• Europa League Draw

    From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 2 05:12:42 2020
    Group A
    AS Roma
    BSC Young Boys
    CFR Cluj
    PFC CSKA-Sofia
    Group B
    Arsenal FC
    SK Rapid Wien
    Molde FK
    Dundalk FC
    Group C
    Bayer Leverkusen
    SK Slavia Praha
    Hapoel Be'er-Sheva FC
    OGC Nice
    Group D
    SL Benfica
    Royal Standard de Li|?ge
    Rangers FC
    KKS Lech Pozna+a
    Group E
    PSV
    PAOK FC
    Granada CF
    Omonia AC
    Group F
    SSC Napoli
    Real Sociedad
    AZ
    HNK Rijeka
    Group G
    SC Braga
    Leicester City FC
    AEK FC
    FC Zorya Luhansk
    Group H
    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC
    Group I
    Villarreal CF
    Qaraba-f FK
    Maccabi Tel Aviv FC
    Sivasspor
    Group J
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    PFC Ludogorets Razgrad
    LASK
    Royal Antwerp FC
    Group K
    PFC CSKA Moskva
    GNK Dinamo Zagreb
    Feyenoord
    Wolfsberger AC
    Group L
    KAA Gent
    FK Crvena Zvezda
    TSG Hoffenheim
    FC Slovan Liberec
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 2 07:57:17 2020
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch. Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds, Celtic must
    have been hoping for something kinder than this. Possibly the strongest
    teams from each of pots 3 and 4 ?





    Group I

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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 2 08:55:23 2020
    On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch. Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds, Celtic must
    have been hoping for something kinder than this. Possibly the strongest teams from each of pots 3 and 4 ?


    Milan was in Pot 3? How the Sleazy Prostitutes have fallen...
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 2 13:28:44 2020
    On Friday, 2 October 2020 17:55:26 UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch. Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds, Celtic must
    have been hoping for something kinder than this. Possibly the strongest teams from each of pots 3 and 4 ?


    Milan was in Pot 3? How the Sleazy Prostitutes have fallen...

    Missing out (or renouncing) on Europe will do that for you. No CL either.
    The UEFA ranking rewards consistency above all.


    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 2 23:33:14 2020
    MH vient de nous annoncer :
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch. Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds,
    Celtic must have been hoping for something kinder than this.
    Possibly the strongest teams from each of pots 3 and 4 ?

    Certainly not from Pot 4. One of the two weakest with Nice.

    --
    Ixion
    En coupe d'Europe ou en solection, quand on dit
    diplomatiquement que l'arbitre
    n'otait pas dans un bon soir, c'est toujours la France ou le
    club frantais qui morfle.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 2 14:42:37 2020
    On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:12:45 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    AS Roma
    BSC Young Boys
    CFR Cluj
    PFC CSKA-Sofia
    Roma (but that messes up my Guess the Coach Sack) and Young Boys

    Group B

    Arsenal FC
    SK Rapid Wien
    Molde FK
    Dundalk FC
    Arsenal and Molde

    Group C

    Bayer Leverkusen
    SK Slavia Praha
    Hapoel Be'er-Sheva FC
    OGC Nice
    Pretenders and Slavia

    Group D

    SL Benfica
    Royal Standard de Li|?ge
    Rangers FC
    KKS Lech Pozna+a
    Benfica and Rangers

    Group E

    PSV
    PAOK FC
    Granada CF
    Omonia AC

    Granada and PSV

    Group F

    SSC Napoli
    Real Sociedad
    AZ
    HNK Rijeka
    Napoli and la Real

    Group G

    SC Braga
    Leicester City FC
    AEK FC
    FC Zorya Luhansk

    Leicester City and AEK
    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC
    Milan and Lille

    Group I

    Villarreal CF
    Qaraba-f FK
    Maccabi Tel Aviv FC
    Sivasspor
    Villarreal and Sivasspor

    Group J

    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    PFC Ludogorets Razgrad
    LASK
    Royal Antwerp FC
    Spurs and Ludogorets


    Group K

    PFC CSKA Moskva
    GNK Dinamo Zagreb
    Feyenoord
    Wolfsberger AC
    CSKA and Dinamo Zagreb

    Group L

    KAA Gent
    FK Crvena Zvezda
    TSG Hoffenheim
    FC Slovan Liberec
    Hoffenheim and Gent



    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Oct 3 01:21:04 2020
    Futbolmetrix avait soumis l'idoe :

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Milan and Lille

    Not any chance for Lille. I bet they will finish last.

