• Liverpool - Real Madrid 2021/22 Champions League Final [R]

    From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 09:24:24 2022
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 10:04:50 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM

    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid. --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 10:38:12 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that.
    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much epitomise that.
    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.
    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much better than this?
    RM
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 11:06:42 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.
    RM
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 11:18:26 2022
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit chance to win.
    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson - Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz
    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 11:46:26 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson - Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
    Kickoff delayed 15 minutes due to difficulties getting people into the stadium. --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 11:48:02 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson - Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the warmup and that Keita might replace him.
    RM
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 12:00:04 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson - Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the warmup and that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on Liverpool fans outside the ground.
    RM
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 12:03:37 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson - Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the warmup and that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on Liverpool fans outside the ground.


    RM
    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the stadium without tickets.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 12:04:43 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 3:03:38 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson - Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the warmup and that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on Liverpool fans outside the ground.


    RM
    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the stadium without tickets.
    Limeys at it again, terrorizing the good people of Paris and destroying the historic buildings.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 19:08:35 2022
    On 2022-05-28, Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    On this day in CL history, 25 years ago:
    https://v.redd.it/0ahdv85266291
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:15:54 2022
    Apr|?s m|+re r|-flexion, Real Mardin a |-crit :
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a
    tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big
    games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit
    chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson -
    Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy -
    Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius
    Junior On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4,
    Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 -
    Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 -
    Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3
    - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and
    Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the
    Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of
    snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other
    reference, it looks like Real has been the better team
    for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet
    the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think
    I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football
    and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of
    big match atmosphere that only a European final between
    two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much
    epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics
    Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep
    pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you
    have to wonder whether that might give Real a self
    belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey -
    it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final -
    it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final
    canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse
    vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw
    after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the
    warmup and that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on
    Liverpool fans outside the ground.


    RM

    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the
    stadium without tickets.

    Poutine surely laughs.

    --
    Ixion
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 12:28:15 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:15:56 PM UTC+1, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    Apr|?s m|+re r|-flexion, Real Mardin a |-crit :
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a
    tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big
    games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit
    chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson -
    Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy -
    Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius
    Junior On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4,
    Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 -
    Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 -
    Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3
    - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and
    Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the
    Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of
    snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other
    reference, it looks like Real has been the better team
    for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet
    the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think
    I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football
    and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of
    big match atmosphere that only a European final between
    two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much
    epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics
    Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep
    pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you
    have to wonder whether that might give Real a self
    belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey -
    it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final -
    it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final
    canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse
    vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw
    after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the
    warmup and that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on
    Liverpool fans outside the ground.


    RM

    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the
    stadium without tickets.
    Poutine surely laughs.

    --
    Ixion
    Opening ceremony under way, inside the stadium football celebs hug and congratulate each other, outside the stadium riot police have apparently arrived.
    RM
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 12:37:35 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:15:56 PM UTC+1, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    Apr|?s m|+re r|-flexion, Real Mardin a |-crit :
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a
    tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big
    games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit
    chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson -
    Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy -
    Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius
    Junior On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4,
    Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 -
    Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 -
    Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3
    - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and
    Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the
    Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of
    snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other
    reference, it looks like Real has been the better team
    for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet
    the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think
    I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football
    and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of
    big match atmosphere that only a European final between
    two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much
    epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics
    Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep
    pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you
    have to wonder whether that might give Real a self
    belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey -
    it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final -
    it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final
    canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse >>>>> vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw
    after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the
    warmup and that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on
    Liverpool fans outside the ground.


    RM

    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the
    stadium without tickets.
    Poutine surely laughs.

    --
    Ixion
    Opening ceremony under way, inside the stadium football celebs hug and congratulate each other, outside the stadium riot police have apparently arrived.

    RM
    The match is finally under way.
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  • From Nicholas Wong@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 13:11:20 2022
    Real Madrid's passes must've been intercepted 50 times. What a bunch of numpties.
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 13:30:56 2022
    0-0 ht
    Real did nothing for 45 minutes, yet actually had the ball in the onion bag. Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming up.
    Maybe that mess up by Liverpood at the end wakes them up for the 2nd half.

