchester City rCo Atletico Madrid: 1 rCo 0
rCo Benfica rCo Liverpool: 1 rCo 3
Subpar games, total boredom.
2nd leg--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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12 April
rCo Bayern M|+nchen rCo Villarreal
rCo Real Madrid rCo Chelsea
13 April
rCo Atletico Madrid rCo Manchester City
rCo Liverpool rCo Benfica
6 April
rCo Chelsea rCo Real Madrid: 1 rCo 3
rCo Villarreal rCo Bayern M|+nchen: 1 rCo 0
The second act of sfartaie fared much better. The first match was quite exciting; the second match had a surprising result. Will the 2nd leg in Munich be another rCL7 rCo 1rCY type of blitzkrieg?
12 April
rCo Real Madrid rCo Chelsea: 2 rCo 3 (aggregate 5 rCo 4; Real advances
to semifinals)
rCo Bayern M|+nchen rCo Villarreal: 1 rCo 1 (aggregate 1 rCo 2;
Villarreal advances to semifinals).
Anthological night in UCL! Villareal succeeded in what appeared to be
the impossible against the blitzkrieg! Real Madrid rCo Chelsea was a
dramatic game, with another seemingly impossible turnaround.
Chelsea had a 3rCo 0 lead after that seemingly impossible to overcome 1
rCo 3 at home. Chelsea even had a 4 rCo 0 opportunity, but
rCLKokostirquerCY Courtois saved the day for the Galactics. Only after
that, Real Madrid started to play... football.
Too bad, matches like the two are sooo rare in football!
12 April13 April
rCo Real Madrid rCo Chelsea: 2 rCo 3 (aggregate 5 rCo 4; Real advances to semifinals)
rCo Bayern M|+nchen rCo Villarreal: 1 rCo 1 (aggregate 1 rCo 2; Villarreal advances to semifinals).
Anthological night in UCL! Villareal succeeded in what appeared to be the impossible against the blitzkrieg! Real Madrid rCo Chelsea was a dramatic game, with another seemingly impossible turnaround.
Chelsea had a 3rCo 0 lead after that seemingly impossible to overcome 1 rCo 3 at home. Chelsea even had a 4 rCo 0 opportunity, but rCLKokostirquerCY Courtois saved the day for the Galactics. Only after that, Real Madrid started to play... football.
Too bad, matches like the two are sooo rare in football!
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 9:31:45 AM UTC+3, Ion Saliu wrote:
12 April
rCo Real Madrid rCo Chelsea: 2 rCo 3 (aggregate 5 rCo 4; Real advances to semifinals)
rCo Bayern M|+nchen rCo Villarreal: 1 rCo 1 (aggregate 1 rCo 2; Villarreal advances to semifinals).
Anthological night in UCL! Villareal succeeded in what appeared to be the impossible against the blitzkrieg! Real Madrid rCo Chelsea was a dramatic game, with another seemingly impossible turnaround.
Chelsea had a 3rCo 0 lead after that seemingly impossible to overcome 1 rCo 3 at home. Chelsea even had a 4 rCo 0 opportunity, but rCLKokostirquerCY Courtois saved the day for the Galactics. Only after that, Real Madrid started to play... football.
Too bad, matches like the two are sooo rare in football!13 April
rCo Liverpool rCo Benfica: 3 rCo 3 (aggregate 6 rCo 4; Liverpool advances to semifinals)
rCo Atletico Mardid rCo Manchester City: 0 rCo 0 (aggregate 0 rCo 1; Manchester City advances to semifinals).
27 April--------------------------
rCo Liverpool rCo Villarreal
Semifinals rCo 2nd leg
3 May--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
rCo Villarreal rCo Liverpool
4 May
rCo Real Madrid rCo Manchester City
27 April---------------------------------
rCo Liverpool rCo Villarreal
Semifinals rCo 2nd leg
3 May--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
rCo Villarreal rCo Liverpool
4 May
rCo Real Madrid rCo Manchester City
Semifinals rCo 1st leg
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26 April
rCo Manchester City rCo Real Madrid: 4 rCo 3
rCo A match for the history books!
--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32Semifinals rCo 2nd leg---------------------------------
3 May
rCo Villarreal rCo Liverpool
4 May
rCo Real Madrid rCo Manchester City
Semifinals rCo 1st legSemifinals rCo 2nd leg
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26 April
rCo Manchester City rCo Real Madrid: 4 rCo 3
rCo A match for the history books!
27 April
rCo Liverpool rCo Villarreal: 2 rCo 0
4 May--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
rCo Real Madrid rCo Manchester City
Semifinals rCo 1st legSemifinals rCo 2nd leg
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26 April
rCo Manchester City rCo Real Madrid: 4 rCo 3
rCo A match for the history books!
27 April
rCo Liverpool rCo Villarreal: 2 rCo 0
3 May4 May
rCo Villarreal rCo Liverpool: 2 rCo 3 (aggregate: 2 rCo 5; Liverpool advances to the final)
Semifinals rCo 1st leg
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26 April
rCo Manchester City rCo Real Madrid: 4 rCo 3
rCo A match for the history books!
27 April
rCo Liverpool rCo Villarreal: 2 rCo 0
Semifinals rCo 2nd leg
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3 May
rCo Villarreal rCo Liverpool: 2 rCo 3 (aggregate: 2 rCo 5; Liverpool advances to the final)
4 May
rCo Real Madrid rCo Manchester City: 3 rCo 1, in overtime (aggregate: 6 rCo 5; Real Madrid advances to the final)
rCo The most memorably-axiomatic event in the club-team competitions
rCo In the 90th minute, Man City was 1 rCo 0 ahead and almost qualified in the final; Real scored in the 90th and 91st minutes to send the match to overtime
rCo Benzema, again, transformed the penalty and did the incredible... again!
FinalFinal
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28 May, Stade de France, Paris
rCo Liverpool rCo Real Madrid
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