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    Ixion
    En coupe d'Europe ou en solection, quand on dit
    diplomatiquement que l'arbitre
    n'otait pas dans un bon soir, c'est toujours la France ou le
    club frantais qui morfle.
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 2 16:55:28 2020
    On Friday, 2 October 2020 14:12:45 UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Overall, I like these groups very much.
    Group A

    AS Roma
    BSC Young Boys
    CFR Cluj
    PFC CSKA-Sofia
    Roma
    Cluj
    Group B

    Arsenal FC
    SK Rapid Wien
    Molde FK
    Dundalk FC
    Arsenal
    Rapid
    Group C

    Bayer Leverkusen
    SK Slavia Praha
    Hapoel Be'er-Sheva FC
    OGC Nice
    Slavia
    Leverkusen

    Group D

    SL Benfica
    Royal Standard de Li|?ge
    Rangers FC
    KKS Lech Pozna+a
    Benfica
    Rangers

    Group E

    PSV
    PAOK FC
    Granada CF
    Omonia AC
    Granada
    PSV
    Group F

    SSC Napoli
    Real Sociedad
    AZ
    HNK Rijeka
    Real Sociedad
    Napoli
    Group G

    SC Braga
    Leicester City FC
    AEK FC
    FC Zorya Luhansk
    Leicester
    AEK
    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC
    Sparta Praha
    Milan
    Group I

    Villarreal CF
    Qaraba-f FK
    Maccabi Tel Aviv FC
    Sivasspor
    Villarreal
    Maccabi Tel Aviv
    Group J

    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    PFC Ludogorets Razgrad
    LASK
    Royal Antwerp FC
    Tottenham
    LASK
    Group K

    PFC CSKA Moskva
    GNK Dinamo Zagreb
    Feyenoord
    Wolfsberger AC
    Feyenoord
    CSKA
    Group L

    KAA Gent
    FK Crvena Zvezda
    TSG Hoffenheim
    FC Slovan Liberec
    Hoffenheim
    Red Star
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Oct 3 01:13:11 2020
    In article <02278f92-d27e-48fb-9b13-a8a072564e07o@googlegroups.com>,
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    Group A

    AS Roma
    BSC Young Boys
    CFR Cluj
    PFC CSKA-Sofia


    Young Boys and Cruj


    Group B

    Arsenal FC
    SK Rapid Wien
    Molde FK
    Dundalk FC


    Arsenal and Vienna


    Group C

    Bayer Leverkusen
    SK Slavia Praha
    Hapoel Be'er-Sheva FC
    OGC Nice


    Prague and Nice


    Group D

    SL Benfica
    Royal Standard de Li|?ge
    Rangers FC
    KKS Lech Pozna+a


    Benfica and Liege


    Group E

    PSV
    PAOK FC
    Granada CF
    Omonia AC


    Eindhoven and Granada


    Group F

    SSC Napoli
    Real Sociedad
    AZ
    HNK Rijeka



    AZ and Sociedad

    Group G

    SC Braga
    Leicester City FC
    AEK FC
    FC Zorya Luhansk


    Leicester and Braga


    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC



    Prague and Lille

    Group I

    Villarreal CF
    Qaraba-f FK
    Maccabi Tel Aviv FC
    Sivasspor


    Villarreal and Tel Aviv


    Group J

    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    PFC Ludogorets Razgrad
    LASK
    Royal Antwerp FC


    Spurs and Antwerp


    Group K

    PFC CSKA Moskva
    GNK Dinamo Zagreb
    Feyenoord
    Wolfsberger AC


    Feyenoord and Zagreb


    Group L

    KAA Gent
    FK Crvena Zvezda
    TSG Hoffenheim
    FC Slovan Liberec



    Gent and Belgrade



    Ciao,
    Werner


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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 2 21:07:46 2020
    On 2020-10-02 15:33, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    MH vient de nous annoncer :
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch.a Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds, Celtic must
    have been hoping for something kinder than this. Possibly the
    strongest teams from each of pots 3 and 4 ?