    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 4:11:21 p.m. UTC-4, Nicholas Wong wrote:
    Real Madrid's passes must've been intercepted 50 times. What a bunch of numpties.
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 13:38:49 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 1:30:57 PM UTC-7, Binder Dundat wrote:
    0-0 ht
    Real did nothing for 45 minutes, yet actually had the ball in the onion bag. Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming up.
    Maybe that mess up by Liverpood at the end wakes them up for the 2nd half.

    Fixed match? Seemed like an awfully dicey VAR call for the 0-1.

    Mike
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 13:59:18 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 1:38:51 PM UTC-7, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 1:30:57 PM UTC-7, Binder Dundat wrote:
    0-0 ht
    Real did nothing for 45 minutes, yet actually had the ball in the onion bag. Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming up.
    Maybe that mess up by Liverpood at the end wakes them up for the 2nd half.
    Fixed match? Seemed like an awfully dicey VAR call for the 0-1.

    And I redouble this concern on the goal they actually GAVE for the 0-1.

    By the "obstructing ability to play the ball by line of vision", the goal they gave for the 0-1 was probably more offside than the one they took away!

    Should be a clear 0-2 already. Liverpool's back defense is shambolic.

    Mike
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  • From Nicholas Wong@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:00:30 2022
    On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 08:38:51 UTC+12, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Fixed match? Seemed like an awfully dicey VAR call for the 0-1.

    Still don't understand the call. Peter Walton "explained" it and it still makes no sense.
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:09:30 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:00:32 p.m. UTC-4, Nicholas Wong wrote:
    On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 08:38:51 UTC+12, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Fixed match? Seemed like an awfully dicey VAR call for the 0-1.
    Still don't understand the call. Peter Walton "explained" it and it still makes no sense.
    The keeper was ahead of the ball, so only one defender back, thus offside. The actual goal they gave may have been offside, but i assume VAR checked it and it wasn't
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:16:22 2022
    In article <da8b9e95-251f-4823-bcfc-5057b91232ffn@googlegroups.com>,
    Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1,
    Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3, Real >Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, >Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM

    Game start delayed by Loserfools!
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:16:53 2022
    In article <bd4ad526-3905-4c10-85de-ea41df984a52n@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, >Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3,
    Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1, >Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM

    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then the >Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it looks
    like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.

    So far so good.
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:17:48 2022
    In article <80c73e28-5976-4305-a743-76c477d46d8dn@googlegroups.com>,
    Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - Liverpool 1, >Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 3,
    Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool
    1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but then
    the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of
    defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it
    looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can answer that. >>
    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams
    who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that
    only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams >pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool
    should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost >miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give
    Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's
    Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much >better than this?

    RM

    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt
    possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game
    will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM

    RM 1 Loserpool 0 80'.
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:18:04 2022
    In article <c8ffb748-7fd3-4e9a-9db8-ff04ae62fc40n@googlegroups.com>,
    Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight low
    scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming back >actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson - Fabinho, J. >Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro, Kroos,
    Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote: >> > > > > It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real
    Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific
    in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but
    then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of >defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference, it >looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the
    house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can
    answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and teams >who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere that
    only a European final between two big teams can create, these two teams >pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics Liverpool >should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out these almost >miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that might give
    Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's
    Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much >better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt
    possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game
    will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM

    Kickoff delayed 15 minutes due to difficulties getting people into the stadium.



    Loserfools are the door.
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:18:28 2022
    In article <035f7064-3d6a-49c7-a8e7-ff50df9ce3adn@googlegroups.com>,
    Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight low >scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming back >actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson - Fabinho,
    J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro,
    Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote: >> > > > > On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real
    Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and Pacific
    in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers, but
    then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the jaws of >defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other reference,
    it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the
    house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can
    answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and
    teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere
    that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two
    teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics
    Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out
    these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that >might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's >Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much >better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt >possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game
    will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the warmup and
    that Keita might replace him.

    RM

    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on Liverpool
    fans outside the ground.


    RM



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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:18:50 2022
    In article <f7f6edbc-75b1-4c5e-846b-8b81a62b5670n@googlegroups.com>,
    Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight
    low scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming
    back actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson -
    Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro,
    Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote: >> > > > > > On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real
    Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - >Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and
    Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers,
    but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the
    jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other
    reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 >years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet the
    house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I can >answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and
    teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere
    that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two
    teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics
    Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out
    these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that >might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey - it's >Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get much >better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final canrCOt >possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes, the game
    will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the warmup and
    that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on Liverpool
    fans outside the ground.


    RM

    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the stadium
    without tickets.

    LEt them spend time in a Paris jail!
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:19:13 2022
    In article <8b4de91f-491e-44fc-9353-b374f4f44fdfn@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 3:03:38 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a tight
    low scoring match as so often happens in the big games. Alaba coming
    back actually means Real has a legit chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson -
    Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy - Casemiro,
    Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius Junior
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote: >> > > > > On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote: >> > > > > > On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 - >Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 - Real >Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 - Liverpool 1 >> > > > > > > >
    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3 - >Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and
    Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the Old-timers,
    but then the Oldtimers have this knack of snatching victory from the
    jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other
    reference, it looks like Real has been the better team for the past 7-8 >years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet
    the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think I
    can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football and >teams who've been in European finals, the kind of big match atmosphere
    that only a European final between two big teams can create, these two
    teams pretty much epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics >Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep pulling out
    these almost miracle level comebacks and you have to wonder whether that >might give Real a self belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey -
    it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final - it doesn't get
    much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final
    canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse vibes,
    the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the warmup and
    that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on Liverpool
    fans outside the ground.


    RM
    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the stadium >without tickets.
    Limeys at it again, terrorizing the good people of Paris and destroying
    the historic buildings.

    Loserfools not Limeys!
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:20:04 2022
    In article <5d857376-b0bc-4b41-9f2c-7f0e503e800dn@googlegroups.com>,
    Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:15:56 PM UTC+1, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    Apr|?s m|+re r|-flexion, Real Mardin a |-crit :
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a
    tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big
    games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit
    chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson -
    Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy -
    Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius
    Junior On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4,
    Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 -
    Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 -
    Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3
    - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and
    Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the
    Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of
    snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other
    reference, it looks like Real has been the better team
    for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet
    the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think
    I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football
    and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of
    big match atmosphere that only a European final between
    two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much
    epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics
    Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep
    pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you
    have to wonder whether that might give Real a self
    belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey -
    it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final -
    it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final
    canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse
    vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw
    after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the
    warmup and that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on
    Liverpool fans outside the ground.


    RM

    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the
    stadium without tickets.
    Poutine surely laughs.

    --
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    Opening ceremony under way, inside the stadium football celebs hug and >congratulate each other, outside the stadium riot police have apparently >arrived.

    RM

    And will be needed inside when the Loserfools go ballistic!
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:20:18 2022
    In article <8d51c923-d092-4ac9-a811-3abf509fdba0n@googlegroups.com>,
    Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:15:56 PM UTC+1, ixion martin - GdBx wrote: >> > Apr|?s m|+re r|-flexion, Real Mardin a |-crit :
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:00:07 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:48:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin
    wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    no surprises in the lineups. Yeah this probably ends in a
    tight low scoring match as so often happens in the big
    games. Alaba coming back actually means Real has a legit
    chance to win.

    Liverpool
    Alisson - Alexander-Arnold, Konat|-, van Dijk, Robertson -
    Fabinho, J. Henderson, Thiago - Salah, Man|-, Luis Diaz

    Real Madrid
    Courtois - Carvajal, Eder Militao, Alaba, F. Mendy -
    Casemiro, Kroos, Fede Valverde, Modric - Benzema, Vinicius
    Junior On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:06:43 p.m. UTC-4,
    Real Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+1, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 6:04:51 PM UTC+1, Binder
    Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 12:24:37 p.m. UTC-4, Real
    Mardin wrote:
    It's tonight 8pm GMT at the Stade de France in Paris.