    Certainly not from Pot 4. One of the two weakest with Nice.

    I thought Lille were OK last year, and they have made a decent enough
    start to this season, no ? (three wins, two draws). And they have young Canadian talent Jonathan David, to boot.

    I find it hard to believe even your natural pessimism about French teams
    in Europe could make you think Lille were worse than Dundalk, Rijeka,
    Luhanks, and Wolfsberger AC, for instance.
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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Oct 4 13:29:17 2020
    MH vient de nous annoncer :

    I find it hard to believe even your natural pessimism about
    French teams in Europe could make you think Lille were worse
    than Dundalk, Rijeka, Luhanks, and Wolfsberger AC, for
    instance.

    There is little bit exageration but check the results of Lille
    in European Cups, mostly in Europa League and you will see how
    this club considers it.

    If Lille plays versus Dundalk, I think Lille wins. But versus
    other three you cited, I don't systematically bet a win, above
    all if it's an away game for Lille.


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    de France sans jamais jouer a domicile.
    A jamais les premiers.
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  • From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 20:52:54 2020
    On 2.10.2020. 14:12, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Group K

    PFC CSKA Moskva
    GNK Dinamo Zagreb
    Feyenoord
    Wolfsberger AC

    I was thinking to reply here that Dinamo will surely be last
    in a group since Mamic is a coach... after 4 matches they haven't
    conceded a goal. In first 3 matches they only scored 1, today 3.
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  • From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 01:50:45 2020
    On 26.11.2020. 20:52, vedran wrote:

    I was thinking to reply here that Dinamo will surely be last
    in a group since Mamic is a coach... after 4 matches they haven't
    conceded a goal. In first 3 matches they only scored 1, today 3.

    Dinamo has 8 points now.

    Someone wrote that since the beginning of Europa League there were
    46 times when some team had 8 points after 4 matches, 45 times that
    team advanced to knockout stage (30 times from the first place, 15 from the
    2nd place), only Astana didn't make it 2 years ago.

    But it's Dinamo, anything can happen.
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 01:15:47 2020
    In article <rppih3$jgc$1@gioia.aioe.org>, vedran <nema@je.vise> wrote:
    On 26.11.2020. 20:52, vedran wrote:

    I was thinking to reply here that Dinamo will surely be last
    in a group since Mamic is a coach... after 4 matches they haven't
    conceded a goal. In first 3 matches they only scored 1, today 3.

    Dinamo has 8 points now.

    Someone wrote that since the beginning of Europa League there were
    46 times when some team had 8 points after 4 matches, 45 times that
    team advanced to knockout stage (30 times from the first place, 15 from the >2nd place), only Astana didn't make it 2 years ago.

    But it's Dinamo, anything can happen.

    Arsenal 4 wins, go 4 6 !
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  • From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Dec 4 00:13:41 2020
    Because of those terrible CL campaigns Dinamo was mocked and called "NK Primamo"
    which means "we are receiving" (goals, of course), it's strange to watch
    them
    still not conceding a goal.
    Second spring in Europe after 49 years of drought.

    Older Mamic is gloating and playing victim on FB https://www.facebook.com/ZdravkoMamic/posts/3366797436782953

    saying he is guilty for making a machine called Dinamo which hasn't
    conceded a goal yet,
    guilty for talking over his brother to sacrifice himself and manage
    Dinamo under unseen pressure,
    guilty that his brother showed what kind of greatness of a manager he
    is... and so on.
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Dec 3 17:09:39 2020
    On 2020-10-02 15:33, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    MH vient de nous annoncer :
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch.a Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds, Celtic must
    have been hoping for something kinder than this. Possibly the
    strongest teams from each of pots 3 and 4 ?