    The story so far:

    1980 European Cup Final: Liverpool 1 - Real Madrid 0

    2008/09 Champions League Round of 16: Real Madrid 0 -
    Liverpool 1, Liverpool 4 - Real Madrid 0

    2014/15 Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool 0 -
    Real Madrid 3, Real Madrid 1 - Liverpool 0

    2017/18 Champions League Final: Real Madrid 3 -
    Liverpool 1

    2020/21 Champions League Quarter Final: Real Madrid 3
    - Liverpool 1, Liverpool 0 - Real Madrid 0


    RM
    Is this match bigger than the derby between Valour and
    Pacific in the CPL?

    Initial thought is Liverpud wins easily vs the
    Old-timers, but then the Oldtimers have this knack of
    snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Looking only at your posted results, with no other
    reference, it looks like Real has been the better team
    for the past 7-8 years.

    Iam gonna go with the logic of the past 8 years and bet
    the house on Madrid.
    Yeah, is it bigger than Valour v Pacific? I don't think
    I can answer that.

    What I do know is that when I think of European football
    and teams who've been in European finals, the kind of
    big match atmosphere that only a European final between
    two big teams can create, these two teams pretty much
    epitomise that.

    Agree with your analysis, in terms of talent and tactics
    Liverpool should have enough to win but Real Madrid keep
    pulling out these almost miracle level comebacks and you
    have to wonder whether that might give Real a self
    belief that gets them over the line.

    I'm not usually one to cheer for the big sides but hey -
    it's Liverpool v Real Madrid in the European Cup final -
    it doesn't get much better than this?

    RM
    The BBC sport correspondent keeps assuring us this final
    canrCOt possibly fall flat, IrCOm getting commentatorrCOs curse
    vibes, the game will now probably be a dull 0-0 draw
    after 120 minutes.

    RM
    TheyrCOre saying Thiago looked uncomfortable during the
    warmup and that Keita might replace him.

    RM
    BT Sport reporting the French police have used teargas on
    Liverpool fans outside the ground.


    RM

    Reports that some fans have tried to force their way into the
    stadium without tickets.
    Poutine surely laughs.

    --
    Ixion
    Opening ceremony under way, inside the stadium football celebs hug and >congratulate each other, outside the stadium riot police have apparently >arrived.

    RM

    The match is finally under way.

    30 minutes later!
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:20:57 2022
    In article <3a72889f-3351-42a2-bd28-58e89129295en@googlegroups.com>,
    Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 1:38:51 PM UTC-7, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 1:30:57 PM UTC-7, Binder Dundat wrote:
    0-0 ht
    Real did nothing for 45 minutes, yet actually had the ball in the
    onion bag. Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming
    up.
    Maybe that mess up by Liverpood at the end wakes them up for the 2nd half. >> Fixed match? Seemed like an awfully dicey VAR call for the 0-1.

    And I redouble this concern on the goal they actually GAVE for the 0-1.

    By the "obstructing ability to play the ball by line of vision", the
    goal they gave for the 0-1 was probably more offside than the one they
    took away!

    Should be a clear 0-2 already. Liverpool's back defense is shambolic.

    Mike

    Loserpool defnce really showed up.
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:21:01 2022
    On 2022-05-28, Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
    Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming up.

    They've done enough that Courtois is the clear MOM.
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:21:32 2022
    In article <e8d3f254-8232-4a17-8cef-c9c2bfd761d3n@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:00:32 p.m. UTC-4, Nicholas Wong wrote:
    On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 08:38:51 UTC+12, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Fixed match? Seemed like an awfully dicey VAR call for the 0-1.
    Still don't understand the call. Peter Walton "explained" it and it
    still makes no sense.
    The keeper was ahead of the ball, so only one defender back, thus
    offside. The actual goal they gave may have been offside, but i assume
    VAR checked it and it wasn't

    It did. And CBS is carrying this game North America wide.
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 21:22:05 2022
    In article <t6u3nt$2qos2$1@dont-email.me>,
    Jesper Lauridsen <uselastnamedotfirstname@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-28, Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
    Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming up.