    Certainly not from Pot 4. One of the two weakest with Nice.

    Care to eat your words now ?


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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Dec 9 00:30:52 2020
    MH avait soumis l'idoe :
    On 2020-10-02 15:33, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    MH vient de nous annoncer :
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch.a Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds,
    Celtic must have been hoping for something kinder than
    this. Possibly the strongest teams from each of pots 3 and
    4 ?

    Certainly not from Pot 4. One of the two weakest with Nice.

    Care to eat your words now ?

    Eat my words ? What does that mean ?

    If you mean I was wrong, yes I was wrong. I didn't think that
    Lille was so strong and most of all I am very very surprised to
    see the club take Europa League seriously.

    If you check last european results of Lille, that is no more
    than a shame.

    Marseille, Rennes and Nice are ridiculous (the last one managed
    to lose versus Praha whose team had 8 missing players due to
    COVID), I can add Reims in preliminaries, eliminated with only
    one or two shoots on goal in two games.

    Even Paris, who finally will end first of its group, seems to
    be weaker than usually.

    Lille used to follow other French clubs in mediocrity. Not to
    be the engine.

    If you forecast the good position of Lille thanks to your
    knowledge of Lille, French clubs or football in general, so
    congratulations. But, to see Lille already qualified, maybe
    ending first of the groups, slamming Milan 0-3 is for me an
    unexpected and pleasant surprise, like a light in darkness...

    But I can't help imagining that this will end in last 32 facing
    a more modest team, something like 1-1 in away first leg and
    0-1 at home in last minutes of return leg because of a
    superiority complex... Then the players and the coach will say
    that it a blessing in disguise since they will then be able to
    concern themselves in championships... to come back to Europa
    League...

    Things do not change. Or so little.


    --
    Ixion
    Paris sort piteusement de la Coupe d'Europe.
    Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Frantais
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Dec 9 03:05:44 2020
    On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 12:30:54 AM UTC+1, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    MH avait soumis l'id|-e :
    On 2020-10-02 15:33, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    MH vient de nous annoncer :
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch. Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds,
    Celtic must have been hoping for something kinder than
    this. Possibly the strongest teams from each of pots 3 and
    4 ?

    Certainly not from Pot 4. One of the two weakest with Nice.

    Care to eat your words now ?
    Eat my words ? What does that mean ?

    If you mean I was wrong, yes I was wrong. I didn't think that
    Lille was so strong and most of all I am very very surprised to
    see the club take Europa League seriously.

    If you check last european results of Lille, that is no more
    than a shame.

    Marseille, Rennes and Nice are ridiculous (the last one managed
    to lose versus Praha whose team had 8 missing players due to
    COVID), I can add Reims in preliminaries, eliminated with only
    one or two shoots on goal in two games.

    Even Paris, who finally will end first of its group, seems to
    be weaker than usually.

    Lille used to follow other French clubs in mediocrity. Not to
    be the engine.

    If you forecast the good position of Lille thanks to your
    knowledge of Lille, French clubs or football in general, so
    congratulations. But, to see Lille already qualified, maybe
    ending first of the groups, slamming Milan 0-3 is for me an
    unexpected and pleasant surprise, like a light in darkness...

    But I can't help imagining that this will end in last 32 facing
    a more modest team, something like 1-1 in away first leg and
    0-1 at home in last minutes of return leg because of a
    superiority complex... Then the players and the coach will say
    that it a blessing in disguise since they will then be able to
    concern themselves in championships... to come back to Europa
    League...

    Things do not change. Or so little.
    Doesn't French club football have bigger problems at the moment than assigning blame
    as to which one has the worst results in Europe?
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Dec 9 22:03:23 2020
    Il se trouve que Werner Pichler a formulo :

    Doesn't French club football have bigger problems at the
    moment than assigning blame as to which one has the worst
    results in Europe?

    Really ?
    What do you think about ?