    They've done enough that Courtois is the clear MOM.


    Indeed.

    Can Jonathan David put on past him?
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:29:07 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:22:07 p.m. UTC-4, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <t6u3nt$2qos2$1...@dont-email.me>,
    Jesper Lauridsen <uselastname...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-28, Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming up.

    They've done enough that Courtois is the clear MOM.

    I only recall him having to make a good save off of Mane, the rest were simple saves. Having said that, i dont know who you give the MOM.



    Indeed.

    Can Jonathan David put on past him?
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  • From anders t@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:33:40 2022
    But winning the Milk Cup and, especially, the FA cup isn|t too shabby.


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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:33:44 2022
    If Paris is not Burning, it will be soon.


    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:29:08 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:22:07 p.m. UTC-4, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <t6u3nt$2qos2$1...@dont-email.me>,
    Jesper Lauridsen <uselastname...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-28, Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming up.

    They've done enough that Courtois is the clear MOM.
    I only recall him having to make a good save off of Mane, the rest were simple saves. Having said that, i dont know who you give the MOM.

    Indeed.

    Can Jonathan David put on past him?
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:34:01 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:00:32 PM UTC-7, Nicholas Wong wrote:
    On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 08:38:51 UTC+12, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Fixed match? Seemed like an awfully dicey VAR call for the 0-1.
    Still don't understand the call. Peter Walton "explained" it and it still makes no sense.

    And then the championship-winning goal could've been called back far more easily.

    How ANYONE sanely could've thought Quadruple for this Liverpool side with that backline defending is beyond any sense of my comprehension.

    0-1 was quite flattering. 0-4 would've been more accurate!

    Mike
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:34:56 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:09:32 PM UTC-7, Binder Dundat wrote:

    The keeper was ahead of the ball, so only one defender back, thus offside. The actual goal they gave may have been offside, but i assume VAR checked it and it wasn't

    That's not the stink -- many people felt an effort to tackle the ball in the box by Liverpool was a deliberate play (which negates offside) vs. a deflection (which is not and what the VAR called).

    Mike
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:36:28 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:33:45 PM UTC-7, Binder Dundat wrote:
    If Paris is not Burning, it will be soon.

    Only if the incompetence going in is shown going out.

    The fact is, that match should've ended 0-3 or 0-4 to Real Madrid. Maybe a consolation there at the end for Liverpool.

    Mike
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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:43:25 2022
    The Doctor avait soumis l'idoe :

    LEt them spend time in a Paris jail!

    You have to kill someone to be jailed in France (or to wear a
    yallow jacket).

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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:43:27 2022
    Binder Dundat a omis l'idoe suivante :
    The actual goal they gave may have been offside

    it was.

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  • From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:48:13 2022
    On 28.5.2022. 23:29, Binder Dundat wrote:

    I only recall him having to make a good save off of Mane, the rest were simple saves. Having said that, i dont know who you give the MOM.

    Saving Salah's shot was superb.
    This is harsh on Liverpool as they were way better, but I won't
    complain, 5th CL for LM10.
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:49:02 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:43:28 PM UTC-7, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    Binder Dundat a |-mis l'id|-e suivante :
    The actual goal they gave may have been offside
    it was.
    At the very least, it was more offside than the one the VAR reversed. (You do not have to play the ball to commit an infraction. Obstruction of play in an offside position, even by blocking visual, is also an offside infraction.)
    I do believe the flag should've went up for it, even though the Real Madrid player DID make sure he did not play the ball.
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 14:51:52 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:48:18 PM UTC-7, vedran wrote:
    On 28.5.2022. 23:29, Binder Dundat wrote:

    I only recall him having to make a good save off of Mane, the rest were simple saves. Having said that, i dont know who you give the MOM.
    Saving Salah's shot was superb.
    This is harsh on Liverpool as they were way better, but I won't
    complain, 5th CL for LM10.

    Any "better" Liverpool was was negated by the inability to finish on their part and their shambolic back defense. 0-1 was flattering. A three or four goal loss was more realistic.

    Mike
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  • From anders t@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:58:31 2022
    I felt Liverpool was doomed having not been able to score during their
    lively opening and RM started to control the ball more often.


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  • From Nicholas Wong@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 15:16:25 2022
    On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 09:34:57 UTC+12, Michael Falkner wrote:
    That's not the stink -- many people felt an effort to tackle the ball in the box by Liverpool was a deliberate play (which negates offside) vs. a deflection (which is not and what the VAR called).

    Exactly. The ball went from Benzema, touched by a few Liverpool players then back to Benzema. No other Madrid player even touched the ball. Even if it was a "deflection", it was a "deflection" off a pass from Benzema to himself. How can you be offside passing to yourself?
    The VAR got this wrong for sure.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 15:44:02 2022
    Just said on BT Sport that UEFA have released a statement saying that the trouble before the game was caused by Liverpool fans who'd been sold fake tickets getting stuck at turnstiles.


    RM
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:34:51 2022
    In article <28559h5k1ifv68vb1skhub87rpf3lupipa@4ax.com>,
    anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    But winning the Milk Cup and, especially, the FA cup isn|t too shabby.



    But for Pool ...

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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:35:09 2022
    In article <c54d525b-b27d-4a54-850a-463255865507n@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
    If Paris is not Burning, it will be soon.


    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:29:08 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:22:07 p.m. UTC-4, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <t6u3nt$2qos2$1...@dont-email.me>,
    Jesper Lauridsen <uselastname...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-28, Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Liverpool not doing much either. 0-0 and penals bet coming up.

    They've done enough that Courtois is the clear MOM.
    I only recall him having to make a good save off of Mane, the rest
    were simple saves. Having said that, i dont know who you give the MOM.

    Indeed.

    Can Jonathan David put on past him?
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:35:35 2022
    In article <aa297865-fb26-43c3-a2aa-095b3ebd1ab8n@googlegroups.com>,
    Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:00:32 PM UTC-7, Nicholas Wong wrote:
    On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 08:38:51 UTC+12, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Fixed match? Seemed like an awfully dicey VAR call for the 0-1.
    Still don't understand the call. Peter Walton "explained" it and it
    still makes no sense.

    And then the championship-winning goal could've been called back far
    more easily.

    How ANYONE sanely could've thought Quadruple for this Liverpool side
    with that backline defending is beyond any sense of my comprehension.

    0-1 was quite flattering. 0-4 would've been more accurate!

    Mike

    Well , the referees are nautral.
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 23:36:31 2022
    In article <6292977c$0$22277$426a74cc@news.free.fr>,
    ixion martin - GdBx <pronosfrsf@free.fr> wrote:
    The Doctor avait soumis l'idoe :

    LEt them spend time in a Paris jail!

    You have to kill someone to be jailed in France (or to wear a
    yallow jacket).


    Ot Liverpool Red Shirt in this case.

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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 16:50:40 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 3:16:26 PM UTC-7, Nicholas Wong wrote:
    On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 09:34:57 UTC+12, Michael Falkner wrote:
    That's not the stink -- many people felt an effort to tackle the ball in the box by Liverpool was a deliberate play (which negates offside) vs. a deflection (which is not and what the VAR called).

    Exactly. The ball went from Benzema, touched by a few Liverpool players then back to Benzema. No other Madrid player even touched the ball. Even if it was a "deflection", it was a "deflection" off a pass from Benzema to himself. How can you be offside passing to yourself?

    The VAR got this wrong for sure.
    Absolutely, which makes me wonder if they let a better case for VAR reversal slide because they fucked up and it should've already been 0-1 for about 20 minutes...
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 16:51:04 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 3:44:03 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:
    Just said on BT Sport that UEFA have released a statement saying that the trouble before the game was caused by Liverpool fans who'd been sold fake tickets getting stuck at turnstiles.

    And that explains why the goal was not reversed.