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    Ixion
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    Pas de doute, c'est bien un club Frantais
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Dec 9 13:11:50 2020
    On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:03:25 PM UTC+1, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    Il se trouve que Werner Pichler a formul|- :
    Doesn't French club football have bigger problems at the
    moment than assigning blame as to which one has the worst
    results in Europe?

    Really ?
    What do you think about ?
    Back when the broadcasters of the German (Kirch Group) and the Scottish (Setanta) leagues collapsed
    like it appears Mediapro does now, it had major repercussions on the finances of pretty much all clubs
    in those leagues.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Dec 9 14:14:44 2020
    On 2020-12-08 16:30, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    MH avait soumis l'idoe :
    On 2020-10-02 15:33, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    MH vient de nous annoncer :
    On 2020-10-02 06:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    Group H

    Celtic FC
    AC Sparta Praha
    AC Milan
    Lille OSC

    Ouch.a Having squeezed (just) into the pot of top seeds, Celtic must
    have been hoping for something kinder than this. Possibly the
    strongest teams from each of pots 3 and 4 ?

    Certainly not from Pot 4. One of the two weakest with Nice.

    Care to eat your words now ?

    Eat my words ? What does that mean ?

    Just an idiomatic English expression meaning take back what you say,
    admit you were wrong. Sometimes even actually eat the paper they are
    written on !

    If you mean I was wrong, yes I was wrong. I didn't think that Lille was
    so strong and most of all I am very very surprised to see the club take Europa League seriously.

    Could be because it offers a route to CL qualification now ?

    If you check last european results of Lille, that is no more than a shame.


    Even Paris, who finally will end first of its group, seems to be weaker
    than usually.

    Once you get past their undoubted world class stars (Neymar, Mbappe)
    they are pretty ordinary for a European power.

    Lille used to follow other French clubs in mediocrity. Not to be the
    engine.

    If you forecast the good position of Lille thanks to your knowledge of Lille, French clubs or football in general, so congratulations. But, to
    see Lille already qualified, maybe ending first of the groups, slamming Milan 0-3 is for me an unexpected and pleasant surprise, like a light in darkness...

    I am glad they are doing well. Always had a soft spot for Lille, and of course they now have Canadian content.

    But I can't help imagining that this will end in last 32 facing a more modest team, something like 1-1 in away first leg and 0-1 at home in
    last minutes of return leg because of a superiority complex...

    We will see. Depends on the draw but the Europa league is full of
    surprises.

    Then the
    players and the coach will say that it a blessing in disguise since they will then be able to concern themselves in championships... to come back
    to Europa League...

    Things do not change. Or so little.


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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Dec 9 22:18:14 2020
    Werner Pichler avait soumis l'idoe :
    On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 10:03:25 PM UTC+1, ixion
    martin - GdBx wrote:
    Il se trouve que Werner Pichler a formulo :
    Doesn't French club football have bigger problems at the
    moment than assigning blame as to which one has the worst
    results in Europe?

    Really ?
    What do you think about ?

    Back when the broadcasters of the German (Kirch Group) and
    the Scottish (Setanta) leagues collapsed like it appears
    Mediapro does now, it had major repercussions on the finances
    of pretty much all clubs in those leagues.

    Ah, that problem. You must be right.
    To be honest, I don't care French domestic championship any
    more so I have no idea what the matter is.


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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Dec 9 22:22:54 2020
    Apr*s m+re roflexion, MH a ocrit :
    On 2020-12-08 16:30, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:

    Eat my words ? What does that mean ?

    Just an idiomatic English expression meaning take back what
    you say, admit you were wrong. Sometimes even actually eat
    the paper they are written on !

    Ok, thanks.
    In French, to eat his words litterally mean do not articulate.
    :)


    If you mean I was wrong, yes I was wrong. I didn't think
    that Lille was so strong and most of all I am very very
    surprised to see the club take Europa League seriously.

    Could be because it offers a route to CL qualification now ?

    Really ? How ? You don't seriously mean winning the EL ? No
    Franch club already did it and no surely will do in my
    lifetime. I cannot imagine an French club, except PSG finishing
    3rd of his CL group and unexpectedly joining EL, imagining
    seriously it can win this Cup.

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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Dec 9 17:46:31 2020
    On 2020-12-09 14:22, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    Apr*s m+re roflexion, MH a ocrit :
    On 2020-12-08 16:30, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:

    Eat my words ? What does that mean ?

    Just an idiomatic English expression meaning take back what you say,
    admit you were wrong.a Sometimes even actually eat the paper they are
    written on !

    Ok, thanks.
    In French, to eat his words litterally mean do not articulate. :)


    If you mean I was wrong, yes I was wrong. I didn't think that Lille
    was so strong and most of all I am very very surprised to see the
    club take Europa League seriously.

    Could be because it offers a route to CL qualification now ?

    Really ? How ? You don't seriously mean winning the EL ? No Franch club already did it and no surely will do in my lifetime. I cannot imagine an French club, except PSG finishing 3rd of his CL group and unexpectedly joining EL, imagining seriously it can win this Cup.

    Well neither Sevilla nor Atletico are in it this year, so there is an
    opening for someone different. And anything can happen in a knock out competition.

    Past winners (since the group stage and the inclusion of 3rd place teams
    from the CL) have included CSKA Moscow, Shakhtar, Zenit St. Petersburg,
    and Porto, with losing finalists including Middlesborough, Rangers,
    Espanyol, Bremen, Fulham, Braga, Sporting, Dnipro and Marseille. Not
    exactly all teams that should strike terror into the hearts of a French
    club hovering near the top of Ligue 1.



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  • From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Dec 10 22:43:20 2020
    On 4.12.2020. 0:13, vedran wrote:
    Because of those terrible CL campaigns Dinamo was mocked and called "NK Primamo"
    which means "we are receiving" (goals, of course), it's strange to watch them
    still not conceding a goal.


    Of course it had to be one of ours to ruin it, Vlasic didn't come,
    so Bistrovic scored.

    Majer had Modric-like assist for 3-0.
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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Dec 15 02:10:06 2020
    MH a prosento l'ononco suivant :
    On 2020-12-09 14:22, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
    Apr*s m+re roflexion, MH a ocrit :
    On 2020-12-08 16:30, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:

    Eat my words ? What does that mean ?

    Just an idiomatic English expression meaning take back
    what you say, admit you were wrong.a Sometimes even
    actually eat the paper they are written on !

    Ok, thanks.
    In French, to eat his words litterally mean do not
    articulate. :)


    If you mean I was wrong, yes I was wrong. I didn't think
    that Lille was so strong and most of all I am very very
    surprised to see the club take Europa League seriously.

    Could be because it offers a route to CL qualification now
    ?

    Really ? How ? You don't seriously mean winning the EL ? No
    Franch club already did it and no surely will do in my
    lifetime. I cannot imagine an French club, except PSG
    finishing 3rd of his CL group and unexpectedly joining EL,
    imagining seriously it can win this Cup.

    Well neither Sevilla nor Atletico are in it this year, so
    there is an opening for someone different. And anything can
    happen in a knock out competition.

    Past winners (since the group stage and the inclusion of 3rd
    place teams from the CL) have included CSKA Moscow, Shakhtar,
    Zenit St. Petersburg, and Porto, with losing finalists
    including Middlesborough, Rangers, Espanyol, Bremen, Fulham,
    Braga, Sporting, Dnipro and Marseille. Not exactly all teams
    that should strike terror into the hearts of a French club
    hovering near the top of Ligue 1.

    Except PSG, I do not see any French team capable of winning
    versus Porto or Zenit the year it won this Cup. Some losing
    finalists are beatable, but they only are finalist... :). The
    CSKA of 2005 walked over the PSG who was second in Ligue 1 and
    I don't remember any French club beating the Shaktar.

    Except one club this year (Lille, who won only one point in CL
    last year and only 4 (draws) in EL the time before), the other
    team except PSG won SEVEN points in 18 matchs... They lost
    versus Krasnodar, Olympiakos, Slavia Praha, Beer-Sheva... How
    may I imagine one can win EL ?

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