    Mike
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat May 28 17:14:54 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:48:18 p.m. UTC-4, vedran wrote:
    On 28.5.2022. 23:29, Binder Dundat wrote:

    I only recall him having to make a good save off of Mane, the rest were simple saves. Having said that, i dont know who you give the MOM.
    Saving Salah's shot was superb.
    This is harsh on Liverpool as they were way better, but I won't
    complain, 5th CL for LM10.
    He did make MOM and everyone is raving about his game, so he must have done something, but I dont recall Salah's shot or the save. Then again, it was a game that really did not hold my attention, did not really care for either team or who won, so I probably missed a lot going outside to water plants or let dogs out or watch grass grow.
    But from what I did see, Liverpool just did not do enough to win it, then again neither did Real, what did they have, one shot all game?
    The really big news in football today is Werder with a strong signing of Nicky Stark. Werder now has fixed central defence for next season.
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  • From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun May 29 02:40:51 2022
    On 29.5.2022. 2:14, Binder Dundat wrote:

    He did make MOM and everyone is raving about his game, so he must have done something, but I dont recall Salah's shot or the save.


    https://twitter.com/UEFAcom_fr/status/1530700313178648577

    But from what I did see, Liverpool just did not do enough to win it, then again neither did Real, what did they have, one shot all game?

    I'd say that Liverpool did more than enough to get at least ET, but
    Courtois got in the way.
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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun May 29 14:03:14 2022
    The Doctor a coucho sur son ocran :
    In article <6292977c$0$22277$426a74cc@news.free.fr>,
    ixion martin - GdBx <pronosfrsf@free.fr> wrote:
    The Doctor avait soumis l'idoe :

    LEt them spend time in a Paris jail!

    You have to kill someone to be jailed in France (or to wear
    a yallow jacket).

    Ot Liverpool Red Shirt in this case.

    Tons of beer before the game... That explains that, I suppose.

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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun May 29 14:06:23 2022
    Nicholas Wong a utiliso son clavier pour ocrire :
    On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 09:34:57 UTC+12, Michael Falkner
    wrote:
    That's not the stink -- many people felt an effort to tackle
    the ball in the box by Liverpool was a deliberate play
    (which negates offside) vs. a deflection (which is not and
    what the VAR called).


    Exactly. The ball went from Benzema, touched by a few
    Liverpool players then back to Benzema. No other Madrid
    player even touched the ball. Even if it was a "deflection",
    it was a "deflection" off a pass from Benzema to himself. How
    can you be offside passing to yourself?

    The VAR got this wrong for sure.

    It is so complicated when you have this between Madrid and
    Liverpool. With Paris SG, it is quite simple...

    Real-Paris, this goal from Benzema is allowed.
    Liverpool-Paris, this same goal scored by Mbappo is disallowed.
    Easy !

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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun May 29 12:31:39 2022
    In article <62936102$0$24805$426a74cc@news.free.fr>,
    ixion martin - GdBx <pronosfrsf@free.fr> wrote:
    The Doctor a coucho sur son ocran :
    In article <6292977c$0$22277$426a74cc@news.free.fr>,
    ixion martin - GdBx <pronosfrsf@free.fr> wrote:
    The Doctor avait soumis l'idoe :

    LEt them spend time in a Paris jail!

    You have to kill someone to be jailed in France (or to wear
    a yallow jacket).

    Ot Liverpool Red Shirt in this case.

    Tons of beer before the game... That explains that, I suppose.

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  • From anders t@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun May 29 21:40:40 2022
    Rarely have we seen a more deserved UCL winner.

    PSG downed
    Chelsea downed
    Man City downed
    Liverpool downed


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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun May 29 22:59:19 2022
    In article <bti79ht2jark3e796roipiq1c2b7cpp9mv@4ax.com>,
    anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    Rarely have we seen a more deserved UCL winner.

    PSG downed
    Chelsea downed
    Man City downed
    Liverpool downed


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    Yes.
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  • From FF@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue May 31 13:08:39 2022
    Liverpool were very good, but not good enough to beat Courtois who produced a goalkeeping masterpiece.
    Then in the second half Real woke up. (I understand that's more or less how they've played all season.) They pounced once on a quick action and it was enough. (Again with the invaluable help of Courtois.)
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